VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

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One giant spoiler giving my reactions and thoughts as I progress through the story. Day 3

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erd12345 said:
Could Orion have been inspired by El Coyote's hologram stunt and seen the value in being in two places at once? If Orion somehow used the artifact at any point before being shot...he could technically still be alive...in Eternum.
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Cari mentioned on Discord that he's not planning on using the artifact for anything main story related, so don't count on it.
 
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Siegbrieve said:
That's clear that it's not a game, but it's a different universe with different laws of physics. In Eternun there is magic and dozens of other things that have no manifestation in the real world. For me, I really wish Eternun's physical laws didn't spill over into the real world and that the MC didn't have superhuman powers in the real world.
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hzjujk said:
The idea of different universes would be nonsense. Not only would the "creator" have found a way to transfer information from one universe to another, which seems completely impossible when you look at the information paradox of black holes. But if you take the theories about Orion's miraculous healing by transferring it to a "magical universe", the "creator" must also have somehow managed to transfer matter from one universe to another and back.
Apart from the fact that if it really was Calypso who "transferred" Orion and healed him with magic, the question of the interface would have to be clarified. How should a "magical being" interact with a "non-magical being"?
How should a "magical being" "eat" its way through protocols, source code and firewalls, a being that probably still believes that in its world the sun revolves around the planet. By Calypso meditating?
What should such a transfer look like that Calypso initiates. Orion is broken down on a quantum level, transferred in the form of source code, i.e. as pure information, and then recreated atom by atom in a world without technology. Because that's what "teleporting" means to me.
I'm not saying that Cari can't write it like that, because it's all just pure fantasy.
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The simplest explanation, which avoids almost all logical and physical pitfalls, is that Orion realizes that there is no real world, that everything is ultimately just information. Like in the Matrix, only there "real" people from a "real" world were trapped in a virtual dream.
In Orion's world, everything is virtual. If you allow yourself to think that, anything is possible. Teleportation, miraculous healing, "magical" worlds that can interact with "non-magical" worlds, even the "impossible" journey between universes is possible.
Otherwise, you can throw any attempt at a logical explanation that includes, for example, a healing by Calyso, in the trash.
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To be fair, OiaL was set to be a lot sillier than Eternum is now. Eternum is a lot more down to Earth, but it is still meant to be the same Universe and there is still crazy stuff happening, like Luna's powers for example. And as far as we know, magic might also work in what we would call the "real world", considering Orion was able to travel between the real world and Eternum without technically connecting to it.
 
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Takkatakka said:
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Spoiler tag this as we got a new player here going through Eternum atm. :whistle:

Also, Eternum's less silly partly because of how the story is told. OIAL was more Goonies/Scooby Doo-style adventure (with the mystery angle eventually taking a backseat around 0.5), while Eternum is more of a mystery-adventure story set in a Ready Player One-esque environment. The former's bound to be a lot more ridiculous compared to the latter.

Regardless, yes, it's still set in the same universe, so they ought to share the same elements found in said setting for consistency's sake.
 
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Ah, so we're in a universe where magic exists in the "real world". Well that explains everything!
You could have just said that everyone here is working from this unspoken premise. I just took people here too literally when they talked about the "real world".
My mistakes! Move on!
 
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Steuan said:
Amen to that, brother. (y)

Penny, Nancy or Calypso... It is so sad we haven't seen any of them in corsets by now.

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Nancy might find that tight of a corset too constricting and Caly might find the thing too demeaning (and possibly nuke Orion if he presses the issue further).

Penny tho? With that fetish of hers?

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*BLAH BLAH BLAH INTENSIFIES*
 
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