VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.0] [Caribdis]

[The.World.According.To.Me]

Freeing Eternum (or whatever the multi-dimensionalverse is actually called) does not necessarily mean that access to the different realms will disappear. It's possible to unlock Earth so its accessible and they could all move to one of the other realms and live out their Harem Life.

Yes, I know as of now, they basically access Eternum through OBEs, but as far as I recall they never said whether the Founder goes in full body or also OBE. So might be possible to travel whole.

I guess only Cari (and whoever he bounces idea's off of) knows, and even then, it might not be set in stone. (Some of my favorite authors have claimed to know exactly how the story would proceed and end only to be surprised at the climax that "the characters kind of did their own thing and didn't really listen to the author". I am not an author, so I don't know how this fully works but they swear.)

 

[JillybeanEnjoyer]

After seeing the likes of "bad reviews" I can see a few certain individuals that are just Cari's biggest haters.

 

[Opa Wants]

After seeing the likes of "bad reviews" I can see a few certain individuals that are just Cari's biggest haters.

They just want MORE porn than STORY.

 

[e6mill]

Yes, I know as of now, they basically access Eternum through OBEs, but as far as I recall they never said whether the Founder goes in full body or also OBE. So might be possible to travel whole.

It's mentioned at one point that the people who can enter & leave Eternum without portals or gear are called "immortals". You may recall that Caly says it was the immortals who locked her in that box in which we found her on the snowy world... Also (coincidence?) the name Ambrose (who was Eva's madam when we first meet her) literally MEANS immortal...

 

[indio68]

still no updates?? damn what a long wait...i totally forgot how things were at this point...it can't take this long for updates...really it's not normal to me.. same as BDik and other VN too....

 

[Takkatakka]

still no updates?? damn what a long wait...i totally forgot how things were at this point...it can't take this long for updates...really it's not normal to me.. same as BDik and other VN too....

Well, it will likely be about another month if not slightly more.

 

[indio68]

Well, it will likely be about another month if not slightly more.

 

[The.World.According.To.Me]

It's mentioned at one point that the people who can enter & leave Eternum without portals or gear are called "immortals".

I do remember this part of dialog; however it still does not clearly state that the method of entering / leaving is full bodied or OBE. Either way, if Orion and our host of beautiful women, take control of Eternum I just wonder if Orion, through the use of the 10 stones, would be able to "unlock" Eternum as opposed to basically crashing the game (more or less) that I have read some people theorizing.

There are so many possibilities, as I play it is hard to not think about them. In the end it will play out how it plays out but, the world is so expansive as it stands that the mind inherently wanders to the "what ifs". I love this game.

 

[muhu1]

I see there is talk about my girl Eva. IMO she could be a secondary LI but it will depend on how much she'll interact with the group in the future. She reminds me of the fact that in OIALT Iris, Aiko and Jasmine don't actually have "paths" per se but they can be part of the harem.

Will this happen in Eternum now that we have more primary LI? Depends on how much content is added and story involvement.

She will obviously have less sex scenes than the rest of the LI but Calypso is in the same boat thus we'll have to account how involved she'd get with everyone. For exanple:

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And yes, I'm pushing for Eva to be a LI both because I like her and because I want more Eternum.

We need to keep Cari in the content mines working his ahh off since, obviously, we're a bunch of sadistic freaks We'll turn our dear DEV into a masochist femboy sooner or later

This last part is an obvious jab at all the people with unhealthy update expectations we see on most games on this site

Isn't there an egyptian server?
Forgot the name but we might see Maat again.

yup, Orion will get his first female experience

Or... the juice could be used to implement a lewd scene which a lot of people would like to see.
Orion with one of the Carters + Annie? with Polyjuice into Dalia or something along those lines.
Dunno about Patreon when an "incest" scene (it isn't) is implemented like this

 

[e6mill]

Use it to bang Alex's mom. OR... use the dopplecloner and have one use the potion to appear to be Alex's dad. Blackmail him with a vid of "him" and Orion tag-teaming his lovely daughter.
Use the juice to become the Founder and see where that gets you.
Use to turn into Thanatos and steal people's Gems of Doom with your 100% compat speed gimmick while they're shitting their britches.
The possibilities are endless and don't have to involve sex at all.

