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That's a concession that must be made in a game like this, sadly, unless you go full manga or establish the girls as being into open relationships from the get-go (which could easily become so outlandish that it would require even more suspension of disbelief).

I've said this before in this thread, but if nothing else, I'd say Caribdis has markedly improved since OiaL, given how Orion is believably written as a good, pleasant person, womanizing tendencies aside. OiaL's MC, on the other hand, was often portrayed as a good person, only for the game to reward the player for
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The 0.7 scene with
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is hands down the best scene ever made in these types of games. Other popular games are not even close.
its matter of opinions, for reasons i expressed before i find it to be my least favorite scene of the update with luna being favorite (but i should also point out the bias cause luna is my favorite LI)
 

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As I have explained before:

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yeah i heard you and read your explanation, let me have my dose of copium lmao :p
jokes aside though
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I am not saying you are wrong, i am saying in my opinion it would be bad narrative or at least one not to my liking
 
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That's a concession that must be made in a game like this, sadly, unless you go full manga or establish the girls as being into open relationships from the get-go (which could easily become so outlandish that it would require even more suspension of disbelief).

I've said this before in this thread, but if nothing else, I'd say Caribdis has markedly improved since OiaL, given how Orion is believably written as a good, pleasant person, womanizing tendencies aside. OiaL's MC, on the other hand, was often protrayed as a good person, only for the game to reward the player for
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Agreed. I was very pleased with the improvements to character consent in this game over the last.
 
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yeah i heard you and read your explanation, let me have my dose of copium lmao :p
jokes aside though
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I am not saying you are wrong, i am saying in my opinion it would be bad narrative or at least one not to my liking
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Then again...Cari has a way of resolve his cliffhanger a bit cheaply every now and then...so for all we know, you might be right after all. Which in turn would be something I wouldn't particularly like. :Kappa:

I've expressed this a long time ago in this thread, but I find it funny how Orion is so well written and genuinely the greatest man on earth in the individual girls' routes, but when you play the harem route, I perceive him as more of a womanizer and find him much more unlikeable.
Yeah, Cari closes in on the point where this becomes a problem and maybe this even will play a role now after the end of 0.7, we'll see.
 
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Then again...Cari has a way of resolve his cliffhanger a bit cheaply every now and then...so for all we know, you might be right after all. Which in turn would be something I wouldn't particularly like. :Kappa:



Yeah, Cari closes in on the point where this becomes a problem and maybe this even will play a role now after the end of 0.7, we'll see.
Dude, your explanation is really awesome and so satisfying.
 

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Doesn't matter if it's NTR or not, people will call it NTR because nobody knows what it means. Open relationship? NTR. Woman sleeping with someone while being friends with the main character but not dating? NTR. Consensual cuckoldry? NTR. MMF threesome? NTR. Rape? NTR.
"Well and why not? Surely all of these are examples of Non-Traditional Relationships, yes? You have to really think about these things, like I did when I decided the theme of my 60:th birthday should be Bridge, Darts, Song and Music. Now I just need to find out who spiked the drinks..."
 

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Then again...Cari has a way of resolve his cliffhanger a bit cheaply every now and then...so for all we know, you might be right after all. Which in turn would be something I wouldn't particularly like. :Kappa:



Yeah, Cari closes in on the point where this becomes a problem and maybe this even will play a role now after the end of 0.7, we'll see.
yeah its definition of agree to disagree, no matter what happens one of us gonna be right and other one wont like the outcome (unless we are both wrong in which case :pikachushockedface: ) XD
i also like how we both perceive crucial details of each others theory as potential red herring and its valid in both cases. like i am not disagreeing with what you say i just hope that is not the case :)
 

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"Well and why not? Surely all of these are examples of Non-Traditional Relationships, yes? You have to really think about these things, like I did when I decided the theme of my 60:th birthday should be Bridge, Darts, Song and Music. Now I just need to find out who spiked the drinks..."
i suck at perceiving sarcasm in text form so i have to ask is this it?
 

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By my reading, sarcasm is meant to be derisive. I was more going for light-hearted comedy, and clearly I wasn't ready for production.
double meaning of NTR and BDSM is comedy, do not take my lack of text reading comprehension as proper judgement of your post. others had no problem seeing it for what it is. Also with context and knowing the nature of post, having double meanings on both NTR and BDSM and use them properly as well as in form of response to pre-existing post take skills. One of reasons i could not be sure if it is sarcasm or serious response (aka i didnt know if you were making a joke or seriously not knowing what NTR means) IS because of how naturaly that response looked like. the BDSM part should give away the fact its a joke but it flew over my head, thats on me XD
 
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double meaning of NTR and BDSM is comedy, do not take my lack of text reading comprehension as proper judgement of your post. others had no problem seeing it for what it is. Also with context and knowing the nature of post, having double meanings on both NTR and BDSM and use them properly as well as in form of response to pre-existing post take skills. One of reasons i could not be sure if it is sarcasm or serious response (aka i didnt know if you were making a joke or seriously not knowing what NTR means) IS because of how naturaly that response looked like. the BDSM part should give away the fact its a joke but it flew over my head, thats on me XD
NTR = netorare ...It's a Japanese word to describe cheating but in a game like this, everyone seems to have their own definition.

The most common would possibly be, when the MC is forced to watch his LI engage in sex with another person.

It is a fetish for some but many despise it. Some even consider lesbian sex between LI's that doesn't involve the MC to be NTR.

It is a very subjective topic, but basically it means "cheating" used as a game element or kink.
 

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NTR = netorare ...It's a Japanese word to describe cheating but in a game like this, everyone seems to have their own definition.

The most common would possibly be, when the MC is forced to watch his LI engage in sex with another person.

It is a fetish for some but many despise it. Some even consider lesbian sex between LI's that doesn't involve the MC to be NTR.

It is a very subjective topic, but basically it means "cheating" used as a game element or kink.
There's actually three variations of NTR. Netorare, where you are the target of cheating/spouse stealing. Netori, where you steal someones spouse. And Netorase, where your love interest has sex with others, but you enjoy it.
 
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NTR = netorare ...It's a Japanese word to describe cheating but in a game like this, everyone seems to have their own definition.
The most common would possibly be, when the MC is forced to watch his LI engage in sex with another person.
It is a fetish for some but many despise it. Some even consider lesbian sex between LI's that doesn't involve the MC to be NTR.
It is a very subjective topic, but basically it means "cheating" used as a game element or kink.
There's actually three variations of NTR. Netorare, where you are the target of cheating/spouse stealing. Netori, where you steal someones spouse. And Netorase, where your love interest has sex with others, but you enjoy it.
I sometimes wonder if the "no NTR at all", "NTR in EVERYTHING!!!!" or the "every game should be an incest game" types get more annoying.

I'd lean towards the "no NTR at all" (especially when they also think every potential LI should be a virgin), but I think it gets worse if they are also an "every game should be an incest game" type that gets upset at the realization that they were pre-cucked by their own dad. :LOL:
 
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I sometimes wonder if the "no NTR at all", "NTR in EVERYTHING!!!!" or the "every game should be an incest game" types get more annoying.

I'd lean towards the "no NTR at all" (especially when the also think every potential LI should be a virgin), but I think it gets worse if they are also an "every game should be an incest game" type that gets upset at the realization that they were pre-cucked by their own dad. :LOL:
It's why they finally changed the tag, it's no longer NTR but it's Netorare. And it's good change of rules, since personally i like Netori, but don't really care for the other two.
 
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