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Cherubin25

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It's an HS game, so if competing in an "open" category with Daz and Blender games included should not have placed 2nd over games like Westview Academy, Chasing Sunsets and Midnight Paradise from an objective standpoint.
The thing is that how much you like character models is entirely subjective. I wont argue that creating characters in Daz will most likely be more time consuming and require more effort than creating them in HS/HS2. But more effort does not really mean that it is better and it certainly does not mean that others will like it more. E.g. I dont really like games done with Daz and I dont like the models.

And while it is obvious that HS/HS2-artists also spend their time to make the characters unique, I want to say that the thing what I really like about Eternum is that side characters are also pretty fleshes out when it comes to their appearance. A good example would be the two people who competed with Nova and the MC at the University Party. They were far from standard looking characters which are often used.
 

rudy007

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I dunno, Eternum winning Best Story award was wild.
There are so many games with a well defined and better written story (no offense, it's just that Eternum's is a bit cliche) that I feel like the award ceremony may have gotten brigaded. Then again, many did not get an update in 2024 so maybe that's why they weren't included.

Most of Eternum's awards were totally called for and deserved, but some like the one mentioned above as well as Runners up for Best Character Models I believe? certainly raise a brow.
It's an HS game, so if competing in an "open" category with Daz and Blender games included should not have placed 2nd over games like Westview Academy, Chasing Sunsets and Midnight Paradise from an objective standpoint.
You have some points right. But that 2024 is probably 2023 awards because technically Eternum or SG didn't have any update in 2024. I like the story of Eternum, it doesn't have typically AVN story, it's pretty unique story. those 2-3 frame loop animations aren't unique, but they are on the right places. Caribdis use them in a unique way. His approach to HS/HS2 renders is good too, I don't think it's the best, but isn't mediocre either. So, it's a subjective opinion of every judge, it does0t have to be the best overall, but if you count the votes, it's the best scored...
We all have our own opinion on every game, but I still believe they voted good...
 
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Totally deserved. The only award I wouldn't entirely agree will be Best Music / Sound design because yeah, the songs are amazing and the quality is top notch, but I can think in two or three games at the same level as Eternum. The rest of awards? Yeah, Eternum is the winner without doubts.

Congratulations Caribdis.
 

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You have some points right. But that 2024 is probably 2023 awards because technically Eternum or SG didn't have any update in 2024. I like the story of Eternum, it doesn't have typically AVN story, it's pretty unique story. those 2-3 frame loop animations aren't unique, but they are on the right places. Caribdis use them in a unique way. His approach to HS/HS2 renders is good too, I don't think it's the best, but isn't mediocre either. So, it's a subjective opinion of every judge, it does0t have to be the best overall, but if you count the votes, it's the best scored...
We all have our own opinion on every game, but I still believe they voted good...
Yeah, it´s all really subjective,but i think Eternum deserves the win, SG is one of the best for me and if Eternum didn´t win i would put SG as a winner, but the story in Eternum is more advanced than in SG, and updates shed more light on the plot. SG is just starting now, and the first season is mostly to get to know the characters and the environment, maybe in the second season could win :unsure:
 
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Yeah, it´s all really subjective,but i think Eternum deserves the win, SG is one of the best for me and if Eternum didn´t win i would put SG as a winner, but the story in Eternum is more advanced than in SG, and updates shed more light on the plot. SG is just starting now, and the first season is mostly to get to know the characters and the environment, maybe in the second season could win :unsure:
Does anyone really care though what the circle jerk of Reddit (who only really talk about 5 VN's anyway) really think?
 
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Totally deserved. The only award I wouldn't entirely agree will be Best Music / Sound design because yeah, the songs are amazing and the quality is top notch, but I can think in two or three games at the same level as Eternum. The rest of awards? Yeah, Eternum is the winner without doubts.

Congratulations Caribdis.
I think in general the BaD soundtrack is somewhat better, but Eternum has the best sound design for effects.

Does anyone really care though what the circle jerk of Reddit (who only really talk about 5 VN's anyway) really think?
Yes and no. Social proof is one of our natural born instincts and survival strategies.
 
