VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[NadaMucho]

Nova's mom wants her to use protection. doesn't really mean that she wants it too. she is older than MC, she is her own person, she can refuse. she made her decision. and honestly, it felt more like she was pranking MC.

Nova: Mmmh... I c-can't. S-Sorry. I want to, b-but I can't.
MC: E-Eh? What? What happened?
Nova: I promised my mom we wouldn't do it without a condom.
MC: W-What? (his favorite word)
MC: But (second favorite word)... I d-didn't bring any. Do you have any here?
Nova: N-No.
MC: Then...
MC: Shit, p-please don't bail on me now.
Nova: ...
MC: Do you really want to stop?
Nova: ...
MC: What if... I just make sure to finish outside?
MC: Would you want to continue then... ?
Nova: ...
Nova: ...

That's a pretty subtle (and one sided) prank. So, as a father, a brother and a partner if some guy didn't immediately agree after her very first line of dialog then he's gonna pay the price. If you don't see any whiny, self serving manipulation in that dialog then I respect your perspective but I obviously don't agree.

 

[Ass prefer]

Nova: Mmmh... I c-can't. S-Sorry. I want to, b-but I can't.
MC: E-Eh? What? What happened?
Nova: I promised my mom we wouldn't do it without a condom.
MC: W-What? (his favorite word)
MC: But (second favorite word)... I d-didn't bring any. Do you have any here?
Nova: N-No.
MC: Then...
MC: Shit, p-please don't bail on me now.
Nova: ...
MC: Do you really want to stop?
Nova: ...
MC: What if... I just make sure to finish outside?
MC: Would you want to continue then... ?
Nova: ...
Nova: ...

That's a pretty subtle (and one sided) prank. So, as a father, a brother and a partner if some guy didn't immediately agree after her very first line of dialog then he's gonna pay the price. If you don't see any whiny, self serving manipulation in that dialog then I respect your perspective but I obviously don't agree.

I imagine that somewhere at the dinner table, Nova's mother starts a conversation that dick will enter her only with protection

 

[Ass prefer]

Nova: Mmmh... I c-can't. S-Sorry. I want to, b-but I can't.
MC: E-Eh? What? What happened?
Nova: I promised my mom we wouldn't do it without a condom.
MC: W-What? (his favorite word)
MC: But (second favorite word)... I d-didn't bring any. Do you have any here?
Nova: N-No.
MC: Then...
MC: Shit, p-please don't bail on me now.
Nova: ...
MC: Do you really want to stop?
Nova: ...
MC: What if... I just make sure to finish outside?
MC: Would you want to continue then... ?
Nova: ...
Nova: ...

That's a pretty subtle (and one sided) prank. So, as a father, a brother and a partner if some guy didn't immediately agree after her very first line of dialog then he's gonna pay the price. If you don't see any whiny, self serving manipulation in that dialog then I respect your perspective but I obviously don't agree.

I guess you absolutely don't like Nova. And you also consider her a manipulator who hides behind the fact that she is a woman
Perhaps you think too much, as they say, where there is a lot of knowledge, a lot of grief

 

[HiP1]

Nova: Mmmh... I c-can't. S-Sorry. I want to, b-but I can't.
MC: E-Eh? What? What happened?
Nova: I promised my mom we wouldn't do it without a condom.
MC: W-What? (his favorite word)
MC: But (second favorite word)... I d-didn't bring any. Do you have any here?
Nova: N-No.
MC: Then...
MC: Shit, p-please don't bail on me now.
Nova: ...
MC: Do you really want to stop?
Nova: ...
MC: What if... I just make sure to finish outside?
MC: Would you want to continue then... ?
Nova: ...
Nova: ...

That's a pretty subtle (and one sided) prank. So, as a father, a brother and a partner if some guy didn't immediately agree after her very first line of dialog then he's gonna pay the price. If you don't see any whiny, self serving manipulation in that dialog then I respect your perspective but I obviously don't agree.

dude, this all started by her saying she wants to fuck, and him to be her first. if condoms were important to her, it would have been the next thing she specified. you can go with "oops, she forgot", but no, her mother just reminded her, the conversation is still very fresh in her mind, and she has a massive memory. letting it go up to the decisive moment is basically either a joke, or an excuse born from nervousness.
sure, MCs in other games would have been more understanding about it, like "we can stop any time you want", etc. but this one still asks for her consent. he can add whiny arguments/excuses to convince her, but she already made her mind long before that.
i'm also a father, brother and partner... the way you phrased it, it felt like you removed all agency, intelligence, responsibility and ability to make their own decision from the women in your life. it's not all about the guy manipulating them.

 

[Elhemeer]

Plus, in the new update, Nova "asks" the MC to use a condom and he talks her out of it. Once again putting his personal desire over everyone and everything else. Jerk.

Honestly, I think this is part of the point of the MC's progression in the last couple updates, one that had a pretty definitive culmination -- and hopefully turning point, not just "do-over" -- in the 0.7 cliffhanger.

 

[NadaMucho]

dude, this all started by her saying she wants to fuck, and him to be her first. if condoms were important to her, it would have been the next thing she specified. you can go with "oops, she forgot", but no, her mother just reminded her, the conversation is still very fresh in her mind, and she has a massive memory. letting it go up to the decisive moment is basically either a joke, or an excuse born from nervousness.
sure, MCs in other games would have been more understanding about it, like "we can stop any time you want", etc. but this one still asks for her consent. he can add whiny arguments/excuses to convince her, but she already made her mind long before that.
i'm also a father, brother and partner... the way you phrased it, it felt like you removed all agency, intelligence, responsibility and ability to make their own decision from the women in your life. it's not all about the guy manipulating them.

