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Oh, I never once presumed to think I was entirely alone, nor even the first, in thinking the way I do. Hence my earlier statement that I would have been utterly disappointed had no-one else had the same thoughts and reached the same conclusion. I was, admittedly, having a spot of fun with very emphatically not divulging my thoughts, as I figured a bit of 'extra mystery' could be entertaining for us all. A quaint attempt, at best, evidently.
First. You admit the possibility that no one has come to same conclusion. Why, if it's obvious?
Second. You didn't immediately say your version, calling it spoilers. Why can it be spoilers if such a version has already been suggested and it's obvious?

~Liz.
 

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In a sequentially ranked hierarchy based on level of critical importance, the disparity between us is to vast to quantify.
Maybe someday, you'll achieve your goals, get yourself a CostCo car or adopt a Labrador, but the reality is, I surpassed EVERYTHING YOU ARE EVER GOING TO DO... before I was a toddler! I was spitting out formulas while you were spitting up formula!
While you were suggesting your naive versions, like children in a school lesson, I simply used advanced mathematical analysis, beyond the capabilities of your meager mind, and identified the blackmailer. For me it was as easy as going to the toilet for you. And I won't share it with you because your little neanderthal brains will never understand my genius.
You know what the problem is with being the smartest person in the world? Everyone else seems stupid.

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Imma assume that's a copy pasta from one of the Sonic movies, and if so, it's a good little speech.
 

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I suppose, given the needless and quite frankly almost aggressive obsession here regarding my personal abstaining from divulging my thoughts, I shall give in to peer pressure 'for a change', if only to hopefully put an end to the badgering. I shall be hiding all of the 'relevant information' behind inline spoilers, so as to not accidentally ruin the fun of theorycrafting for anyone.

Suffice it to say, given all the evidence present as well as not present, the blackmailer cannot have established identity within the game just yet. She is, to put it simply, a hitherto unknown character. Having played through the game and thought at length about the variables at play, the only reasonable conclusion can be that the blackmailer is simply unknown. There were indeed a number of potential candidates that could have fulfilled one or even two of the three key criteria in the matter, but none that could reasonably fulfil all three: Means, motive and opportunity.

I shall remind everyone of the most important facts of the case, before I delve into my 'theories' regarding the suspects.
  • For starters, the blackmail began shortly after Ashe lost her virginity to Zoey. This could be a coincidence, but is nonetheless a relevant fact. At least for now.
    The number from which the messages were sent was an unknown one, indicating a level of meticulous forethought and caution.
  • The blackmailer in question knew not only where Ashe lived, but also where she worked, and evidently also had the number of her boss, Marita.
  • The blackmailer is bold enough to contact Ashe directly, albeit anonymously, through text messages, never resolving to any 'delayed' forms of communications such as letters or emails.
  • The culprit in question also has an entirely uncaring attitude towards duplos in general, as well as Ashe in particular.
  • Given the lack of demands beyond merely 'toying' with Ashe in a sexual and humiliating fashion, it indicates - though not necessarily to a point of absolute certainty - that the blackmailer is of a sadistic, cruel nature.
  • The blackmailer clearly also has the financial means to keep this manipulation going seemingly indefinitely, as not only does she have access to an extra phone or sim card to utilise for the blackmail, she also had the toy essentially hand-delivered to Ashe, rather than sent as a regular parcel. Additionally, she has the time required to dedicate herself to this matter at nearly any hour of the day.
Now, then. With the facts adequately established, let us begin with the first and perhaps most immediately suspicious potential candidate: The policewoman, Natasha. From a certain viewpoint, she could indeed arguably have had all three: Means, motive and opportunity. However, if one considers her more closely, one would undoubtedly reach the mundane but obvious conclusion of "Why and how would she?" She clearly has an unorthodox approach to 'law enforcement', but she does not seem like the kind of person to resort to blackmail of any sort. Pressuring someone, most assuredly, but in a twistedly 'righteous' fashion if such was to be her method. She also does not seem quite clever nor subtle enough to utilise this level of manipulation.

