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Takkatakka

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There is no prize for guessing the release date correctly. Even 'bragging rights' will soon be lost in the stampede to play the game. No one will care.
That was not the point of the exercise anyway. The point was simply to give a rough estimation of how long the update takes, which is round about half a year.
 

etool

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Caribdis has given us a quality product in this game so far

allow him/her to keep that up, at their own pace .... we all know when they release it, it will be worth the wait
 

Takkatakka

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Caribdis has given us a quality product in this game so far

allow him/her to keep that up, at their own pace .... we all know when they release it, it will be worth the wait
Yeah, other developer just take about that long for their content as well. 4-6 months is just about as long as it takes for a good quality update.
 

Son of Durin

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Does anyone know, when the new upgrade comes or how far the development is? :)


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but to make it authentic you should have waited 1 or 2 posts first. That way you could have said something about not having time to search. ;)
To both points, what's amusing is that the question comes after the SECOND posting of that update banner. ;)
 
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jocoyo

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The reason I dislike the Dalia scene was because Orion was awake, Dalia specifically yelled Orion's name to see he was there and Orion chose to hide. It would be different if he was actually asleep. But with the way it is written, I felt like the choice to be a creep was a deliberate one and I did not like that.

As for the Eva scene I dont like that the first thing that came to Orion's mind was throwing away Annie's life savings just to get laid. I think it would have been very easy to write a different scene where Orion could have met Eva under different circumstances. The sex scene itself was a very good one - it was one of my favorites in fact because I loved the philosophical conversation he had with her. But I did not like the lead up to it.

As for Eva as a potential side LI, personally I hope not because I feel like 7 girls - 8 counting Calypso is already way too much. I want the existing characters to get more screen time and be better developed.
Nah I get what you mean. I've said it before in this thread, but this idea that "oh those are your own choices, you don't have to make them!" is absurd. The harem route is essentially the only route in this game, losing a girl's affection only creates a slight deviation from the main harem route. Caribdis makes this game with the harem route fully in mind, and he obviously wants players to make these choices.

You have to ogle Dalia in the bathroom to continue her route. All other choices, despite being more intuitive, will close it off. So I understand why you're frustrated with it.
 

quorkboy

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…for example I disliked the MC being a creep and peeping on Dalia in the shower and the scene where the MC goes after Eva immediately after Annie gives him her life savings (I loved the Eva scene itself because of the conversation we had with her but I disliked the part leading up to it and the MC's attitude towards the whole thing).
I also disliked the bathroom creep scene, so I played it as a good guy.

But the scene with Eva…I think that works if you consider that Orion is a teenager who has just been given a bunch of cash and a license to spend time with a hot woman (for a price) with no real world consequences.

The difference between the two is that spying on Dalia establishes him as a creep. But going with Eva establishes him as a horny teenager engaging in something entirely consensual. Annie didn't place any conditions on the money she gave him, so it's difficult to see it as a betrayal of her trust. And it was surely not her life savings. Annie's been playing for a long time. She's probably got a fair stash of money. So his attitude to the gift may have been a little careless, but imo it shows no disrespect for anyone.

The scene with Dalia in the bathroom is on a grey area to me, I mean Orion was cleaning the bathroom and Dalia appeared all of a sudden, Cari could have played it differently like maybe with her already half dressed and leading to a similar ending but overall I didn't consider that so bad it was a cliché typical of porn, while the Eva one puzzled me too a little, not because it wasn't good but because it was too abruptly after Annie went to get the sword.
It could have been played better? Yes, but to consider Orion so negatively? No, I respectfully disagree with you.
It would have been bad if there was the choice to let Annie know about it, that would have been a bad end plain and square, but as was played it was the typical scene that you could find in a cyberpunk, my only complain is that it was just too sudden, at least that's my opinion.:)

P.S. About the Eva scene I still have the impression that it was instead a planned scene by Caribdis that will come back in the future, my opinion is that we will see Eva again and maybe deciding to have sex with her will make her a potential side LI, or an ally for Orion and the girls.
It's a gut feeling nothing more, but the fact that she said that Eternum has a way to make people connect again lead me to this thought.
Yes, Orion was already in there. That's why if you quickly reveal yourself Dalia is fine with it. Honest accident. If you hid and somehow got away with her not knowing you were there and you didn't try to watch her, that's maybe a grey area. But if you hide and spy, I see that as a straight up violation.

