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Takkatakka

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The only reason we're different, is because we have an economy, and no longer only care about the most basic things.
Again: No

For one there are very different systems for different animals (mammals or otherwise). Humans wouldn't have males with a lot of females as breeding partners, because that wouldn't be feasible with how long our children take to grow up and how much attention they need. I mean most young animals can walk or run in a matter of days after birth, for humans it takes years (just as an example). So a harem wouldn't be a natural state for humans, because no male could support a bunch of females and their children on his own.
 

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Alex's scene was top notch , damn thas was hot.
Calypso's story , was so cool to read. Like the look of the renders during that story.
And the plot continues to go well . 0.6 was clearly a good update. Thanks to Caribdis and his team to that.

Only "sad" note ... The next update will be on April/May ! That toooooooo far :eek: Luckily, Starfield is out in one month :D

Good week end to all , and forgive my bad English.
Why that long? Knowing his schedule shouldn't it be on Chirstmas?
 

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Same! Jumped off my chair in surprise as I knew exactly what I was listening to. Based on the reactions seems everyone doubted this song's application. But Cari may have acknowledged my choice in scene soundtrack, although I missed my mark on the LI it was being used for unfortunately. Nonetheless, I am more than happy it was used. That scene and this song will now forever hit different.

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I ended up adding the song to my playlist after you posted it, so I listened to it a few times and that's why I recognized it immediately. I'm also glad he ended up using it in the game cuz it's a really nice beat
 
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Why that long? Knowing his schedule shouldn't it be on Chirstmas?
No. first of all, he only gonna start working on the new episode after the official public release of the episode. that will be August 22. so likely, he only start working on 0.7 at the end of August, if we count 5 mounth for development, January is the earliest estimate . but we should not rule out any christmas break either, so I would assume a February is more likely chance, for the first version of 0.7
in short, see you in 2024 :LOL:
 
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Again: No

For one there are very different systems for different animals (mammals or otherwise). Humans wouldn't have males with a lot of females as breeding partners, because that wouldn't be feasible with how long our children take to grow up and how much attention they need. I mean most young animals can walk or run in a matter of days after birth, for humans it takes years (just as an example). So a harem wouldn't be a natural state for humans, because no male could support a bunch of females and their children on his own.
I partly agree there, it would not be sustainable for us on a large scale (ie: the main way to reproduce), not only because of what you stated, but also because throughout history, many harems included family members as well.
But, what I'm trying to convey, is that any man with enough power/resources, will naturally try to create a harem, or swap partners like they change socks.

The only thing I am trying to convey, is that it is a natural reaction to want to have as many female partners as possible for a male :) Harems simply happens to be the most time saving way, as you can get a lot more younger and fertile females within a much smaller time frame. Otherwise, you'll have to do a Leonardo, and dump them once they get a bit too old, but essentially, you're wasting years that way.

For females, while it remains true to want to have kids for the vast majority of them, having multiple partners serves little purpose, since they can only get pregnant once every year or so (probably a bit less even since they'd usually want to rest in between.)

So yes, Harems are a power trip to some extent, but it is only driven by the natural urge for men to try and have kids.

Hope I explained myself better there, I'm not implying Harems would be the "best way" to propagate our species :)
 

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Yes and no.

It is a bit deeper than that. Normal men have the innate desire to procreate. Having more than one female, ensures higher chances of heirs/more heirs.

In nature, single life long partners, are an extremely rare thing. Most mammals/animals, fuck as soon as it is heat season. Humans are different in that, since we've got a morality based societies, with various opinions and culture on that. In some culture having multiple wives, is completely normal. For the males, it usually brings both standing, and heirs. For females, a man able to sustain several women and kids, is usually a good bet as far as needs and safety goes.

You've also got to add the fact that not everyone is a good breeding candidate as well. The weakest males, will usually have a much tougher time getting laid. Mankind is once again different in that aspect, since weak men can become powerful if they've got enough money. We're probably the only mammals were the weak can actually strive and reproduce.

But, this also means that having multiple partners, is fairly normal if the weak ones ain't getting as much, since more partners are available, the strongest male will have to breed them as well, otherwise your species would decline pretty quickly, unless like humans, you allow the weakest to reproduce as well.

So no, harems aren't really a "power trip", it's more akin to a natural effect for the species propagation :)
Sure, it's sexually arousing, but anything arousing you sexually, is in essence, designed to help propagate the species and breed better/more often.

One could make an argument that cuckhold/sharing fetishes, is an adaptation of this as well. The weakest men leaving stronger ones breed their females, because they innhately know it's better for the species as a whole. Maybe a bit far fetched, but when you see how weak most men are today, and how much this trend since to be increasing, it's difficult not to believe it to be at the very least, a possibility.
Very nice read, and I actually agree with everything you said, I should have been clearer in that, I think harem games appeal to that nature, but are way too easy, no challenges whatsoever, a 'power trip/fantasy' in that the player has every girl fawn in front of him, they are 'his', usually without doing anything other than being there, and usually MCs are good looking, smart and charming, and/or have a godly cock, and/or girls have no real depth other than to please the 'alpha male'.

Nothing to do with real life, especially not with the state of our 'civilized world'. A quote I like, 'Strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times, hard times create strong men.' We're right in the middle, that's why those harem games are that appealing to many people, they live their fantasies in them cause they of course can't in the real world.