Next, one could indeed suspect Zoey, as she did have a very clear opportunity. But means and motive, arguably the more key criteria, are both utterly lacking. She would not benefit from this course of action in any reasonable - or even unreasonable - fashion, so it seems utterly unlikely that she would pursued blackmailing Ashe. Additionally, she would have needed to, for some reason, have had an extraneous phone or at least sim card on hand to send those anonymous text messages mere moments after having sex with Ashe. It simply seems wholly contrived that she would have had access to anything of the sort so shortly after their shared tryst.

The third candidate, Kate, could very much have had an opportunity to spy Ashe's peculiar anatomy shortly before entering her bedroom during the night of Ashe and Zoey's sexual escapade. But much like the aforementioned Zoey, she lacks motive. She does not strike me as an unintelligent woman, and the prospect that she would risk jeopardising her relationship with Evelynn over this is... well, that alone simply rules her out as a reasonable suspect.

Delilah, then. A girl obsessed with Ashe since childhood years, having spent a great deal of time near or with our beloved heroine. Surely she would have had ample amounts of opportunities? Indeed she would have. Additionally, she could very well be in possession of an extra phone or sim card with which to send those texts. In fact, she seems to even have a vague sense of motive, as well, given her obsession with the protagonist. But as has been pointed out, she is so obvious, in fact, that if it were her, it would be such a tremendous letdown as to sour the story as a whole. Furthermore, she is clearly overly protective of Ashe, and despite - or even because of - her obsession, her unrequited love and her apparent recklessness, she simply does not 'fit the profile' of a callous and cruel blackmailer.

Rachel and Evelynn are not even worth considering. Though they both knew about Ashe's particular sexual anatomy for years beforehand, neither one would go so utterly against their own character as to blackmail a member of their own family.

Fiona? No. Her loyalty to Ashe is so profound that I find the idea that she would be the blackmailer to be outright absurd.

Vanessa, perhaps? She certainly does seem to have the prerequisite callous and unattached nature, she is blatantly obviously a woman of extensive financial means, and though she lacks a clear motive, she could just be doing it to amuse herself for all we know. However, and this is entire a matter of interpretation rather than intuition, she seemed to have warmed up to Ashe after their first 'date'. With this in mind, it seems rather unlikely - to me, at least - that she would engage in blackmail not only during their second 'date', but even afterwards, as well. Additionally, she would have needed a third party to send the messages and control the buttplug vibrator, as she would most definitely have been unable to do either thing during aforementioned date.

Isabella and Cleo are both too unintelligent and disorganised to be able to orchestrate something this meticulate, so neither of them could reasonably be the culprit.

Lexi, whilst possessing a clearly far superior level of intelligence compared to the previously mentioned duo, has no means, motive nor opportunity of any clear kind. She is also quite clearly a very sweet and caring person; judging by the way she behaves with Ashe, I would say that aside from Rachel, Evelynn and Fiona, she is most definitely the least likely suspect of all.

Now, then. Lest my memory fails me, that would be all of the 'key' suspects. There are a number of other, thus far less prominent characters, such as Luna and Moira, but it seems wholly unlikely that the blackmailer should turn out to be any of them. I shall admit rather frankly that I never even considered any minor characters, as it would simply make for an unsatisfying or even aggravating 'plot twist' that any of them should have committed the act. Given the level of intricate writing of the game thus far, I very much doubt the author would make such a basic mistake as to assign a minor, unnoteworthy character to ostensibly be 'the main villain'.

Thus I have reached the singular reasonable conclusion that the blackmailer must simply be some thus far unknown party.


I should also like to point out that I did not bother all too much with any form of 'editing' of this ridiculous post of mine prior to sharing it, so as such, I apologise for the slightly disjointed and possibly tedious 'formatting' of it. Additionally, I had intended to keep this to myself until shortly before the next update would be released, not only to avoid 'spoilers' - such as they may be - but also to spare myself the effort of writing it all down 'in one go' as I have now done, and instead present it in a slightly more palatable format.

