VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

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So its seeems like the elven dimension is unlike the others and maybe more like earth? Maybe even the origin if its true that immortals came from the elven dimension, question is when they got to earth.

What i dont understand if all these servers are real world is: Whats up with the magic?

If Ulyssess is possible to give "astral projections" via the implant powers like annie's ... stuff like the xenomorphs should never turn out to be a real treat, no?

Thats, in a way, way sicker than control of npcs/dead people. And its kinda confusing for me, how does this tech work? Unlike the "servers" someone would have to "created" this system with people being able to obtain magic powers and it has to be some tech or am i wrong?

How can the founder not have unlimited power if he is able to give all "players" kinda godlike powers (and able to take them away like when they die). I feel like there something i dont understand :LOL:
 
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That is simply how it has to go in a harem game with 7 (+Calypso) LIs. If he would try to cram every LI into every upgrade, each would get so little time that it would often feel forced as well.

And I personally liked the bit with Alex, because it was very different to the other parts of the game. It's good to finally see more the differences between the girls and what effect those differences have on their relationship with Orion.
 
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Krytax123 said:
So its seeems like the elven dimension is unlike the others and maybe more like earth? Maybe even the origin if its true that immortals came from the elven dimension, question is when they got to earth.

What i dont understand if all these servers are real world is: Whats up with the magic?

If Ulyssess is possible to give "astral projections" via the implant powers like annie's ... stuff like the xenomorphs should never turn out to be a real treat, no?

Thats, in a way, way sicker than control of npcs/dead people. And its kinda confusing for me, how does this tech work? Unlike the "servers" someone would have to "created" this system with people being able to obtain magic powers and it has to be some tech or am i wrong?

How can the founder not have unlimited power if he is able to give all "players" kinda godlike powers (and able to take them away like when they die). I feel like there something i dont understand :LOL:
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It's possible that the "servers" that Eternum (the VRMMO) has are worlds that are already dead so it's easier to lay claim to it. The worlds that're inhabited on the other hand are like the world Orion and co come from and H'yliar, the latter implied to be outside the Founder's influence.

Based on what we know, every server has "rules" of sorts which allow certain things to be possible. For instance, some servers allow magic, while some don't. I don't think the Founder or Ulysses made that system, but rather that's just the rules of that particular reality (just as how our reality has "rules" or "laws," like gravity having a constant speed), and that the only way to break them is to utilize items or magic that can "overrule" the rules of that reality (such as Orion's powers and the Weapons of Atlas).

As for how astral projections can cast magic...well a projection is technically a being of Eternum, and beings of Eternum are shown to have affinity to doing feats not limited by the rules imposed by one's physical body. My current theory is that a projection essentially "mimics" what an inhabitant of a server would be like, from the abilities that an inhabitant of said server would have down to their form (i.e. Nova's and Alex's projections being Pixar-fied in the Pixar server). This, however, doesn't apply if you bring your physical body in Eternum, as your body is still bound by the "rules" and "laws" of where your body came from (the real world), and not the "rules" and "laws" of the server your physical body is in (unlike the case of projections). And before you ask, yes, this includes the case of Orion...but then again, it's been foreshadowed for a while that his body isn't exactly "normal" to begin with.

As for the xenomorphs being a threat...well, the "threat" that they pose as explained by the story isn't so much as an existential threat and more like a threat where their sheer numbers would eventually render servers unplayable for the non-combatants. Not to mention this would cause issues with Ulysses trying to maintain the "masquerade" of Eternum being a VRMMO. And that's something the Founder wouldn't let slide since he'll want to maintain it until all the gems are found and collected by the millions of players searching for them at the moment.

Finally, with regards to the Founder...well, it should be pretty obvious by now that there's likely more to him wanting the gems other than for gaining godhood or divinity, especially since William never really did elaborate why giving the gems to the Founder will be "the end." I'm sure we'll eventually find that out, along with how the Founder intends to use the gems (or learn what they're really for).
 
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It's possible that the "servers" that Eternum (the VRMMO) has are worlds that are already dead so it's easier to lay claim to it. The worlds that're inhabited on the other hand are like the world Orion and co come from and H'yliar, the latter implied to be outside the Founder's influence.

Based on what we know, every server has "rules" of sorts which allow certain things to be possible. For instance, some servers allow magic, while some don't. I don't think the Founder or Ulysses made that system, but rather that's just the rules of that particular reality (just as how our reality has "rules" or "laws," like gravity having a constant speed), and that the only way to break them is to utilize items or magic that can "overrule" the rules of that reality (such as Orion's powers and the Weapons of Atlas).

As for how astral projections can cast magic...well a projection is technically a being of Eternum, and beings of Eternum are shown to have affinity to doing feats not limited by the rules imposed by one's physical body. My current theory is that a projection essentially "mimics" what an inhabitant of a server would be like, from the abilities that an inhabitant of said server would have down to their form (i.e. Nova's and Alex's projections being Pixar-fied in the Pixar server). This, however, doesn't apply if you bring your physical body in Eternum, as your body is still bound by the "rules" and "laws" of where your body came from (the real world), and not the "rules" and "laws" of the server your physical body is in (unlike the case of projections). And before you ask, yes, this includes the case of Orion...but then again, it's been foreshadowed for a while that his body isn't exactly "normal" to begin with.

As for the xenomorphs being a threat...well, the "threat" that they pose as explained by the story isn't so much as an existential threat and more like a threat where their sheer numbers would eventually render servers unplayable for the non-combatants. Not to mention this would cause issues with Ulysses trying to maintain the "masquerade" of Eternum being a VRMMO. And that's something the Founder wouldn't let slide since he'll want to maintain it until all the gems are found and collected by the millions of players searching for them at the moment.

Finally, with regards to the Founder...well, it should be pretty obvious by now that there's likely more to him wanting the gems other than for gaining godhood or divinity, especially since William never really did elaborate why giving the gems to the Founder will be "the end." I'm sure we'll eventually find that out, along with how the Founder intends to use the gems (or learn what they're really for).
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I mean ... yes but ... no?

What im talking about is - lets say its as you implied - and some worlds allow people to have magic. So Annie has powerful Magic on Ion and is able to nuke entire countrys.

So she trains and whenever she is in a world with similar rules - allowing magic - she has access to these part of her powers as its something coming from herself.

But if this would be the case, why/how do they lose their powers when they die and are lvl 1 again? Thats the conusing part for me. The levels and everything are aguably all just made up by the implant/founder/ulysess but if the magic isnt connected to that why do they lose their powers when dead?

Dalia and Nova were both bad examples as they dont have any magical abilities and rely on their real life abilitys.

Maybe the implant has some kind of restriction enabled? Like annie would always (im magic worlds) be able to use this kind of power but if the implant sets her at level 1, her power gets restriced? I dunno ..

Btw. maybe Orion would have discovered his powers way sooner if he would have joined eternum just a day sooner :LOL:

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great foreshadowing :WeSmart:
 
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Almost 10gb of download? I think it's time to start and split in seasons, or to add the option to download a patch that adds the new parts. Other games do this so it should be possible, but I have no idea if it's simple or complicated.
 
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