 

[sexypeanut]

still no updates?? damn what a long wait...i totally forgot how things were at this point...it can't take this long for updates...really it's not normal to me.. same as BDik and other VN too....

ALL story-heavy porn games will have big update intervals as their story advances. You need to consider branching, decisions made by players and loose ends needing to be closed. As well as devs improving their techniques and needing more time to render prettier renders.
In Eternum's case, you can be sure the wait will never be less than 7 months.

 

[Ozymandias037]

(Some of my favorite authors have claimed to know exactly how the story would proceed and end only to be surprised at the climax that "the characters kind of did their own thing and didn't really listen to the author". I am not an author, so I don't know how this fully works but they swear.)

As an Occasional Unpublished Writer, I can confirm. If you've got a solid enough concept of your characters (and you should), then the plot follows naturally from their personalities and priorities and the situations they are in. It's called character-driven plotting, and it's wonderful when it happens.

Another way to think about this is with tabletop role playing games such as D&D. The DM can write whatever scenario they want, but the players still have agency to go do whatever they want in the world the DM creates. Sometimes they'll follow the plot hooks laid out by the DM, and other times they won't. An author gets the same choice as a DM in this situation: Do I railroad and force the plot to do what I want in a heavy-handed and artificial way, or do I let the players do their thing and just roll with it?

Dunno about Patreon when an "incest" scene (it isn't) is implemented like this

I would be very surprised if Patreon made this kind of exception. IMO, a smart creator wouldn't even try.

 

[seniorboop]

still no updates?? damn what a long wait...i totally forgot how things were at this point...it can't take this long for updates...really it's not normal to me.. same as BDik and other VN too....

Ive never seen dev time decrease as releases increment.

Eventually you'll become largely apathetic, especially with VNs that reach annual release timelines.

Eternum is still undebatably my #1 but im about 7/100 (not a typo) on the hype scale. I dont think the update will be bad in the slightest, all the previous updates and Eternum itself is what I consider the perfect example of what AVNs should be, but at this point ive forgotten the near entirety of the current release.

Only replied because you mentioned BaD, my intro to AVNs and previous #1, and it made me reflect on how the update timeline of it made me completely apathetic. Never finished its most recent update and any desire I had for it, and the VN itself, died.

All that yapping to say the grass may not be greener when you stop ruminating over update timelines, but theres still some type of grass.

 

[Skep-tiker]

Another way to think about this is with tabletop role playing games such as D&D. The DM can write whatever scenario they want, but the players still have agency to go do whatever they want in the world the DM creates. Sometimes they'll follow the plot hooks laid out by the DM, and other times they won't.

 

[jock1a]

i quit tracking updates on avn's sometime ago. it is on my to do list i just haven't found the time. i like this AVN so i read the comment's and there is always one completionist <- (not a word until now. i just made it one ^^.) That point's out everything i missed and the time frame it took to get the next update. So i would like to thank the people that pay way more attention than i do and tell me about what i missed. As a result of that i am currently playing through from the beginning again. Doing my second playthrough of Black Myth Wukong ATM too. IT is Damn just damn!!!

 

[Dorfnutter]

Right now, he's currently bleeding to death so he's unlikely to do much fucking*, but even now he's being called out by an omniscient being who seems to think he's been acting like quite the fuckboy. While i do think you're right in that he may change a bit after this traumatic experience, he also.... may not. And the degree or direction of that change is totally up for grabs. As it is, all we have is his past behaviour to go off of. He's fucking multiple girls, not telling any of them this (without protection, so better hope absolutely NO ONE has any STDs) setting himself up as their romantic partner. A friend of mine irl, calls this 'love bombing' when you pursue the fuck out of someone with texts, gifts, amazing dates, etc, until they become yours. But the problem is it rarely lasts. In this case, it's not even possible for it to 'last'. Someone is going to find out he's fucking their sister/mother/best friend/friend of a friend. If OiaL is anything to go by, they'll completely accept it instantly, but its interesting in that that's not how Caribdis writes the scenes now.