With all of that having been said, enjoy reading through my thoughts on the matter. If you can be bothered. Quite frankly, I rather suspect some are simply looking to instigate interpersonal conflict.

~Liz.
Solid theory and write up. Not new or revolutionary, but I don't think any of them are. Glad that you shared it.

I mostly agree with you, but personally I'm betting on Victoria. Had some good back and forths about it, starting about here with Ciaran8023 https://f95zone.to/threads/eruption-imminent-v0-5-1-morriganrae.160930/post-15328541

(Other relevant posts)
https://f95zone.to/threads/eruption-imminent-v0-5-1-morriganrae.160930/post-15214635 https://f95zone.to/threads/eruption-imminent-v0-5-1-morriganrae.160930/post-15231110

(first posted theory here) https://f95zone.to/threads/eruption-imminent-v0-5-1-morriganrae.160930/post-15193614
 
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First. You admit the possibility that no one has come to same conclusion. Why, if it's obvious?
Second. You didn't immediately say your version, calling it spoilers. Why can it be spoilers if such a version has already been suggested and it's obvious?

~Liz.
I must admit, I had not read through all of the available posts regarding this discussion prior to my initial statement. However, even if I had, surely you would not have expected me to simply point to a selection of said posts and say "These people have it right and here is the evidence to back up their claim", no? That would be no fun at all.

And I distinctly recall typing the word 'spoilers' with a set of apostrophes to indicate that the term was being used quite loosely. Although, I do suppose using actual quotation-marks could have brought that point across more effectively... but I am a fair bit 'set in my ways' with these things, I must admit.

Yeah, sorry you had to go through that. I tried to alleviate some of it with some levity, by blaming the banshee. It seemed to have worked, for a few minutes at least. I didn't see that you said anything that warranted a lot of what was said. Yes, I myself find people keeping thoughts like that to themselves to be annoying, but that's because my brain loves picking at puzzles. I've been that way since I was a kid. However, that isn't any reason for people to take this to a personal attack level. This is a forum for an adult game, please act like adults. Anyway, on to theory crafting.

I actually agree with your presenting of most of the facts, however the whole theory seems to lack one piece of information for me personally. How did Delilah find out, and why was she so cagey about it?

To me, that screams that the blackmailer is linked to her, which is why I personally suspect her other mother Victoria, although some have mentioned it could be her boss. The other one that made some sense was that she had hacked Ashe's phone, just like the blackmailer, and had seen the information that way. Personally, that falls flat, but I would be happy to be proven wrong. Honestly, the only thing I think most of us (key word MOST) can agree on is that Delilah is so obviously the answer that she is TOO obviously the answer. Anyway, just my two cents.
People resorting to namecalling, insults and other hostile behaviour are hardly worth acknowledging beyond the act of notifying the site moderators about the matter. "Sticks and stones", as the rather silly saying goes. Though I can certainly agree that people withholding information do tend to pique one's curiosity, occasionally even to an aggravating degree; quite frankly, that was even more or less entirely my intention, so as to stimulate further discussion. It is rare one gets to see so vivid of a conversation regarding these kinds of games, rarer still that the conversations be warranted.

As for Delilah finding out, well, she as I stated in my earlier post, she could have known this since a while ago. Obsessive people often turn quite resourceful in finding out anything, everything and all inbetween regarding the objects of their respective obsessions.

Nevertheless, I disagree with your theory for it being Victoria, but admittedly largely based on what we may as well call 'a hunch', as it were. She is out of town when the blackmail begins, which begs the first of a series of questions: "Why then?" The second question that arises is "What would be her motive?" Ashe has indeed had the option to sneak a peek at Kate before that moment, but that is hardly a given, and if that variable is removed, then what motive could remain? Even so, I find it impossible to believe that Kate would have divulged this fact to her wife. The third question would be "How would she have time for all of this?" It is mentioned that Victoria is on a business trip; I can assure just about everyone here that such trips never leave much time for leisure, least of all sufficient such that orchestrating a moderately elaborate blackmail plot is at all possible.

