VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[-Yor-0728]

Comparing developers of different games is a futile exercise. Just forgetting the quality of the games in question (which obviously factors in), each developer or developer team has their own circumstances, considering financial resources, time available, real-life situations, computer power, etc, etc.

Releases for all games come out when the developers are ready. I have never seen that complaining about it does one jot of good - never.

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Thanks, I was just thinking and asking from my ignorance, certainly each "Company" has its own personal circumstances, but I don't know about these of this project. That's why I asked if someone could explain to me what are the circumstances why the updates of this game are slow?

 

[Deleted member 4058859]

Thanks, I was just thinking and asking from my ignorance, certainly each "Company" has its own personal circumstances, but I don't know about these of this project. That's why I asked if someone could explain to me what are the circumstances why the updates of this game are slow?

I dont think anybody except the developer can answer that. I would imagine that the game has a lot of custom assets so that might be whats taking time. I feel like only this update was especially long though - usually updates are out in 4 month intervals.

I am fine with this because I remember that the dev took time off this update cycle + we have holidays (christmas + new year). And this is no big deal - everybody needs vacation time once in a while I go on longer vacations on my actual job. I personally am a supporter and I have been satisfied with the content + quality of updates we have received so far given the wait time.

 

[Muffinking61]

I love Pale Carnations also, I thought it would be cool to visit a few other places that we hear about in the game. I love the way it ended with the Founder apearing to the MC, can;t wait for the update.

 

[Cherubin25]

Why are the updates of this game so slow? I ask because I saw that the creator receives +4000 patrons, which assuming they are of the lowest value (2.5 EUROS) gives a total of 10000 Euros. Unless I'm wrong and patrons aren't people who support, then he receives enough money to do more constant work, right? let's take gunsmokegames as an example, they receive 3900 patrons assuming they are 1 dollar, he receives 3900 dollars per month, but his updates are almost every 1 - 2 months, and I think he is the only one working. Well this may just be how I perceive the situation of this game, but I feel that the updates are too slow. Could someone explain to me please, what is the general situation of this game in terms of its updates? =

The Updates are big. Really big.

I just checked in this Thread if there is a Jumpscare in one of the Parts (Flinks House). I am not good with those, so I wanted to check here. And this was asked before - around 1 year ago. I played Eternum for several hours already and from the looks of it, I am still at the content of 0.1 or maybe 0.2...

Also, the quality of his games are A+++. And I think it is totally fine if it takes a bit longer, in the end, you wont find the same quality AND quantity in many games on this site.

And if you dont want to wait too long - you should check out the Devs first game (Once in a Lifetime). You will enjoy it.

 

[andhesgonewithmetoo]

gunsmokegames as an example

Saying Eternum should be more like Something Unlimited?

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH

No.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Saying Eternum should be more like Something Unlimited?

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH

No.

Yeah when I read that this was basically my reaction (as well as my overall reaction to anyone who thinks Caribdis should implement sandbox/fully freeroam elements in his story-centric work*):

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*I mean, I don't mind if his next game has some sandbox/freeroam elements that make it play like an old-school Sierra adventure game or a VN with RPG elements like MIST so long as it doesn't suffer from feature creep (see: BaDIK, Summertime Saga, Something Unlimited, and - painful as this might be to say since I still like the game - A Struggle with Sin as examples of games that got too bloated for their own good). Just saying that VNs like OIAL and Eternum don't need those things since they're not designed for it and are doing fine without it (and when Caribdis does introduce some form of freeroam it's usually limited so the pacing doesn't get thrown completely under the bus).

 

[i_succd_mia]

gunsmokegames as an example

gunsmoke games takes 1-2 months to release content on a single character (2 if we're lucky) which is always just a repeat of previous stuff; capture girl, talk > dance x3 > strip > blowjob x3 > sex x3 > anal x3 > finished. The character models are never even unique, always the same bodies with slightly different faces and hair

 

[seniorboop]

Why are the updates of this game so slow? I ask because I saw that the creator receives +4000 patrons, which assuming they are of the lowest value (2.5 EUROS) gives a total of 10000 Euros. Unless I'm wrong and patrons aren't people who support, then he receives enough money to do more constant work, right? let's take gunsmokegames as an example, they receive 3900 patrons assuming they are 1 dollar, he receives 3900 dollars per month, but his updates are almost every 1 - 2 months, and I think he is the only one working. Well this may just be how I perceive the situation of this game, but I feel that the updates are too slow. Could someone explain to me please, what is the general situation of this game in terms of its updates? =

Anyone that has played Something Unlimited (gunsmoke games) in the past half decade can see this for the troll that it is

SR7? WORKING!?

Last minute entry for top troll post of 2022

 

[Dorfnutter]

gunsmoke games takes 1-2 months to release content on a single character (2 if we're lucky) which is always just a repeat of previous stuff; capture girl, talk > dance x3 > strip > blowjob x3 > sex x3 > anal x3 > finished. The character models are never even unique, always the same bodies with slightly different faces and hair

I mean, to be fair I feel like this is an issue with DCAU's character art style more so than the dev's fault.