My post and comments are about the MC's behavior. Not Nova. Answer me this... in the dialog I quoted... was the MC looking out for his partner or himself?

 

[Redd23]

damn ignore list is getting longer and longer each day...

 

[HiP1]

My post and comments are about the MC's behavior. Not Nova. Answer me this... in the dialog I quoted... was the MC looking out for his partner or himself?

both. why can't it be both ? it's a dialog. Nova's behavior is also important here.
she has every opportunity to stop it. she still wants it and makes her own decision. getting convinced can also be a turn on for some.
sure MC can be a selfish dumb douche at times. but you didn't choose the best example here.

MC: Do you really want to stop?
...
MC: Would you want to continue then... ?
...
Nova: *Playfully* Would you tell my mom?
...
MC: Mmmm... not really, no. You'll have to be more explicit.
MC: What exactly do you want me to do?
Nova: *Whispering* I want you to fuck me.
Nova: *Whispering* Now.

 

[Ass prefer]

damn ignore list is getting longer and longer each day...

I hope I'm there In your little gay list

 

[Woketard]

Spoiler: I MEAN... I'M A BOOB-MAN. BUT HOLY SH*T DALIA!

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[sexypeanut]

Spoiler: I MEAN... I'M A BOOB-MAN. BUT HOLY SH*T DALIA!

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Best butt in the entire game

 

[NadaMucho]

sure MC can be a selfish dumb douche at times. but you didn't choose the best example here.

So you agree with me but you are criticizing my example. Whatever flips your switch man.

Oh and BTW just because a girl wants to fuck doesn't mean she wants to fuck your unprotected dick. Especially when you are in the dominant position and exerting steady pressure while also forgetting to mention that you are also having unprotected sex with six other girls. Sounds like the situation her mother warned her about.

 

[Ass prefer]

So you agree with me but you are criticizing my example. Whatever flips your switch man.

Oh and BTW just because a girl wants to fuck doesn't mean she wants to fuck your unprotected dick. Especially when you are in the dominant position and exerting steady pressure while also forgetting to mention that you are also having unprotected sex with six other girls. Sounds like the situation her mother warned her about.

I still can't figure out what you really want to say? That MC is a masculine toxic bastard fucking defenseless girls? Or is it that all girls are dumb and just victims?

 

[Opa Wants]

Does anyone know the definition of HAREM?

 

[Ass prefer]

Does anyone know the definition of HAREM?

only insanity, brother

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

I would rate the lewd scenes with alex still on top

1. alex
2. penny
3. Nova

Just rating the scenes and not the girls and yeah they are close to each other in terms of quality.

Can´t wait to see it. Alex, Nova and Nancy are my "choices" so far, and I can´t complain about what I´ve got with them. If the Nova scene is on par with Alex, I might have a heart attack.
My only gripe is the ending. I would have "finished" elsewhere.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

IIRC, Caribdis got a new guy to help with the animations and that was the result. I also agree; it took me by surprise when I watched it for the first time.
Been replaying it for some time since then!

All hail the new guy. I hope he´s the one doing the lewd scenes from now on, because he really knows what he´s doing.
I will definitely replay that one.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Unless you're doing something wrong...
(You should take the Pendant not the X-ray glasses)

If your character dies in the recent update, that means you're doing something wrong

Well, I can´t know something is wrong until I do it, right? At least that one. What does the pendant do?
And btw, if that´s true, then I´m pretty sure the MC will die in my game. I´m always thinking I made a bad choice somewhere.

 

[Krytax123]

Well, I can´t know something is wrong until I do it, right? At least that one. What does the pendant do?
And btw, if that´s true, then I´m pretty sure the MC will die in my game. I´m always thinking I made a bad choice somewhere.

Just start from the beginning (or an earlier safe) and press tab until where youre are again. Pendant is kinda important and imo its not really worth to play eternum with the "wrong choices", try to keep all the girls routes open too

the pendants keeps you and a li from dying in eternum which lets both keeps their levels/stuff

 

[HiP1]

So you agree with me but you are criticizing my example. Whatever flips your switch man.

Oh and BTW just because a girl wants to fuck doesn't mean she wants to fuck your unprotected dick. Especially when you are in the dominant position and exerting steady pressure while also forgetting to mention that you are also having unprotected sex with six other girls. Sounds like the situation her mother warned her about.

I agree that MC's behavior is problematic at times. but for you, it seems to be at all times.

he is not in a dominant position, he is just on top. she can refuse, she can move away, push him away, kick him in the nuts...
he only had unprotected sex with 3 others on Earth. not 6. the remaining ones stayed at foreplay/oral. and for Luna, her main scene is in their astral/eternum bodies.

so you want to pull in realistic issues in a fantasy story? who says MC isn't testing his blood off screen several times a week ?
who says it's not the girls who could contaminate MC? who says the girls are not on the pill? or have other contraceptive methods? morning-after pill is a thing too. might be other methods in that sci-fi world.
again, you're removing agency from the girls, they could also decide not to fuck him, and more importantly, they could just ask him what his relationship is with the others, and stop hiding their own from the others.
if you flip it around, MC is just a single guy trying to find a nice relationship with a girl he likes, but every girl he tries to engage in doesn't want to take it seriously or actively asks him to keep it a secret. so keeping it casual for now is his only option aside from stopping it with everyone.
the only one that states her feelings out loud is Penny to Nova only. Alex does it to an unconscious Dalia so it doesn't count, but at least she is acknowledging it to herself now. Dalia half admits it to Alex but doesn't name MC because she is ashamed of him.
Nancy is the only that knows every girl likes MC.
Lust and feelings affect everybody's decision making, not just the MC's.