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"Hey Isabella, I know we basically never got along and in several routes I was potentially in the fuckpile where Cleo cheated on you, but you're single now and I'm the MC of the porn game sooooooo..."

Obviously Ashe won't forget the distress Isabella caused her both as herself and as Ms. X, hence the hatefuck, but now that she is already going to have to confront the fact she has been outed as a duplo, she will probably experience some catharsis. Most of her stress and distress aimed at Ms. X wasn't about the act of blackmail or the naughty embarassing tasks in and of themselves, but about her long-standing fear of being outed as a duplo, which came to pass through no fault of Ms. X.

The negative feelings about the blackmail experience will still be there but I doubt they could be as intense as they were when Ashe confronted Delilah, since then her secret was still at stake.
You might not like the bully-to-lover trope but it exists and I think it could be the case with Bella. They have come closer together in this udpate.
 

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You might not like the bully-to-lover trope but it exists and I think it could be the case with Bella. They have come closer together in this udpate.
I don't have anything against the trope, it would just be bad writing to say Isabella and Ashe are "setup" as love interests by this update just because Bella and Cleo are probably breaking up, still a long way to go.

And the actual point I was making is that Isabella being Ms. X wouldn't preclude her and Ashe from getting together because Ashe would "hate her too much". Specially since the bully-to-lover trope almost always starts with a hatefuck.
 
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I don't have anything against the trope, it would just be bad writing to say Isabella and Ashe are "setup" as love interests by this update just because Bella and Cleo are probably breaking up, still a long way to go.

And the actual point I was making is that Isabella being Ms. X wouldn't preclude her and Ashe from getting together because Ashe would "hate her too much". Specially since the bully-to-lover trope almost always starts with a hatefuck.
It's not just because they are possibly breaking up. Bella and Ashe can flirt quite a bit this update (I believe we have yet to see how much is being caused by the drug), and I believe it was Rachel who said that Bella "bullies" those that she cares about.
 

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Does Ashe always get exposed as a duplo no matter the choices you make regarding drinking?
 

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It's not just because they are possibly breaking up. Bella and Ashe can flirt quite a bit this update, and I believe it was Rachel who said that Bella "bullies" those that she cares about.
They can flirt if both of them are drunk af. Maybe it is just me, but I think it takes more than that to be fully "setup as a love interest".

Also I know context can easily get lost in forum talks, but what I have been saying from the beginning is that Isabella being Ms. X makes a lot of sense precisely IF Isabella has strong feelings for Ashe. In fact I would go as far as saying she being Ms. X would be the best way of developing her as a love interest (helps establish just how intense her fixation on Ashe was, she might feel a lot of remorse due to how Ashe actually ended up being exposed in a traumatic way even if it wasn't her fault, gives Ashe extra reason to hatefuck her before actually thinking of her as a LI).

What I was arguing against was people saying Isabella can't be Ms. X because she is already established as a LI (disagree), and because it would be impossible for Ashe to develop anything romantic with Ms. X because she would "hate her too much" (double disagree, Ashe is not going to be as filled with rage and dread as she was before her secret was exposed and this development would fit her plot with Isabella like a glove).
 

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Does Ashe always get exposed as a duplo no matter the choices you make regarding drinking?
I believe so , plus you lost your phone earlier at the party.

drinking is just one way to control the dialogue and scene progression at the party without making it based solely on choices
 

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They can flirt if both of them are drunk af. Maybe it is just me, but I think it takes more than that to be fully "setup as a love interest".

Also I know context can easily get lost in forum talks, but what I have been saying from the beginning is that Isabella being Ms. X makes a lot of sense precisely IF Isabella has strong feelings for Ashe. In fact I would go as far as saying she being Ms. X would be the best way of developing her as a love interest (helps establish just how intense her fixation on Ashe was, she might feel a lot of remorse due to how Ashe actually ended up being exposed in a traumatic way even if it wasn't her fault, gives Ashe extra reason to hatefuck her before actually thinking of her as a LI).

What I was arguing against was people saying Isabella can't be Ms. X because she is already established as a LI (disagree), and because it would be impossible for Ashe to develop anything romantic with Ms. X because she would "hate her too much" (double disagree, Ashe is not going to be as filled with rage and dread as she was before her secret was exposed and this development would fit her plot with Isabella like a glove).
It depends on what you mean by LI. I mean it as in the gaming sense, a main character that you can pursue/fuck and have some kind of sexual relationship (GF, FWB, etc.)

But I like your theory on Bella being Ms X.
 

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It's not just because they are possibly breaking up. Bella and Ashe can flirt quite a bit this update (I believe we have yet to see how much is being caused by the drug), and I believe it was Rachel who said that Bella "bullies" those that she cares about.
nah bro she hates ashe and there is no way ashe would date her
 

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I'm starting to think Vanessa is the blackmailer and she got pissed because she has now lost all her leverage, now that pretty much everyone knows
Dude there was task from blacmalier to give vanessa drink with cum. This girl doesnt seem to me like cum lover...
 

