I don't think anybody can really argue, that Eternum is bad in what it tries to do. I really couldn't come up with a single thing that any other visual novel I played did considerable better. There are some that I would consider on a similar level like PC or BaD, but not better.
One point that could be mentioned is that - at least so far - Eternum doesn't seem to have any big decisions that excludes you from others. Since it is a harem game the different paths aren't exclusive to each other like the ones in BaD now are.
Just listen to Empress Nancy (the trolls will dismiss the message regardless). For your safety, or she'll nail you into a cross with rusty nails at the Via Appia (if her server has the equivalent of that, definitely not a good way to go out).
Jumping in after months to check if there is an update , and I find a flame war, with memes, high emotions and plot! Even in meta, Eternum is entertaining...
Jumping in after months to check if there is an update , and I find a flame war, with memes, high emotions and plot! Even in meta, Eternum is entertaining...
And there's only 25% left to complete v0.6 and a 4th sneak peek that's yet to be released. Once the new update finally comes out, it'll be wild here in the thread.
And there's only 25% left to complete v0.6 and a 4th sneak peek that's yet to be released. Once the new update finally comes out, it'll be wild here in the thread.
I haven't played a lot of VN games, but I wonder why Eternum is mediocre compared to other "top" titles by some people, and why ? I'm just curious. I find Eternum really good and I'm waiting for more.
I haven't played a lot of VN games, but I wonder why Eternum is mediocre compared to other "top" titles by some people, and why ? I'm just curious. I find Eternum really good and I'm waiting for more.
I personally think that guy was just a troll trying to elicit a reaction from people. Sure you can dislike the game but going as far as trying to slander the dev and making stupid conspiracy theories by saying that there is something weird going on with the ratings just because you did not like the game means the guy is either an idiot or a troll. I think it is the latter.
If you genuinely want to know what people did not like about this game you can look at the reviews. Most people agree with your assessment given it is the highest rated game on this site currently but there are few who dislike some aspects of it and you can find that in the reviews. Look at the ones that are 3 stars or lower to see their opinions if you are curious. I think that trying to engage with the shitstorm caused by a troll will make this thread quite unpleasant so reading reviews is a better way to do it.
Personally my biggest complaint with this game is that some choices can feel unintuitive and you can lose girls paths too easily. I think the design should be such that losing a girls path should be a conscious choice and it should not happen on which can very easily happen in this game. But I dont think the game is mediocre in any way so reviews can give you a better idea why some people dislike the game.
I haven't played a lot of VN games, but I wonder why Eternum is mediocre compared to other "top" titles by some people, and why ? I'm just curious. I find Eternum really good and I'm waiting for more.
There are innumerable reasons why people either like or dislike a particular game. There is nothing that is universally liked or disliked. That applies to every genre of expression. Read the early reviews of pieces of art, literature and music, those that are regarded as classics today. You will find respected (at the time) critics who despised them.
Now we have the internet, where people can sit in their underwear in their parents' basements and throw rocks at anything they choose - respected critics in their own minds.
Of course, it is not a sin for anyone to dislike this game or any other. But, when we are blessed with an obvious troll, as we have been here, one obvious remedy is to place that person on Ignore. Thankfully, my Ignore bucket seems to expand to meet my needs. I don't know what I'd do without it.
I haven't played a lot of VN games, but I wonder why Eternum is mediocre compared to other "top" titles by some people, and why ? I'm just curious. I find Eternum really good and I'm waiting for more.
It's the epitome of an old-school VN that hearkens back to titles like "Fate/Stay Night" and "Sōkō Akki Muramasa." That is, the story/route has basically one true ending (and a couple of good or bad ones), choices usually have only one correct answer (the rest will lead you to bad ends or cut you off from a love interest's route), and there's hardly anything to do other than reading through the story and watch scenes when they pop up. The only modern additions that "Eternum" brings to the table are the animated events, the QTEs, the simple freeroam events, and the simpler writing style (as opposed to the wall-to-wall text that old-school VNs are notorious for having), which breaks the monotony and makes it less likely for someone to gouge their eyes out.
For some (me included), the old-school feel is basically a non-issue. But for some who prefer their VNs to have more stuff to do to break the monotony like mini-games (see: "BADIK" and "Summertime Saga") or freeroaming (again, "BADIK" and just about every sandbox VN that's out at the moment) or systems that turn it into an RPG-lite (see: "MIST" and "Aurelia"), I can see why those people would consider "Eternum" to be "mediocre" at best.