The Eva scene felt a bit like it was placed there so that we could have some sex before Orion got close to the girls. If it wasn't for Eva being more interesting than the average side girl, it would have felt completely shallow. Part of my appreciation for it was the hope/expectation that we'd see her again, perhaps outside Eternum. I'm still hoping for that. If it never happens, that diminishes the scene for me. But not completely. I still think it works as exactly the kind of situation a new teenage male player might easily encounter.
 

quorkboy

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You have to ogle Dalia in the bathroom to continue her route. All other choices, despite being more intuitive, will close it off. So I understand why you're frustrated with it.
You do not have to ogle her. I didn't, and am on her route. Unless there's a bug which set a var that wasn't unset by loading an earlier save. I started playing like the typical horndog, but as soon as I got to Dalia's reaction I rethought my approach, decided that was the wrong way to play Eternum, loaded a save, and revealed myself as soon as she entered the bathroom.

Given the general tone of Eternum, I don't see why Caribdis would make ogling Dalia in the bathroom a requirement to be on her path when the approach that works with everyone else is 'treat them well and you can add them to your harem'.
 

Dylan741

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Yes, Orion was already in there. That's why if you quickly reveal yourself Dalia is fine with it. Honest accident. If you hid and somehow got away with her not knowing you were there and you didn't try to watch her, that's maybe a grey area. But if you hide and spy, I see that as a straight up violation.

The Eva scene felt a bit like it was placed there so that we could have some sex before Orion got close to the girls. If it wasn't for Eva being more interesting than the average side girl, it would have felt completely shallow. Part of my appreciation for it was the hope/expectation that we'd see her again, perhaps outside Eternum. I'm still hoping for that. If it never happens, that diminishes the scene for me. But not completely. I still think it works as exactly the kind of situation a new teenage male player might easily encounter.
Agreed that's why I said it was a grey area, some are more lenient with him other less but it's not a straight up bad choice, instead you can opt for revealing yourself and let it be an accident, and if you persist well, you will be kicked twice so it's not exactly a reward for being a creep ( and I would say that he deserve those kicks).
I still think Caribdis did that scene more for the comedy purpose more than anything else, but maybe he underestimated how heavy the scene could have been seen by a lot of peoples, I mean it works to an extent, but at the same time I don't want to belittle the concerns that where raised about.

And again I agree with you, it was surely a somewhat of an obligated scene to put a spicy moment to keep the players good because at the moment there wouldn't be any other possibility to show a sex scene because it was still a building world moment.
But at the same time Caribdis make it something more (keeping open the possibility to Eva's return further in the story). If it will happen I would be more than happy, but as you said if it doesn't it's not a problem since we have a lot of girls to be plenty satisfied with anyway. :)
 

An known

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You do not have to ogle her. I didn't, and am on her route. Unless there's a bug which set a var that wasn't unset by loading an earlier save. I started playing like the typical horndog, but as soon as I got to Dalia's reaction I rethought my approach, decided that was the wrong way to play Eternum, loaded a save, and revealed myself as soon as she entered the bathroom.

Given the general tone of Eternum, I don't see why Caribdis would make ogling Dalia in the bathroom a requirement to be on her path when the approach that works with everyone else is 'treat them well and you can add them to your harem'.
The bathroom part with Dalia has one of the weirdest approach at the game like why did you have to say "I'm stunned with your beauty" to a girl infront of you naked.

It didn't make sense until we dive deep into Dalia's story, and we started to know that Dalia has insecurities with her body (her being insecure to the fact Penelope and Nancy has bigger boobs and better body), and the fact that saying she has a "stunning beauty" will make her self-esteem go higher make that scene makes sense now cause it lightens up her insecurities.

I think Dalia doesn't get compliments as much as Penny and Nancy does and it makes her insecure to the fact that she seems to be the odd one out when it comes to beauty, like everywhere Penny and Nancy go, there's compliments and Dalia is left out.