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Don Sucio

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Does anyone really care though what the circle jerk of Reddit (who only really talk about 5 VN's anyway) really think?
Well , those things are cool for me, it´s nice have our own "Oscars" for visual novels, it makes more discussions and can be some type of emotionals rewards for the devs, i don´t know :ROFLMAO:

But in the end the only thing that matters is that everyone enjoys their own thing, regardless of what some awards say :)
 
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They also voted for Eternum second place in best graphics nomination , what kinda weird, because DAZ/Blender created game with even average visuals look superior.
But I know that subreddit, they voted on the basis of "I love this game", plus they hate one popular VN and will vote for anything to not let it win (I remember from last year's competition for the best girl in the genre).
But many of these awards, like for me - best HS2 game, best harem, best story, best sci-fi, are well deserved.
Although Eternum is not 100% sci-fi and the setting is more like a techno-magical world.
 

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Congrats Caribdis, Eternum really is a Great Game, definitely one of my favourites. It's been a long time since I truly enjoyed playing an AVN game and Eternum is one of those. Keep up the good work and wishing you all the very best in your future endeavours. :)
 

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You know, it’s better to avoid direct mention of another games, they don’t like it here. Plus it will lead to offtopic with the AVNs war. But I think you can guess what is meant by “the popular VN”
right, my bad. I forgot about the rule. Just I'm thick as a brick and haven't been on that sub long enough to notice any kind of directed hate toward any one AVN
 
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right, my bad. I forgot about the rule. Just I'm thick as a brick and haven't been on that sub long enough to notice any kind of directed hate toward any one AVN
I saw last year’s of voting for the best waifu on that subreddit (our Alex seemed to take second place if I'm not wrong) - voting ended with threats and death wishes in the comments. Some people just go crazy over these games and pixel waifus.
 

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For music alone I agree, there are a bunch with better songs than Eternum - I generally play with sounds off so take my opinion with a pinch of salt, but BaDIK has one of the best OSTs I've ever heard in a AVN (multiple songs added to my playlist).
I am obsessed with the OST on Eternum (at least the ones that play at the most notable plot points), but you're telling me you know automatically more if not better OSTs out there? I know it's a subjective topic, but damn that says a lot.
 

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I'll just put the answer I already did on off-topic thread:

As much as I agree with most of it, let's be honest. Those are just popularity contests. Oailt didn't won the anual prize here in f95zone, although until today continues to be one of the better games on these forums.

There's a reason as to why japanese animation barely wins academy awards, even if they are 525582 times better than US animation.
Don't get me wrong btw, I love Eternum and Caribdis is one of my favorite devs, and I always encourage for people to support him. But unfortunely that kind of contests are just about popularity.
 
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I actually wanna hateplap Charlotte pretty badly... I don't deserve this game
Part of me really wants a side LI character like Jasmine (i think that was her name) from OiaLT
A character that starts off rude and bad but u fuck her into a redemption arc :WeSmart:
I wouldn't mind Regina/Charlotte or hell even the unholy Gertrude

But I think Maat would fit that archetype really well

I actually wanna hateplap Charlotte pretty badly... I don't deserve this game
Part of me really wants a character like Jasmine (i think that was her name) from OiaLT
A character that starts off rude and bad but u fuck her into a redemption arc
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Next thing we are gonna see is someone wants to fuck regina o_O :sick: :WutFace:
If there's a hole, there's a goal :WeSmart:
 

Radish Cruton

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It's an HS game, so if competing in an "open" category with Daz and Blender games included should not have placed 2nd over games like Westview Academy, Chasing Sunsets and Midnight Paradise from an objective standpoint.
That‘s the thing - it’s not objective.

I much prefer the HS2 characters in Eternum to any Daz game. There may be a Daz character in a game here or there which I prefer over the Eternum characters, but at a set of characters, to me, there is no game with better character design than Eternum.
 

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Eternum is definitely one of the best games here and for me personally top 1 game. Congratulations on winning the best AVN award, well deserved and cant wait what the next updates will bring.
 

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Christ this update is proving to be a slow one. I've heard that v10 won't be the last update, which means that at this rate Eternum won't be finished until at minimum halfway through 2026. That's 5 years in development total. But 2027 or 2028 are looking more realistic. The problem I suppose is that by then the tech will be much more advanced; Eternum was the best looking AVN on the market when it came out, and arguably still is when you take into account the quality of the animations and set-pieces, but in 3 or 4 years time it's going to be lagging behind. And no one wants Caribdis to fall into the remaster trap.
 
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