Now, would I like to have a harem surround me in real life ? The animal part of me would obviously say yes, but the moral part wouldn't, and I need that bit of 'realism' (as much as there can be in an AVN) in the games I play. Or, they need to be very well-written, and have character development, not just a bland meet'n fuck type I'll easily forget.

I'd say that's why I love Caribdis games, cause while it contradicts my moral stance, the writing and development parts (which are what I look for the most in AVNs, believe it or not, 'I play for the story') are great, on top of the very refined renders he treats us with.

Just in case, I don't want to offend anyone here, cause Eternum is fucking awesome, and Caribdis is a cool dude who clearly loves what he does.
 

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Very nice read, and I actually agree with everything you said, I should have been clearer in that, I think harem games appeal to that nature, but are way too easy, no challenges whatsoever, a 'power trip/fantasy' in that the player has every girl fawn in front of him, they are 'his', usually without doing anything other than being there, and usually MCs are good looking, smart and charming, and/or have a godly cock, and/or girls have no real depth other than to please the 'alpha male'.

Nothing to do with real life, especially not with the state of our 'civilized world'. A quote I like, 'Strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times, hard times create strong men.' We're right in the middle, that's why those harem games are that appealing to many people, they live their fantasies in them cause they of course can't in the real world.

Now, would I like to have a harem surround me in real life ? The animal part of me would obviously say yes, but the moral part wouldn't, and I need that bit of 'realism' (as much as there can be in an AVN) in the games I play. Or, they need to be very well-written, and have character development, not just a bland meet'n fuck type I'll easily forget.

I'd say that's why I love Caribdis games, cause while it contradicts my moral stance, the writing and development parts (which are what I look for the most in AVNs, believe it or not, 'I play for the story') are great, on top of the very refined renders he treats us with.

Just in case, I don't want to offend anyone here, cause Eternum is fucking awesome, and Caribdis is a cool dude who clearly loves what he does.
Yes, AVNs do miss the mark on Harems quite often, but, we need to remember that if "nothing happens", the sexual aspect of the game decreases as well. Concessions need to be made. Otherwise, you end up with slow burn games, and well, those can have ultra nice stories, if there's no sex, for an AVN, well... part of the supporters are eventually going to go somewhere else.

In real life, I couldn't deal with a Harem. One woman nagging is already more than enough, 4, 5, 9, 10... would be unbearable for most men. Which I guess is why every single known large harems, separated the women from their owner, guess some things do no change with time *chuckles*.

I'll agree that Caridbis so far, does seem to hold a decent pace, and they girls don't just fall into your lap as well, without it being grindy either (the other side of harem games I guess.) He does seem to do it just right so far.
 

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No. first of all, he only gonna start working on the new episode after the official public release of the episode. that will be August 22. so likely, he only start working on 0.7 at the end of August, if we count 5 mounth for development, January is the earliest estimate . but we should not rule out any christmas break either, so I would assume a February is more likely chance, for the first version of 0.7
in short, see you in 2024 :LOL:
Quite interesting, seeing as 0.5 demon lord tier release was on January 19, that's 6 months and 9 days between it and 0.6 release on the same tier, assuming that, i'd say we may see a January 2024 release for 0.7 or February if there's a "christmas break"
 
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TBH i tho the full "plot" scene was gonna be like mc + dalia but then ALEX jump in n yup one of the best "plot" sequence scene


tho i kinda curious what 0.7 opening gonna look like, after the ending of the 0.6

is it gonna like 0.4 to 0.5 or is it gonna take a whole new turn

cant wait to see the next "plot"
 

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TBH i tho the full "plot" scene was gonna be like mc + dalia but then ALEX jump in n yup one of the best "plot" sequence scene


tho i kinda curious what 0.7 opening gonna look like, after the ending of the 0.6

is it gonna like 0.4 to 0.5 or is it gonna take a whole new turn

cant wait to see the next "plot"
First we have to see how the ending of 0.6 will be resolved.
 

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The rating system here is not really reliable. Most games, unless they truly suck, will have mostly positive rating (3.5+)

Negative ratings, are usually pretty difficult to keep up on this site (especially with some developpers where negative reviews seem to be reported very quickly, but that is probably a total coincidence of course) as the rules on rating games in here, are so weird. I've had many negative ratings removed, effectively increasing the score of those games, and I'm pretty certain I'm not the only one like that.

That put aside, with the biggest/popular games, the weighted rating is more accurate as the larger amount of ratings and so on balance things out, mostly.

It is quite an achievement to have, in effect, the top game, done with Illusion's stuff as well. Not many manage to do that. That alone really speaks volume about the game's quality.
That's cool and all but ... I don't really know what that has to do with what I said. I don't think anyone trusts reviews on this site that much. I just figured when someone says "best game", it means there's some kind of general consensus and not really stemming from the ratings on this site.
Even my personal top 5 is subjective. They're simply what I like the most. Although, I do stay away from anything rated below a 3 as a rule of thumb so I still use it for something. It's just from my experience, anything that massively disliked is disliked for a good reason.

So what is your top 5 now?
I don't want to get too off-topic but four of them are in my signature. I'll probably organize it later to make it more clear. Eternum is definitely there. I'm still deciding what no. 5 should be. Used to be BADIK but that was before ep 9.
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That's why I like Eternum so much. Sure there are still a good amount of tired tropes and just straight-up memes (not saying I don't like the jokes because I do) but the world-building is pretty creative and is brought to life through this medium. It's that perfect marriage between a fun idea and knowing how to utilize the different aspects of a VN that I always appreciate.
 
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