We see that the characters has different approach and some are weird like with Alex, "she doesn't like to be always complemented on the thing most people complements her" and that's what makes every character special that sometimes the weirdest approach is the only right path for you to follow.

I mean stories sometimes makes no sense until ending so sometimes things seems to be strange at first, Let's just see how Caribdis will let story go through.
 

dolfe67

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An unplanned peek doesn't make you a creep, it's just curiosity. If you do it repeatedly then yes you're a creep. But people have different tolerance.

Furthermore it's a porn game, punishing the player for not being a white knight in every circumstances is counter-productive imo.
 

1tomadeira

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The bathroom part with Dalia has one of the weirdest approach at the game like why did you have to say "I'm stunned with your beauty" to a girl infront of you naked.

It didn't make sense until we dive deep into Dalia's story, and we started to know that Dalia has insecurities with her body (her being insecure to the fact Penelope and Nancy has bigger boobs and better body), and the fact that saying she has a "stunning beauty" will make her self-esteem go higher make that scene makes sense now cause it lightens up her insecurities.

I think Dalia doesn't get compliments as much as Penny and Nancy does and it makes her insecure to the fact that she seems to be the odd one out when it comes to beauty, like everywhere Penny and Nancy go, there's compliments and Dalia is left out.

We see that the characters has different approach and some are weird like with Alex, "she doesn't like to be always complemented on the thing most people complements her" and that's what makes every character special that sometimes the weirdest approach is the only right path for you to follow.

I mean stories sometimes makes no sense until ending so sometimes things seems to be strange at first, Let's just see how Caribdis will let story go through.
It didn't weird me out that much because I was already used to Caribdis writing, so I kinda expected something like that. My only con is that I wished some references were used, I mean, at least in real world a girl would flirt more or be more ashamed for recalling what happened. Or even something different, but for sure they wouldn't act like as nothing happened. A girl wouldn't act towards a guy so normally after they broke into you at a bathroom. Sure they're basicly siblings/childhood friends, as they grew up together as kids, but at the same time, if you imply that both have feelings for each other when grown up, it feels odd that they act like nothing happened afterwards.

Man, even some girls in real life act completly shy after something more erotic, I can't imagine someone acting like nothing happened after being in the bath. I guess due to what happened on the beach that cannot be changed now, but it's probably one of the few things I could see improved.

But at the same time, it's hard to find a good balance between that kind of behaviour and keeping the girl actually likeable for everyone. If Caribdis is good at something, is making all girls extremely likeable. Sure some may have their favorites, but I believe there isn't any girl from the "main heroines" that some player actually dislikes.
 
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Cherubin25

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An unplanned peek doesn't make you a creep, it's just curiosity. If you do it repeatedly then yes you're a creep. But people have different tolerance.

Furthermore it's a porn game, punishing the player for not being a white knight in every circumstances is counter-productive imo.
Exactly, it should not be expected that the MC is always the morally good guy. If we look at OIAL, the MC also did not always do the morally right thing. E.g. pretending to be the Moms therapist to influence her into doing stuff with him. (Yes, after all it is the better choice, but you dont know at this point)

Or in general, Harem-games tend to have a lot of "cheating" involved at the start. Because you have the multiple LIs which dont know that the other LIs are also in a sexual relationship with MC. This is a classic in those kind of games and Eternum is no different. (And in all of them it will resolve to a full Harem)


What made it creepy to me was her calling orion's name - it is not unplanned at that point. But like someone else pointed out previously it was done for comedic effect (orion trying to teleport etc).

Personally I just feel like there was a bit of a tonal shift when it comes to the sex scenes at version 0.1 vs the later versions of the game. While the first update was incredible, it felt a bit more porn like with its approach to sex scenes. I do not feel like that is the case anymore and I really like that. It is a harem game so there will be some porn like aspects but I think the newer scenes fit better within the story/romance progression.
Yeah, because the sex scene in 0.1 was just to have a sex scene. It was not with any of the Main-LIs, because for those it would have been way too early. So quite clear that it feels different.
 
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