VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[mike12013]

real-world RP

this made me laugh

rest of your post is spot on. At that point of the story, Dalia is incredibly self conscious, low on confidence, of course Orion is going to compliment her and try and make her feel better about herself. I've been that situation a million times with multiple girls, romantic or not.

Does it probably border on love bombing, it can be argued, but he's also trying to show a person who he cares about as a person (not just someone he wants to fuck) how harsh she is being on herself.

It is also a porn game, that'll end up with 6 women being happy to share one male, based around a video game that it isn't just a video game, so if the dialogue isn't exactly realistic, life goes on

 

[Maccabbee]

this made me laugh

rest of your post is spot on. At that point of the story, Dalia is incredibly self conscious, low on confidence, of course Orion is going to compliment her and try and make her feel better about herself. I've been that situation a million times with multiple girls, romantic or not.

Does it probably border on love bombing, it can be argued, but he's also trying to show a person who he cares about as a person (not just someone he wants to fuck) how harsh she is being on herself.

It is also a porn game, that'll end up with 6 women being happy to share one male, based around a video game that it isn't just a video game, so if the dialogue isn't exactly realistic, life goes on

Yeah, not to mention that Dalia was his childhood best friend, before he moved to England. And not only is it a porn game, it's specifically a Harem porn game. I don't make the rules, I just live in them.

 

[mike12013]

Yeah, not to mention that Dalia was his childhood best friend, before he moved to England. And not only is it a porn game, it's specifically a Harem porn game. I don't make the rules, I just live in them.

I give Harem games an incredibly loose leash. Does it have fun characters, a decent plot and decent H-scenes, that's enough for me lmao

 

[sexypeanut]

Dev does the story (which is already outlined from beginning to end) and main renders, tho animations are now handled by a sole animator named Dread (came in during 0.6 and helped animate the Alex scene, went full time in 0.7 and has been animating almost all scenes since).

AFAIK, he started working in 0.5. Dalia's beach BJ was the first one with his involvement

 

[MWPA78]

Here's another, kinder, expression of my opinion of your post. If you've ever actually had relationships with girls (when you're young) or women (as an adult), in order to score real-world RP you need to be kind, show that you care, connect with them on an emotional and intellectual level (in order to get them in bed or into your life). Relationships are made that way.

It's not just with women, either. If you make male friends, at any age, you've got to relate to them, and if you don't they won't be friends for long. It's not "simping." It's socializing.

Whats the difference between simping and being kind? The motivation. Doing it to get sex.

Whats the difference between whiteknighting and helping? The motivation. Doing it to get sex.

I'd love a MC who does lots of the second kind (Cosy Cafe MC is like that), but Eternum MC's behaviour so far seems fully motivated by wanting to get sex.

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[Maccabbee]

Whats the difference between simping and being kind? The motivation. Doing it to get sex.

Whats the difference between whiteknighting and helping? The motivation. Doing it to get sex.

I'd love a MC who does lots of the second kind (Cosy Cafe MC is like that), but Eternum MC's behaviour so far seems fully motivated by wanting to get sex.

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Only when you're playing him, bro. That's a reflection on you, not the game. I have wholesome, loving sex with my whole harem of waifus in this game. The motivation is because you care about them, AND you want sex with them. How can you not? They're gorgeous, and you can fix all their problems (mostly).

 

[MWPA78]

Here's another, kinder, expression of my opinion of your post. If you've ever actually had relationships with girls (when you're young) or women (as an adult), in order to score real-world RP you need to be kind, show that you care, connect with them on an emotional and intellectual level (in order to get them in bed or into your life). Relationships are made that way.

It's not just with women, either. If you make male friends, at any age, you've got to relate to them, and if you don't they won't be friends for long. It's not "simping." It's socializing.

This for example will make a girl vomit internally:

Then it continues with reading all these messages on his phone. Constant buttering them up in hope to get sex. Penelope: "Which picture do you like more?" Orion: "Every picture looks great if such an awesome woman is in it."

Because its simping. Any confident guy would probably tease her a bit about something funny in the picture. ("Stop sending me pictures of your childhood toys." Or whatever. Like you didn't even notice her blatantly showing you her half naked body AGAIN.) She'd still feel that you care about her, but you are playful about it, and it shows her that you are not afraid to risk offending her - that you are not needy. Thats why women say they like guys who make them laugh - its about cocky teasing. Not buttering them up like a cringe guy that desperately wants sex.

 

[Maccabbee]

This for example will make a girl vomit internally:



Because its simping. Any confident guy would probably tease her a bit about something funny in the picture. ("Stop sending me pictures of your childhood toys." Or whatever. Like you didn't even notice her blatantly showing you her half naked body AGAIN.) She'd still feel that you care about her, but you are playful about it, and it shows her that you are not afraid to risk offending her - that you are not needy. Thats why women say they like guys who make them laugh - its about cocky teasing. Not buttering them up like a cringe guy that desperately wants sex.