Of course, I could be wrong about any of the suspects thus far, but I do tend to stay within the realms of reason in these things. As I see it, Victoria is simply not a reasonable candidate for masterminding the whole affair.

Solid theory and write up. Not new or revolutionary, but I don't think any of them are. Glad that you shared it.

I mostly agree with you, but personally I'm betting on Victoria. Had some good back and forths about it, starting about here with Ciaran8023 https://f95zone.to/threads/eruption-imminent-v0-5-1-morriganrae.160930/post-15328541

(Other relevant posts)
https://f95zone.to/threads/eruption-imminent-v0-5-1-morriganrae.160930/post-15214635 https://f95zone.to/threads/eruption-imminent-v0-5-1-morriganrae.160930/post-15231110

(first posted theory here) https://f95zone.to/threads/eruption-imminent-v0-5-1-morriganrae.160930/post-15193614
I do hate to seem lazy, but if you have read through my most recent posts in this thread, then I am sure you will understand me being a fair bit 'forumed out' at this point. Quite frankly, given that my partner mostly maintains our presence on this forum, this is by far the most activity and effort I have ever invested into this particular site. As such, I shall humbly ask that you refer to my above statement regarding your assertion that Victoria is the villain in this. However, I must admit I have not yet read your linked posts; I shall be doing so shortly. Perhaps you may have formed some theory that I had not considered. The very possibility of that is quite thrilling, I must admit.

Addendum: In regards to your theory in itself, hm... Whilst it is not unfounded, as I see it, it does seem rather farfetched and simply not very 'likely', if you will excuse the vagueness of my expression. Blackmail is a particularly sinister form of crime, after all, and typically takes an even more cruel and sadistic mindset than just about any other non-violent transgressions. We have not had any useful amounts of information regarding Victoria in the game thus far, so for all we know, she could indeed be a hateful, spiteful, cruel and uncaring wretch of a woman. But a lot of questions are left unanswered overall regarding her, so any greater assumptions are largely moot, I feel.

~Liz.
 
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Addendum: In regards to your theory in itself, hm... Whilst it is not unfounded, as I see it, it does seem rather farfetched and simply not very 'likely', if you will excuse the vagueness of my expression. Blackmail is a particularly sinister form of crime, after all, and typically takes an even more cruel and sadistic mindset than just about any other non-violent transgressions. We have not had any useful amounts of information regarding Victoria in the game thus far, so for all we know, she could indeed be a hateful, spiteful, cruel and uncaring wretch of a woman. But a lot of questions are left unanswered overall regarding her, so any greater assumptions are largely moot, I feel.

~Liz.
As BaDikGirl and others have pointed out, this doesn't seem to be ordinary blackmail. It seems to be almost pedagogical, but sexual, pushing Ashe's boundaries and sexuality, but without actually being malevolent. It's a weird balance. And I basically came to the theory by reaching the end point of yours, no one we've seen is a good candidate. All signs point to Delilah, which does make her being a Red Herring likely, but it also doesn't explain all the guilty traits she has been showing. But it would track if someone had convinced her. Who could convince her to do anything against Ashe? Only someone she loved and trusted. If we rule out Kate and Fiona, the only likely person is Victoria at that point. It could be someone we've never seen or heard of, but that's pretty lame, so since it seems unlikely to be any obvious person we've seen, and also would be kinda poor writing to be someone we've never even heard of, someone we've heard of but not seen becomes a real possibility.

It's more of a rule out everyone and see who is left, rather than positive evidence towards one individual, but V has those opportunities no one else has, and the timing as well. It answers the 'How did they know?' and 'Why now?' parts of the mystery, and I don't see a random having better versions of that than Victoria.

But I do admit, it could be thin. You'd never get it into court if you were prosecuting without more evidence. But the circumstantials might get you a warrant, if it were that type of situation. In my view.
 

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Oh my god, I wish it were possible to lock this thread until the new version comes out. We've got 5 more months of this????
I agree just pointless yapping for the sake of it, by far the most annoying thread out of all the games I follow on this site.
 