He deliberately has Orion hiding what he's doing from each girl. Making it seem like his actions are shameful or hurtful or at least, unexpected. Ergo, the story conditions us to think this is a plot point that will be explored. Whether that takes the form of more 'cheating' or simply a deus ex machina like before, no one can say for certain yet.

*thought I wouldn't rule it out, knowing him

Cari already mentioned that the harem formation will be a lot earlier compared to OIAL, so it's likely that Orion will eventually come clean to the girls about what he's doing and what he actually feels for all of them. This isn't going to go like OIAL where the harem gets formed around the story's epilogue, as the harem this time around is built more like a sisterhood amongst the girls. It's also why there's doubt that Orion will continue with sleeping with people outside the harem, what with the heavy buildup towards it and all.

 

[Remnant-1]

Isn't there an egyptian server?
Forgot the name but we might see Maat again.

Ohhh yeah lemme get some more devious Maat action plz!

 

[Dorfnutter]

Freeing Eternum (or whatever the multi-dimensionalverse is actually called) does not necessarily mean that access to the different realms will disappear. It's possible to unlock Earth so its accessible and they could all move to one of the other realms and live out their Harem Life.

Yes, I know as of now, they basically access Eternum through OBEs, but as far as I recall they never said whether the Founder goes in full body or also OBE. So might be possible to travel whole.

I guess only Cari (and whoever he bounces idea's off of) knows, and even then, it might not be set in stone. (Some of my favorite authors have claimed to know exactly how the story would proceed and end only to be surprised at the climax that "the characters kind of did their own thing and didn't really listen to the author". I am not an author, so I don't know how this fully works but they swear.)

Eternum is basically the Cariverse version of the Astral Plane, so access to it via OBEs will still be viable even when the VRMMO goes kaput.

That's not the issue, though. The issue is the fact that the VRMMO system operates by exploiting the dead currently trapped in whatever state they are at the moment and is seemingly contributing to the degradation of the servers by way of the players either introducing stuff that are not native to their environment (i.e. the Xenomorph infection) or making the servers seemingly go haywire due to their continued presence (i.e. the loss of one of the Wild West themed servers due to a zombie invasion).

Assuming that the game ends with the dead becoming free from their shackles, that alone would kill the NPC system since Ulysses won't be able to have full access to the dead which they can brainwash into being an NPC. Idriel will also likely leave with them as it's heavily implied from her dialogue that she is one of the dead being chained. And if the Idriel is Anima theory is true, then that also means that she is actually the reason why people can port in and out of many worlds as Caly's story about her mentions that she has the same abilities as her (albeit much greater than Caly's). If she goes away, no more Nexus, no more easy server travel.

 

[Dorfnutter]

It's mentioned at one point that the people who can enter & leave Eternum without portals or gear are called "immortals". You may recall that Caly says it was the immortals who locked her in that box in which we found her on the snowy world... Also (coincidence?) the name Ambrose (who was Eva's madam when we first meet her) literally MEANS immortal...

At will. Immortals can come in and out at will, meaning they have control of that particular ability.

Normies can enter Eternum, but the normal way requires them to experience OBE via the trad methods like meditation, dreaming, or hallucinogenic drugs...or having a near-death experience. And even those are essentially unreliable, which is why the implant is essential to the Founder's whole scheme (as it allows them to jump in and out like how an Immortal would).

 

[artofwar]

He deliberately has Orion hiding what he's doing from each girl. Making it seem like his actions are shameful or hurtful or at least, unexpected. Ergo, the story conditions us to think this is a plot point that will be explored. Whether that takes the form of more 'cheating' or simply a deus ex machina like before, no one can say for certain yet.

*thought I wouldn't rule it out, knowing him

What, like being shot and almost dying? Something like that might make people reassess their priorities and whether or not they want to be mad about him sharing the love, so to speak, or decide that they want to actually be with him - regardless of whether or not they're the only one.

Something like that would never happen though, I mean imagine the guy getting shot an... wait.