Maybe this just isn't your game? Find something that brings you joy instead of frustration.

 

[MWPA78]

Maybe this just isn't your game? Find something that brings you joy instead of frustration.

I like many parts of the game, its nicely made, but the MC makes me curse it. May skip more.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Looks like someone has been playing too many games where the MC is the tough guy who dominates situations and puts women in their place and doesn't suck up to pussy, well... well....

Instead of continuing to criticize, you can just stop playing and tolerate such Mc, right? Think again, no one will die from this.

 

[MWPA78]

Looks like someone has been playing too many games where the MC is the tough guy who dominates situations and puts women in their place and doesn't suck up to pussy

I wish

 

[DETROIT123_io]

Just had the penny scene in 0.7 and wow it was amazing , when she said " BREAK ME" , i felt goosebumps . I think she is the hottest woman after nancy in terms of sexiness . And Wow the animation and boob physics were amazing . The animation keeps getting better . I just hope some choking play was involved in rough scenes like this .

 

[insanity10k]

Only when you're playing him, bro. That's a reflection on you, not the game. I have wholesome, loving sex with my whole harem of waifus in this game. The motivation is because you care about them, AND you want sex with them. How can you not? They're gorgeous, and you can fix all their problems (mostly).

Exactly! This entire page has shocked me. I've only ever seen people praise Orion Richards as a protagonist, for the same reason people here seem to be criticizing him. I always liked how down-to-Earth, and reasonable Orion is, and how he's just a genuinely level-headed, courteous, reasonable guy. He's may be a fictional character, but the dude is an inspiration for me. Same goes for Kei Hahn (his last name isn't confirmed but I have reasons to believe it's Hahn) from My Bully is My Lover for similar reasons. We don't talk about Kei Dietrich from Sicae, though. That guy can go to hell.

Honestly I don't know what the people here are on about. Orion is a good guy, and I can't believe there's people who don't like him for that.

 

[Finuee]

There's only actually one person arguing against Orion, as far as I can see. And I'd advise against nourishing trolls.

 

[Maccabbee]

Well, to be fair, he does go from beta-ish to alpha-chad until

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for being an overconfident asshole, but still, yeah, he's a great character.

 

[insanity10k]

Well, to be fair, he does go from beta-ish to alpha-chad until

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for being an overconfident asshole, but still, yeah, he's a great character.

And that's another thing I like about Orion! He's not a perfect, flawless, invincible hero either. He's human, and he has lessons to learn, and mistakes to improve from. He has depth, and he has things keeping him in place. Caribdis made the right choice having that happen to Orion. It gave him a lesson more AVN protagonists ought to learn. Once again, Orion Richards and Kei Hahn are some of the only AVN protagonists I genuinely admire, because they're written to be actually good dudes. Y'know?

 

[insanity10k]

There's only actually one people arguing against Orion, as far as I can see. And I'd advise against nourishing trolls.

Eh, yeah, that's true. You've got a point. Still wack, though.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Exactly! This entire page has shocked me. I've only ever seen people praise Orion Richards as a protagonist, for the same reason people here seem to be criticizing him. I always liked how down-to-Earth, and reasonable Orion is, and how he's just a genuinely level-headed, courteous, reasonable guy. He's may be a fictional character, but the dude is an inspiration for me. Same goes for Kei Hahn (his last name isn't confirmed but I have reasons to believe it's Hahn) from My Bully is My Lover for similar reasons. We don't talk about Kei Dietrich from Sicae, though. That guy can go to hell.

Honestly I don't know what the people here are on about. Orion is a good guy, and I can't believe there's people who don't like him for that.

I wouldn't call Orion a genuinely good guy tho. Man is an absolute horndog and has some streaks of arrogance that blew in his face at the end of 0.7. Only after that did he got humbled, though IMO that arrogance hasn't fully faded away and it will prolly take some time before he grows out of it.

Also Sicae Kei > MBML Kei. Can't stand the latter, tbh. Then again I always consider Sicae to be superior to MBML in almost every aspect save for the LI department.

 

[Finuee]

I was actually very glad he got that wake-up call (getting shot), and realized he was becoming a major asshole. I was starting to really dislike him, and that showed he was going through a character arc instead of being poorly written. It made me appreciate Caribdis' writing, and like Orion way more than if he had just been a flat character.

 

[teasemeplease]

is there 0.9 release date?

Caribdis posts progress updates at least monthly on Discord. He makes about 10% progress per month with his last update 38% complete. I'd guess we are about 6 months out until V 0.9,