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Hey everyone
I've been diligently working on render preparations . Here's the numbers so far:
  • Writing: 100%
  • Coding: 90%
  • Environments: 50%
  • New Characters: 7/7
  • Background Characters: 6/40
  • Renders: 0%
    • Part 1 (9:00pm): 0/720
    • Part 2 (10:00pm): 0/360
    • Part 3 (11:00pm): 0/550
    • Part 4 (12:30am): 0/750
    • Part 5 (2:00am): 0/500
    • Part 6 (3:00am): 0/600
  • Music/Sound: 0%
  • Testing/Polish: 0%
Release date estimate: June/July 2025
I've finished all the new character models for the interesting ladies you'll get to know . I've also spent a lot of time working on the more technical challenges of creating scenes with a ton of background characters. I'm very happy with the results so far. I managed to create some test renders with 4 main characters in the foreground and 40 (!) background characters, without stretching the render times too much. I still need to fiddle a little bit more with the downscaling of these background characters, but I'm super relieved that what I had in mind for this party is at least possible.
Some difficulties will likely only arise after I start making the actual renders, so I won't delay too much longer and start with that as soon as possible. But before I do that, I first need to finish the main area of the house environment. I'll leave some of the more secluded spots (whatever could happen there I wonder ) for later when I actually get to the renders there. Same thing for the background characters. At the beginning of the party, there's not that many people there yet, so I won't need all the models to start out.
If everything goes according to plan, I'll start doing renders next week .
There will also be a poll for Silver/Gold members up soon. I'll let you decide on an outfit for a returning character (Who might that be?) .
❤ Enjoy your weekend! Thank you for your support! ❤
 

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I hope the developer will do more previews than usual or at least ones that show more. Because the wait is a bit too long now and it's getting concerning that updates are starting to take more and more time
 

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Hey everyone
I've been diligently working on render preparations . Here's the numbers so far:
  • Writing: 100%
  • Coding: 90%
  • Environments: 50%
  • New Characters: 7/7
  • Background Characters: 6/40
  • Renders: 0%
    • Part 1 (9:00pm): 0/720
    • Part 2 (10:00pm): 0/360
    • Part 3 (11:00pm): 0/550
    • Part 4 (12:30am): 0/750
    • Part 5 (2:00am): 0/500
    • Part 6 (3:00am): 0/600
  • Music/Sound: 0%
  • Testing/Polish: 0%
Release date estimate: June/July 2025
I've finished all the new character models for the interesting ladies you'll get to know . I've also spent a lot of time working on the more technical challenges of creating scenes with a ton of background characters. I'm very happy with the results so far. I managed to create some test renders with 4 main characters in the foreground and 40 (!) background characters, without stretching the render times too much. I still need to fiddle a little bit more with the downscaling of these background characters, but I'm super relieved that what I had in mind for this party is at least possible.
Some difficulties will likely only arise after I start making the actual renders, so I won't delay too much longer and start with that as soon as possible. But before I do that, I first need to finish the main area of the house environment. I'll leave some of the more secluded spots (whatever could happen there I wonder ) for later when I actually get to the renders there. Same thing for the background characters. At the beginning of the party, there's not that many people there yet, so I won't need all the models to start out.
If everything goes according to plan, I'll start doing renders next week .
There will also be a poll for Silver/Gold members up soon. I'll let you decide on an outfit for a returning character (Who might that be?) .
❤ Enjoy your weekend! Thank you for your support! ❤
0% renders...:sleep::sleep::sleep:
 

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Ok, quick question maybe someone can help with. There's a song that plays that I would like to know the name of the artist, so I can look it up elsewhere. It plays twice, in two different versions. The first time is when Vanessa helps Ashe get ready for dinner with Moira, and the second is when Vanessa and Ashe are making out by the pool. The first time is just instrumental, but the second one has lyrics. In the jukebox mod the first song is called "Out Of My Mind" (track 61), but I can't find who the artist is, and I would love to find the lyric version. Can anyone help?
Out of my mind - by FASSounds on Spotify

there is also another song which plays during Fiona scene...and it's also by the same artist

Until the Stars Aligned - by FASSounds
 
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