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Does Ashe always get exposed as a duplo no matter the choices you make regarding drinking?
Yes, and is the cliffhanger we wil have to suffer for 6 months...... :cry:

I am so curious what will happen next. How is Ashe responding. How will the story develope with her sister. And how are other people going to react. Mainly Vanessa. I did not see her coming so ballistic.
 

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Everyone know that Vanessa loves cum. Especially duplo cum. Yum yum.

Vanessa being Ms. X is nonsense though, I agree with that at least.
I don't see why it's nonsense. She has multiple reasons, she has the means, she has a personality of always wanting to be bossy and in control and there are at least 2 reasons why it would make sense she has the outburst at the end: Either it was on purpose because Ashe didn't do the assignment, or it wasn't her idea and she's pissed chances are pretty likely she can't blackmail anymore. I'm not saying she definitely is Ms. X, but she is certainly high up there with imo little to no evidence that she cannot be Ms. X
 
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Nah, she says Ashe is too easy to read.

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I replayed the hot tub scene without lying and I didn't even get Isabella to jump at me, one of the answers was definitely negative to her.

Are the requisites for each of those scenes in plain text (as in, not obfuscated) somewhere in the code?
 

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I replayed the hot tub scene without lying and I didn't even get Isabella to jump at me, one of the answers was definitely negative to her.

Are the requisites for each of those scenes in plain text (as in, not obfuscated) somewhere in the code?
If I read the code correctly:

- It can be done on any path
- Don't play the final round
- Ashe must have a drunklevel of 41 or higher
- Cleo cannot have kissed Rachel
- Isabella suspicious level must be 4 or lower
- Isabella drunklevel must be 12 or lower
 
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If I read the code correctly:

- It can be done on any path
- Don't play the final round
- Ashe must have a drunklevel of 41 or higher
- Cleo cannot have kissed Rachel
- Isabella suspicious level must be 4 or lower
- Isabella drunklevel must be 12 or lower
So I need to try to avoid Isabella drinking too much, I don't know how her drinking is measured so I will just try to ask questions in which she won't drink
 

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I spent many, many hours creating the perfect tier list. Turns out that Vanessa is still the goat. If anyone disagrees:
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I don't see why it's nonsense. She has multiple reasons, she has the means, she has a personality of always wanting to be bossy and in control and there are at least 2 reasons why it would make sense she has the outburst at the end: Either it was on purpose because Ashe didn't do the assignment, or it wasn't her idea and she's pissed chances are pretty likely she can't blackmail anymore. I'm not saying she definitely is Ms. X, but she is certainly high up there with imo little to no evidence that she cannot be Ms. X
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All your hypotheses are interesting. I ask myself the same questions and imagine scenarios that could come true. But it doesn't really matter. We'll see what happens.

I do believe, however, that a story that is updated so rarely cannot end a chapter in this way. This matters much more to me. Ending chapters in this way, making me feel a lot of negative emotions (anger, discouragement, frustration, hatred, etc.) is not a good way to end chapters. Now, for a year, when I think back on this game, I will remember all the negative feelings I had at the end of the chapter.

The chapter could have ended a little earlier. At Brianna's push, for example. And the next chapter could have begun with the consequences of the fall. That way, I wouldn't have ended up feeling all the negative things I felt.

As I said, this way, for the next year, I will think about this game and remember all the negative things I am feeling right now.
 
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I replayed the hot tub scene without lying and I didn't even get Isabella to jump at me, one of the answers was definitely negative to her.

Are the requisites for each of those scenes in plain text (as in, not obfuscated) somewhere in the code?
You need to use a program called unren to extract the .rpy code files, but after that it is easily human readable plaintext code.

The specific checks to get Isabella's post hot-tub scene are:
Code:
if not day17p4_cleo_rachel_kiss:
    [...]
    if day17p4_nhie_suspicious <= 4:
        [...]
        if day17p_drunk_isabella > 11:
            [...]
            if score_drunk <= 90 and (route_siren or (route_kitten and score_drunk > 50)):
                "..."
                    pass
                "Yes." if route_kitten:
                    day17p4_k_isabella_submit = True
                "(Push her away and leave)" if route_siren:
                    day17p4_s_isabella_push = True
            if not day17p4_k_isabella_submit and not day17p4_s_isabella_push:
                if day17p_drunk_isabella > 13 and (route_siren or day17p4_isabella_nipple):
                    day17p4_isabella_spread = True
                    if route_siren and score_drunk > 70:
                        "(Grope her)":
                            day17p4_s_isabella_grope = True
                            if score_drunk > 95:
                                day17p4_s_isabella_grope_finger = True
Long story short, if you want the full scene you need to:

make it so Rachel didn't kiss Cleo (don't be in the cuck route or kiss Rachel yourself as part of the task)
don't let Isabella get too suspicious about your answers
make sure Isabella is very drunk (hangout with her earlier in the night and pick options that make her drink during the game)
choose to suck Isabella's nipple during the punishment

If you have done all of the above you will at least get Isabella to spread herself to Ashe, if you are in the kitten route you can choose to submit to let her push her tits up against Ashe's face instead, and if you are in the siren route you can grope her by not shoving her away if you are very drunk, and if you are extremely drunk you will even go farther and finger her.
 
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