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insanity10k

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Regarding Lorelei, I've seen a few people reply to me. I'm not going to bother responding to one specific person, because everyone on page 2094 made some really darn good points! In my opinion, I still think it could go either way. My simplified reasoning is:
1. The rules are different with Calypso. She said that herself in 0.6. So, Orion being loyal to the harem might not apply here.
2. While I do think that Orion is (and should be) largely focused on the harem now, I don't think side girl scenes are completely done with yet. I think they just have to happen under very specific circumstances now. For example, in my mind, the main reason why a character like Eulalie had no chance of getting a scene, is because of how blatantly disrespectful and inconsiderate she was to both Annie and Orion. However, if a character like Eulalie had met Orion at a different time, and chose a different (much more respectful) approach, under different circumstances, there'd be a higher chance of her getting a scene. That's kind of what I mean.

Feel free to explain why I'm wrong if you want. I'll admit it that it's far less likely that I'm right, and far more likely that I'm just dense and have missed the obvious cues, lol. I'm pretty tired as I'm writing this, and it's been a bit since I've actually played Eternum. So, I might have forgotten some important dialogue that indicates that the side girl stuff is over, haha. I really ought to replay Eternum before throwing myself into discussions like this again. :unsure:
 

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Honestly rather than a cheap scene, Lorelei can be used to show their relationship development instead. Like show Calypso being bothered by Lorelei flirting with him, realising she became a lot more fond of him after the recent events or make Orion reject Lorelei's advances and say something like I'd rather do it with Caly showing her that he has grown a little and won't jump to any girl he just met
 

insanity10k

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Honestly rather than a cheap scene, Lorelei can be used to show their relationship development instead. Like show Calypso being bothered by Lorelei flirting with him, realising she became a lot more fond of him after the recent events or make Orion reject Lorelei's advances and say something like I'd rather do it with Caly showing her that he has grown a little and won't jump to any girl he just met
I've never thought about it from that angle before, but I really like that! And actually, now that you've brought that up as a possibility, I hope Caribdis goes with that! It would set things in motion for Caly's scene, it would give her and Orion's romance more development, and, most importantly, it would reinforce Orion's character development from 0.8, and show that he truly is loyal to his girls now! Good call, Zegion! (y)
 

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Honestly rather than a cheap scene, Lorelei can be used to show their relationship development instead. Like show Calypso being bothered by Lorelei flirting with him, realising she became a lot more fond of him after the recent events or make Orion reject Lorelei's advances and say something like I'd rather do it with Caly showing her that he has grown a little and won't jump to any girl he just met
I like that take, makes way more sense with where he's at right now.
 

insanity10k

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I just realized that the clothes Calypso wears in the progress report is not quite the same as in the sneak peeks. It's mostly the same but looks like she has changed the top she wears during the day into a night gown. Looks promising for everyone hoping to get a scene with her.

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LET'S GOOO! Good eye, man! CALY'S DEFINITELY GETTING A SCENE IN 0.9!!! :D
 
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Honestly rather than a cheap scene, Lorelei can be used to show their relationship development instead. Like show Calypso being bothered by Lorelei flirting with him, realising she became a lot more fond of him after the recent events or make Orion reject Lorelei's advances and say something like I'd rather do it with Caly showing her that he has grown a little and won't jump to any girl he just met
Agreed. I think if anything, Lorelei will simply be a catalyst to further the lust between Calypso and Orion.
I think her hinting at Orion being with one of her maids is simply to rationalise her romance with him.
 

Andolt

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Pure static render count wouldn't be the bottleneck that slows production, it'd be animations and what comes before the renders.

I presume Caribdis has a render machine or two, they'll be pumping out a decent amount of static renders every day, it'd be the writing/posing/coding that slows everything down.

Tbf he said himself, the number probably isn't particularly accurate. I'd personally be happy if we get a release by say November/December.
For now it realy looks like November/December but before i hoped for August/September. But looks like your predicted more accurately
 

Dorfnutter

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I presume Caribdis has a render machine or two, they'll be pumping out a decent amount of static renders every day, it'd be the writing/posing/coding that slows everything down.
Honey Select 2 (the software Cari uses for renders) isn't like Daz3D or Blender, it's a game with a built-in character creator and photo studio where you can use custom assets and backgrounds/maps and make images or videos with those. Creating renders with it is as simple as working with the poses, lighting, then taking a screenshot (tho Cari did mention that posing and lighting is where most of his time is spent nowadays as animation duty has been delegated to his full-time animator (Dread)).
 

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Honey Select 2 (the software Cari uses for renders) isn't like Daz3D or Blender, it's a game with a built-in character creator and photo studio where you can use custom assets and backgrounds/maps and make images or videos with those. Creating renders with it is as simple as working with the poses, lighting, then taking a screenshot (tho Cari did mention that posing and lighting is where most of his time is spent nowadays as animation duty has been delegated to his full-time animator (Dread)).
Has anyone checked up on Dread? Is he alive? /s
 

Finuee

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Honey Select 2 (the software Cari uses for renders) isn't like Daz3D or Blender, it's a game with a built-in character creator and photo studio where you can use custom assets and backgrounds/maps and make images or videos with those. Creating renders with it is as simple as working with the poses, lighting, then taking a screenshot (tho Cari did mention that posing and lighting is where most of his time is spent nowadays as animation duty has been delegated to his full-time animator (Dread)).
Do not underestimate how long it can take to plan, frame and light a scene. And that's not even considering how long it'll take to pose the characters first, or plan the composition. It's one of those things that are way more time consuming than it looks from the outside.

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Do not underestimate how long it can take to plan, frame and light a scene. And that's not even considering how long it'll take to pose the characters first, or plan the composition. It's one of those things that are way more time consuming than in looks from the outside.
That's why I have a DEEP respect for Dev's.;):whistle::coffee:
 
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Dorfnutter

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Do not underestimate how long it can take to plan, frame and light a scene. And that's not even considering how long it'll take to pose the characters first, or plan the composition. It's one of those things that are way more time consuming than in looks from the outside.
:WaitWhat:I wasn't? I even mentioned in my post that most of Cari's dev time is dedicated to posing and lighting, which from what I've seen from HS2 tutorial vids are a bitch to work on (especially the lighting since HS2's base lighting pretty much sucks according to some devs and users).
 
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