VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[☾♄คгφη]

The cosplay dunno, but the photoshop maybe.

What do you mean, with some changes in photoshop or that they are already photoshopped?

 

[Elhemeer]

The cosplay dunno, but the photoshop maybe.

It certainly could be (and was my first thought), but I have seen people make their eyes look like that purely with makeup. Crazy shit.

 

[whichone]

Whole thing is set-up to find a new head of the company, by finding the 10 gems.
Now MC has gained one & logging off saves your inventory.
Would be funny if he never logged in again, so no-one could ever get all 10!
I'm sure there's some contingency in the plan for that scenario, but can well imagine that sort of thing happening in RL.

 

[ArDZer]

Whole thing is set-up to find a new head of the company, by finding the 10 gems.
Now MC has gained one & logging off saves your inventory.
Would be funny if he never logged in again, so no-one could ever get all 10!
I'm sure there's some contingency in the plan for that scenario, but can well imagine that sort of thing happening in RL.

Same could be said if an Eternum player that obtained Hyas after Asmerilth (Hyas' previous owner) died somehow dies irl as well. While Nova might be able to recover that with the device she created last in v0.5, what'll happen if the E-3X visor that owner had is also gone? That'll certainly be an issue.

 

[whichone]

Same could be said if an Eternum player that obtained Hyas after Asmerilth (Hyas' previous owner) died somehow dies irl as well. While Nova might be able to recover that with the device she created last in v0.5, what'll happen if the E-3X visor that owner had is also gone? That'll certainly be an issue.

Yeah, it was the thought of someone getting one, then dying IRL (after Benjamin), that made me think they must have some sort of contingency.
I know he lost his inventory, after getting excommunicated, but if that hadn't happened & he'd still died...
They could presumably retrieve it (gem or weapon) from a dead player's inventory, but one who's still alive & could log back in might be more difficult.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Whole thing is set-up to find a new head of the company, by finding the 10 gems.
Now MC has gained one & logging off saves your inventory.
Would be funny if he never logged in again, so no-one could ever get all 10!
I'm sure there's some contingency in the plan for that scenario, but can well imagine that sort of thing happening in RL.

Same could be said if an Eternum player that obtained Hyas after Asmerilth (Hyas' previous owner) died somehow dies irl as well. While Nova might be able to recover that with the device she created last in v0.5, what'll happen if the E-3X visor that owner had is also gone? That'll certainly be an issue.

Yeah, it was the thought of someone getting one, then dying IRL (after Benjamin), that made me think they must have some sort of contingency.
I know he lost his inventory, after getting excommunicated, but if that hadn't happened & he'd still died...
They could presumably retrieve it (gem or weapon) from a dead player's inventory, but one who's still alive & could log back in might be more difficult.

Me: Quite the conundrum, this.

Brain: ...0.4 and 0.5 hinted that Eternum could be accessed through dreams, right?

Me: Uhh...yeah?

Brain: And ol' Thanny has some unknown ability of managing to track down those who possess the gems?

Me: Y-yes?

Brain: /evil smile

Me: ...No.

Brain: I mean, it could be possible-

Me: Killing a player and stealing from their inventory while said player is dreaming? That's scary, man. And they could just complain to Ulysses if that happens!

Brain: Well, who's going to believe them? And who's to say that a player could still wake up if they die from Thanny in a dream instead of the neural implant? For all we know, they could just rule that one out as "death by sleep" or something.

Me: Okay, that's just theoretical, alright? No way any of that can work. There's just no way.

Brain: Just put it on the board. We'll see if that is or isn't the case in the next updates or so.

Me: /grumbles and places theory on his personal conspiracy wall

(Edit: It was 0.4 not 0.3. Got my versions mixed up. DX)

 

[ArDZer]

Me: Quite the conundrum, this.

Brain: ...0.3 and 0.5 hinted that Eternum could be accessed through dreams, right?

Me: Uhh...yeah?

Brain: And ol' Thanny has some unknown ability of managing to track those who possess the gems down?

Me: Y-yes?

Brain: /evil smile

Me: ...No.

Brain: I mean, it could be possible-

Me: Killing a player and stealing from their inventory while said player is dreaming? That's scary, man. And they could just complain to Ulysses if that happens!

Brain: Well, who's going to believe them? And who's to say that a player could still wake up if they die from Thanny in a dream instead of the neural implant? For all we know, they could just rule that one out as "death by sleep" or something.

Me: Okay, that's just theoretical, alright? No way any of that can work. There's just no way.

Brain: Just put it on the board. We'll see if that is or isn't the case in the next updates or so.

Me: /grumbles and places theory on his personal conspiracy wall

From one dream to a deathly nightmare. Now that's a Krueger scenario right there.

 

[Vignari]

I wonder how inventory is dealt with, after in-game death.
Take the guy who got killed by Thanatos, after his mate had been killed by the ogre.
Thanatos took the gem, then left.
I wonder if MC could have collected the rest of the guy's inventory, or if it's only the gems and 3 magic weapons that can be taken by other players.
He was pretty high level. I'd have robbed his corpse.