And then there are those who consider it to be "mediocre" due to the writing style/story concept and prefer more "serious" or "grounded" styles of storytelling/story concepts, the kind that you usually see in shows that stream on HBO or VNs that try to mimic them. It's those people that are the ones I usually see who couldn't fathom why something like "Eternum" could be so popular, with one review I've seen a while back going so far as to call those who like the VN "people with no taste." To those people I say "what may be good for you may not essentially be good for a lot of folks." Like, for instance people swear that "The Last of Us" is one of those "10/10 best story best characters" games out there, and I'm like "Why? It's a zombie survival game in a different skin. Sure, the story has a lot of heart to it and they put a bit more effort in making the apocalyptic threat a bit more credible but...how exactly is that any different from any other well-written zombie game/story out there?" But then again you don't see me going to forums or dedicated pages shitting on that game because I can see how some of its merits make it popular to most but not for people like me. Unfortunately, some people just don't think like that and will scream at people to "quit having fun" just because they're offended that people genuinely like what they've already written off as "meh."
I haven't played a lot of VN games, but I wonder why Eternum is mediocre compared to other "top" titles by some people, and why ? I'm just curious. I find Eternum really good and I'm waiting for more.
Eternum is far from mediocre, I can't really point out any flaws in it since every aspect of the game is well done. But I think this is what makes it "mediocre", every part of the game is just "well done" and not "exceptional".
Eternum is kind of like fast food, it's very accessible. And while I prefer home cooked food more because it is better suited to my tastes, it doesn't make me think any less of fast food.
I haven't played a lot of VN games, but I wonder why Eternum is mediocre compared to other "top" titles by some people, and why ? I'm just curious. I find Eternum really good and I'm waiting for more.
While some folks may honestly not be into it, if you observe some of the most obnoxious comments about it and look at the accounts posting, you'll often find they are brand new, or very old with relatively few comments (e.g., opened in 2017, but only double-digit comments). When you look at these accounts, you'll see that these are often negative posting accounts on many popular AVNs, except maybe for one or two.
These are typically troll accounts set up for the sole purpose of doing things like trashing otherwise popular and well made games, and for generally being raging dicks. I suspect many of them are secondary accounts of people that are either less successful Devs, or friends/fans of less successful Devs. They may also simply be people who only get joy from being assholes.
When you see people like that on this thread, or in other threads for popular and well made AVNs, put them on ignore and just don't feed the trolls. They are pathetic people that shouldn't have their bad behavior rewarded by giving them any attention at all. If they're particularly rude, report their comments and have them removed - that makes them scream as well.
While some folks may honestly not be into it, if you observe some of the most obnoxious comments about it and look at the accounts posting, you'll often find they are brand new, or very old with relatively few comments (e.g., opened in 2017, but only double-digit comments). When you look at these accounts, you'll see that these are often negative posting accounts on many popular AVNs, except maybe for one or two.
These are typically troll accounts set up for the sole purpose of doing things like trashing otherwise popular and well made games, and for generally being raging dicks. I suspect many of them are secondary accounts of people that are either less successful Devs, or friends of less successful Devs. They may also simply be people who only get joy from being assholes.
When you see people like that on this thread, or in other threads for popular and well made AVNs, put them on ignore and just don't feed the trolls. They are pathetic people that shouldn't have their bad behavior rewarded by giving them any attention at all. If they're particularly rude, report their comments and have them removed - that makes them scream as well.
I was just going to give it a proper thumbs up ... and then I looked at what I thought was going to be an example of one of depicted trolls' multiple-thread comments ...
While some folks may honestly not be into it, if you observe some of the most obnoxious comments about it and look at the accounts posting, you'll often find they are brand new, or very old with relatively few comments (e.g., opened in 2017, but only double-digit comments). When you look at these accounts, you'll see that these are often negative posting accounts on many popular AVNs, except maybe for one or two.
These are typically troll accounts set up for the sole purpose of doing things like trashing otherwise popular and well made games, and for generally being raging dicks. I suspect many of them are secondary accounts of people that are either less successful Devs, or friends of less successful Devs. They may also simply be people who only get joy from being assholes.
When you see people like that on this thread, or in other threads for popular and well made AVNs, put them on ignore and just don't feed the trolls. They are pathetic people that shouldn't have their bad behavior rewarded by giving them any attention at all. If they're particularly rude, report their comments and have them removed - that makes them scream as well.