Tho yeah, gameplay-wise Gunsmoke's work is just downright annoying. I don't mind grinding in my games (I have decades of experience playing MMOs and JRPGs to thank for that), but when the grind is not just unreasonably long but also hard to keep track given how many characters and systems you're essentially dealing with? And with a dev that has a tendency to add MORE characters while adding only a sliver of content to existing ones?

 

[browse_man]

gunsmoke games takes 1-2 months to release content on a single character (2 if we're lucky) which is always just a repeat of previous stuff; capture girl, talk > dance x3 > strip > blowjob x3 > sex x3 > anal x3 > finished. The character models are never even unique, always the same bodies with slightly different faces and hair

And to think I used to actively support GG. never again.

 

[Machete]

Thanks, I was just thinking and asking from my ignorance, certainly each "Company" has its own personal circumstances, but I don't know about these of this project. That's why I asked if someone could explain to me what are the circumstances why the updates of this game are slow?

If you refer to the updates of Eternum, they have been, so far, steady on once every 4 months, which puts this game on the fast end of the release curve of Ren'Py projects. And the content per release, i would say, is way above average. It's most definately not slow.

 

[bolenart]

Why are the updates of this game so slow? I ask because I saw that the creator receives +4000 patrons, which assuming they are of the lowest value (2.5 EUROS) gives a total of 10000 Euros. Unless I'm wrong and patrons aren't people who support, then he receives enough money to do more constant work, right? let's take gunsmokegames as an example, they receive 3900 patrons assuming they are 1 dollar, he receives 3900 dollars per month, but his updates are almost every 1 - 2 months, and I think he is the only one working. Well this may just be how I perceive the situation of this game, but I feel that the updates are too slow. Could someone explain to me please, what is the general situation of this game in terms of its updates? =

Couple of points that have not been adressed.

1) Different games will have updates of different sizes. Some release small updates once a month, some massive ones once a year, and everything in between.
2) Quality vs quantity. Caribdis produces a high quality product (as demonstrated by the rating of his games) and thus it will take longer time vs other games with worse graphics, worse writing, non-sensical story etc.
3) After the cut taken by patreon and taxes, less than half of what is paid goes back to the creator. Patreon is notorious among creators for having tons of hidden fees for all sorts of things. Also there's a lot of investment needed in hardware and software needed for high quality games.

I've been on this site for many years now and I can't think of another creator that has been reliably putting out content at this pace.

 

[MagnusAxess]

Why are the updates of this game so slow? I ask because I saw that the creator receives +4000 patrons, which assuming they are of the lowest value (2.5 EUROS) gives a total of 10000 Euros. Unless I'm wrong and patrons aren't people who support, then he receives enough money to do more constant work, right? let's take gunsmokegames as an example, they receive 3900 patrons assuming they are 1 dollar, he receives 3900 dollars per month, but his updates are almost every 1 - 2 months, and I think he is the only one working. Well this may just be how I perceive the situation of this game, but I feel that the updates are too slow. Could someone explain to me please, what is the general situation of this game in terms of its updates? =

Updates faster than most games with higher quality: still considered slow.

 

[broken_dreamer]

I'm a fan of Caribdis since OIAL so I have high expectation for this game, hope it will be even better. Maybe I will wait for more updates before playing this, I have patience

 

[S1nsational]

I'm a fan of Caribdis since OIAL so I have high expectation for this game, hope it will be even better. Maybe I will wait for more updates before playing this, I have patience

If you're waiting to for a higher version for more content, you really really don't need to wait. There's already an insane amount of content in the game

 

[Drakenite]

So I met up with some friends and we all shared what we got for Christmas. I did not mention receiving anything because I know they are not familiar with this game. But even though I played before Christmas, I truly considered this game to be a very early Christmas present.

Haven't truly found a game of this caliber in a long time, that makes me churn through waves of emotion whether it be happiness through the humor, or sadness and anger (Alex's house), and maintaining the level of quality that it is. I am really thankful I discovered this gem.

Thank you Santa Caribdis.

 

[Cbkim]

Am i supposed to die in this part? If not, is there a way to not die in this part? I tried every choices and just leads me to dying. I'm afraid it would be punishing if i chose the wrong path.

 

[ArDZer]

Am i supposed to die in this part? If not, is there a way to not die in this part? I tried every choices and just leads me to dying. I'm afraid it would be punishing if i chose the wrong path.
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If you didn't bought a certain pendant for a certain lassie (that's Annie) when the protagonist first logs into Eternum, that might happen to both of them.

Edit: If you're in doubt, use the walkthrough
https://attachments.f95zone.to/2022/08/2014119_WALKTHROUGH_0.4.pdf

 

[Cherubin25]

Am i supposed to die in this part? If not, is there a way to not die in this part? I tried every choices and just leads me to dying. I'm afraid it would be punishing if i chose the wrong path.
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I have not played this far, but did you try other choices before THIS choice? It might be possible that a choice before that leads to you dying regardless. (This was a thing in the Devs first game as well, if I remember correctly)

 

[j01ntr0l1a]

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