Bodies don't disappear until the person who died logs in again (if I remember it right, and after dying you're banned from logging in for 24 hours), so assuming game logic is applying here, I think it's likely that when the body despawns, their inventory is just deleted, and any unique items they had are probably redistributed back out into the world where they originally were... Or maybe they just fall on the ground right where the body used to be and then just sit there, waiting to be found.
I do agree though. I'd probably have tried sneaking back onto that server to loot Jerry and the others' bodies for them goodies.

 

[☾♄คгφη]

Be like trolling The Founder!

 

[MrLKX]

My thesis on the Gems of Doom is that they have the condition that the owner loses the gem if they don't log in for a long time by despawning and spawning again somewhere.

 

[☾♄คгφη]

I don't think you can fool the founder with something so simple... He is the one who invented the game of the 10 stones of doom and the one who makes the rules. I don't think anything stops him from changing the rules if he wants. So I don't know how much it would work to remove one of the stones from the game if you don't log in anymore. The stone practically remains in the game in your inventory, you don't take it out with you when you log out.

 

[Dorfnutter]

I don't think you can fool the founder with something so simple... He is the one who invented the game of the 10 stones of doom and the one who makes the rules. I don't think anything stops him from changing the rules if he wants. So I don't know how much it would work to remove one of the stones from the game if you don't log in anymore. The stone practically remains in the game in your inventory, you don't take it out with you when you log out.

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That's assuming the game is indeed a game and not something else entirely, and that he has full control of everything...which I'm starting to doubt the more the story progresses and the more we get info about Eternum itself.

 

[☾♄คгφη]

That's assuming the game is indeed a game and not something else entirely, and that he has full control of everything...which I'm starting to doubt the more the story progresses and the more we get info about Eternum itself.

True, but the 10 Stones of Doom game was designed by the founder. That's why I think he can change the rules of the game if he wants (I mean the game with the 10 stones of doom, not Eternum). In addition, the stone practically does not leave the game even if you are not logged into Eternum.

 

[☾♄คгφη]

But, say if someone had it in their inventory & logged in once a week & stayed in the safe space with Idriel, then presumably it would remain in their inventory indefinitely, as they're an active player.
I'd presume that, under that circumstance, no-one can legitimately take it from them.

Yes, but if he logs in, even with Idriel, then the one who endangers the game with the stones could be excommunicated and the inventory taken by the Praetorians. Idriel is practically the right hand of the Founder...

 

[Takkatakka]

That's assuming the game is indeed a game and not something else entirely, and that he has full control of everything...which I'm starting to doubt the more the story progresses and the more we get info about Eternum itself.

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[☾♄คгφη]

As I said: contingency.

To be fair, it's not really endangering the game, it's just effectively preventing a quest from being completed.
I've played plenty of AAA titles where the develper has caused that to happen.

In addition, if we think about it, he had the ability to build a device that could make Orion not lose his inventory no matter how many times he died in Eternum. That device practically breaks the rules of Eternum (much worse than Annie necklace which could only be used once).

 

[Takkatakka]

I definitely thought there was a supernatural vibe to this one. I only started playing yesterday & am not up to the current episode, but MC's dreams and visions have been pretty chilling.
The phone call he received, when he first arrived, seemed to be tied to the "Will you help us?" dark dream.

lol Yeah, Founder has default God Mode.

It is not clear, what is going on with the MC (as of 0.5), but he seems to be able to somehow enter Eternum in dreams and later even outside of dreams in very short episodes. So it can't just be a normal technology or that would be impossible (or it would be badly written by Caribdis, but considering the quality of the rest of the game, I would find that unlikely).

 

[Dorfnutter]

-Snip-

Shush, man! Spoiler that shit! He/she/they already said he/she/they haven't gotten that far in the story yet. Show some basic courtesy! DX

 

[Takkatakka]

Shush, man! Spoiler that shit! He/she/they already said he/she/they haven't gotten that far in the story yet. Show some basic courtesy! DX

I don't see it as a spoiler that we don't know yet what exactly it is, but fine.

 

[Dorfnutter]

True, but the 10 Stones of Doom game was designed by the founder. That's why I think he can change the rules of the game if he wants (I mean the game with the 10 stones of doom, not Eternum). In addition, the stone practically does not leave the game even if you are not logged into Eternum.

The only thing the Founder has "designed" with regards to that is the contest (if you can even call it that, it's more like a disorganized free-for-all gathering quest more than anything really) and its prize. The specifics as to how a Gem of Doom is found is still up in the air at this point, let alone what it actually is capable of doing. Hell, we still don't even know HOW Orion managed to get his first gem since the events leading up to that is head-scratchy at best. And the fact that he got his 2nd gem from a player instead of an event doesn't help, really.

Which is why I'm doubting if he can even affect the rules of the contest. So far the only thing he can do it seems is being able to track down a gem when it manifests/pops up and being able to check which player managed to get it when it happens. Only issue is if it passes hands to another player, in which case they have no way how to track that unless said player attends the parties that they throw out (which is likely a sneaky way for them to track down/keep tabs on those who have the gems at that point...though it likely isn't perfect since a gem holder could just not attend if they want). Another thing he can do it seems is to accelerate the hunt by providing players some helpful items of his own like the Amulet of Blair. But other than those he doesn't seem to be able to do shit like being able to forcefully take gems from players like Thanny does (though that could change in the future when all gems have manifested/are found), or set the parameters on how the gems are obtained (at least, at this point there are no scenes that would indicate that he has such ability).