Vl4

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OOOOOOkaaaaaay...
I'm gonna be honest sports fans, that Ending was...jebus...

Sorry, I don't care WHAT kind of Deep-Seeded Tomfuckery Past you have had with a Duplo, that doesn't give you the right to treat them all the same way. That's the EXACT thing I'm getting from Vanessa. You know she took her Outburst too far when even Isabella is the Voice of Reason.

That is of course, assuming she isn't just Blatantly Sexist. Again, I'm assuming something happened with her Mom or...in the Past somewhere? Maybe Jessica (Her Bimbo Stepmom) is a Duplo? Annnnd that's why she holds such a Visceral Grude against them? After all, we learn Jessica was basically her Mom's Sidehoe while the other Mom was dying of Cancer, maybe she fed into the Rumors about them being Sex Demons?

Anyways, regardless, I HATE that Excuse, Mentality, whatever the FUCK you want to pretend it is or isn't. NOTHING gives you the Right to Objectify an entire Sex, Race, or whatever, Solely based on a Bad Experience from the Few. ESPECIALLY considering how nice Ashe has been with Vanessa, and how Manipulative or Cold she's been with her, let alone everyone around her, if we're being honest.

For me, I was Hung up on Deciding between Rachael or Vanessa (or trying to get with Both), but now, after this Ending, there is literally NO EXCUSE for her to not only Objectify Ashe, but to also PUBLICLY SHAME her by telling her off. This RUINED her Character, plain and simple. Of all People to go against the Usual Grain with a Topic THIS Heavy, KNOWING that in the News, Duplos are Vilified and Death Threatened to the point of SUICIDE, I would've Expected Vanessa, of all people to be the one that wouldn't care, or would scoff at that kind of Behavior. But no, she's not. She's honestly just Disgusting now, I hate her.

If Morrigan manages to Write an Actually Compelling Redemption Arc, I'll be Baffled. Cause these kinds of People are the Most Irredeemably Sickening Kind to me.

That all being said, I ended the Night pretty hammered, I think 70% or so? I can't remember, but I wanted to have an Even Balance. It was a Fantastic Update for how 'Short' it was (In the Sense of it only Lasting One Night I mean).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the party is at Vanessa's house. She has the right to decide who can and cannot be on her property, regardless of the reason and without having to provide an explanation.

Since this is a visual novel, there are obviously reasons for this. The author will certainly explain them in future updates. However, you've already dismissed these reasons, whatever they may be (though, I repeat, they don't even have to exist).

You saw three phrases and decided that was enough to use harsh words and be as judgmental as possible. You also felt compelled to make it public and express your opinion to others, giving the situation far more weight than it probably warranted. By reacting so hastily and without compromise, you are no better than the people/characters you are trying to criticize.
 

netcov

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wait what scene are we talking about here? are you talking about when she was in the cinema basement talking to oriana?
Yea.
The whole gist of the scene was Vanessa trying to recruit Oriana to do something at her workplace (Oriana divulging she works for Vanessa's mom and that particular activity could cost her personal career if caught).
Vanessa closing her rationale with everything will work out because her mother will be pushed to make a decision which will prevent Oriana coming to harm (career-wise)
 

AndL78

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A little about the update.
On the plus side: the quality is good. The number of renders is also high. No complaints about it being all about one party.
All 3 branches are well-developed and have their own content - that's also very cool!

Cons: The plot development suffered greatly because the in-game events take place within a single evening and there are many events with "unnecessary" characters. Many supporting characters received more key scenes than the main ones. (In the future, involving the main characters in these scenes will only improve things.)

What's good, but a little "crooked"
Many scenes only unlock after 4-5 CORRECT answers. It would be fine if these 5 choices were consecutive, but to try to unlock a different scene, you have to start from the very beginning of the update. And that's not the worst thing; in some moments, it's just unclear whether there's another possible outcome.
For example, I did a threesome scene with Cleo and Talia and didn't discover all the options. How do I know there are more variations? I learned about other scenes here.
Regarding X's tasks, it says there will be 4 tasks, and I've completed 3. How do I get the 4th? Apparently, there's no way, because she lost her phone. BUT, maybe the developer has a path where you have to make 5-10-15 uniquely correct choices to get the 4th task?


Therefore, I propose making the achievement of scenes less "difficult" or adding hints when choosing that a particular choice is required to open a unique scene (within such answers, the scene will not trigger).

Overall, I liked the update! Thanks to the developer for the great work, and I wish the project continued growth!
 
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daddymeneer

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at the end of the day... its not that deep. people that play these vns and leave comments are just typing out their thoughts and opinions. you may not like what one person has to say but that's just the way life goes.


tough grass :)
 

Chillout1984

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By the way, I remembered one more detail.
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Or:

It's Vanessa and she's just mad that she cannot really blackmail Ashe anymore as Ms. X because so many people now know about it and it's very possible the video is going to be shared online.

I know this is a farfetched theory, but still a possibility.
 

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Well, for many people "male transitioned to woman" is no more a male, but a real woman, so that quote does not clarify. Trans people would be considered "not males" in that scenario. I asked because the original futa concept is usually no more requested/trendy and people prefer trans with balls & dick.
In a game universe where there are no men, that quote clarifies everything. Because to transition, there must first exist men.
 

AndL78

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And a question about Rachel's story about the events with Natasha(ep5). Can anyone tell me if there's just one version or several? If there's only one version, then Rachel didn't tell the whole truth, because when MC knocked on the door, the neighbor said, "Wait, let them get dressed," meaning she had reason to suspect they were having sex. And if it was just a massage, Rachel would hardly have hidden it from MC.
The question is, will we find out what really happened at Natasha's house in this version? Or should we wait for a future update?
I hope they finally tell us the truth.
 
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turbokinetics

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man whats the exclamation point for in the choices? all these icons should be in the help section of the game or a fake load screen in the recap section. its been too damn long haha
 

Chillout1984

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man whats the exclamation point for in the choices? all these icons should be in the help section of the game or a fake load screen in the recap section. its been too damn long haha
There's a legenda in the settings when you press the "?"that's next to "hints" (or something). Exclamation Points are choices that are made possible because of previous choices.
 

AndL78

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Or:

It's Vanessa and she's just mad that she cannot really blackmail Ashe anymore as Ms. X because so many people now know about it and it's very possible the video is going to be shared online.

I know this is a farfetched theory, but still a possibility.

I like your theory and it seems promising. And one possibility is that Vanessa is being blackmailed into blackmailing Ashe.

But don't you think it could be Penny, who's been constantly watching MC in this update? I hope not, because it seems simply boring.
 

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In a game universe where there are no men, that quote clarifies everything. Because to transition, there must first exist men.
Yeah but what if men existed, but they all transitioned, so now there are no more men? :WeSmart:
 

Chillout1984

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I like your theory and it seems promising. And one possibility is that Vanessa is being blackmailed into blackmailing Ashe.

But don't you think it could be Penny, who's been constantly watching MC in this update? I hope not, because it seems simply boring.
Who is Penny again?
I already have deleted the game and her name doesn't seem familiar to me with this game.

I can think of some more possibilities of who Ms X could be like the "feminine"-stripper (I believe her name is Scarlet), who might be looking for a new duplo in the porn industry, but the problem with most if not all of them is: How did they find out Ashe is a duplo and/or how do they know (almost) everything Ashe is doing.
 

Chillout1984

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I think X IS RACHEL:WeSmart:
You're probably jesting but considering their history and confesses she still loves Ashe but was too afraid to admit it (it was even the opposite) and how easily and hungrily she kissed Ashe in the pool, you could have a point. I know the kiss in the pool was made easier because of the drug, but even with it I seriously believe she would have more of a problem to kiss Ashe in public.
 
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