VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

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Ungawa

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Takkatakka said:
Granted "hostile" might be a bit too strong a word. But she was kinda...well..."aloof" would be the nice word, "bitchy" the less nice word, I guess. :LOL:

Then again...I don't really care for her that much since she is a made-up character even in her own world...at least as far as we know.
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Kinda gotta pull on this string a bit...

From what we can figure out, there's some sort of multi-parallel/multi-dimensional type deal going on. She's powerful in magic that doesn't exist, all the elves she's talking about are Tolkien (which doesn't mean much since the author is using them for reference) and this company is capable of making a game that pulls you elsewhere as the MC has been figuring out in a number of things.

There's a LOT of grand schemes going on and they tie to Calypso and MC being very important for some reason.
 
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Elhemeer said:
I just noticed something else ... I'm sure Dorfnutter has commented on it somewhere in his vast soliloquies, but every time MC wakes up from a nightmare, he says practically (or exactly) the same thing:



I suddenly realize they probably didn't start after answering the phone ...
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Bingo. Dollars to donuts, that helped activate a signal that he was important to Eternum and ties with his missing childhood memories.
 
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Elhemeer said:
I just noticed something else ... I'm sure Dorfnutter has commented on it somewhere in his vast soliloquies, but every time MC wakes up from a nightmare, he says practically (or exactly) the same thing:



I suddenly realize they probably didn't start after answering the phone ...
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I did address that in one of em, actually...

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Obvious revisions to the first two paragraphs considering the latest rambling, of course (where instead of him stumbling upon Acheron during a bleeding event in his youth, it could be that his original incarnation stumbled upon the place while dreaming or passing through Eternum after death (could be that he died young in his original incarnation), which kept him from being sucked into the cycle right as the Founder triggered the reset, and only after he was discovered was he forcefully chucked back along with the other souls in the cycle of death of rebirth. But thanks to his status as being a soul that's quite whole (or maybe Idriel did something to him - blessed him or marked him - before he was chucked back into the cycle), he is able to keep his main identity - just as Astaroth did in OIAL - intact even as he went through his many incarnations. Unlike Astaroth though, his old soul likely couldn't assert himself in every incarnation, which was why I mentioned earlier that he could be "sleeping" during certain incarnations and only wake up whenever he manifests his powers - albeit briefly).

Regardless if that's the case or not, one thing for sure is that Orion is pretty much marked by the dead now (if the Bleeding Case in the Gas Station outside of Kredon is any indication. Also interesting how that event happened WHILE it was raining. Just something to think about, really). So...I hope Orion is okay with having to switch to a steady diet of coffee because I'm foreseeing a lot of sleepless nights for our poor horndog in the future (and not just because he's gonna end up sleeping with just about every member of his harem before this entire ordeal is done).
 
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Elhemeer

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dolfe67 said:
I didn't answered the phone, and I don't think it changed anything about the "dreams"
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Ungawa said:
Bingo. Dollars to donuts, that helped activate a signal that he was important to Eternum and ties with his missing childhood memories.
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My intent was to imply that he may have had them his whole life and he never remembers that he had them even moments after he's woke up ... I guess that didn't come through.
 
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All righty... maybe I'm just tripping balls, but I noticed something that could be relevant. No idea whether it's been brought up before, but here is a little something that got me thinking...

*puts on his tinfoil hat*

Remember the Syndicate recruitment poster we saw on Ion?

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And here is a potentially important bit from the morgue scene that happens much later:

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I'm normally wary of interpreting visual evidence as clues in VNs because it can be very misleading; what might look like a clue is simply a result of an asset's default look, the dev recycling assets or something of that nature. Here, however, both assets seem to be custom-made and if that's the case, this is probably not a coincidence.


Make of that what you will...

EDIT: so much for that. I guess it's nothing, then. Oh well, t'was worth a try. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Dorfnutter

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Frowster said:
All righty... maybe I'm just tripping balls, but I noticed something that could be relevant. No idea whether it's been brought up before, but here is a little something that got me thinking...

*puts on his tinfoil hat*

Remember the Syndicate recruitment poster we saw on Ion?

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And here is a potentially important bit from the morgue scene that happens much later:

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Are you seeing what I'm seeing? No? Welp, here it is:

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I'm normally wary of interpreting visual evidence as clues in VNs because it can be very misleading; what might look like a clue is simply a result of an asset's default look, the dev recycling assets or something of that nature. Here, however, both assets seem to be custom-made and if that's the case, this is probably not a coincidence.

Make of that what you will...
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So either Cari commissioned for that map asset to be made WHILE he was still working on OIAL (possible, considering that he may have been playing around with HS2 already at that point), or he took that asset and said "you know what, I can use these numbers..." and just wrote it in his story accordingly.

Or all of this is just a mighty coincidence that has no connection with one another (like '2139' could be the current year in Ion, something like that).

Still, could be something, so...

/posts it as a note in his conspiracy board while citing Frowster as the source

(Also, if we're gonna go full Harold Camping on this one, adding all of the numbers gets you 15, and
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(I'm looking from that because of the Gems of Doom - Sefirot connection), we get...

"Fifteen always represents the elevation from physical to spiritual. From this we can understand the Kli Yakar that fifteen is often used to represent the bond between man and wife, as we shall soon see.

The elevation, mentioned in the previous paragraph, has a corollary: The number fifteen always signifies the fifteen steps necessary for the attainment of a lofty objective.

The physical world was created in six days and a spiritual dimension was added to it, the seventh day. The number eight begins the spiritual realm beyond this world. Through the performance of certain mitzvot (commandment, duty), one can connect the physical and spiritual realms and this is symbolized by the number 15 [7+8=15] Thus, the number 15 represents a synthesis of heaven and earth."

...well that's just one instance of the importance of the number sooooo...make of that what you will, I suppose?)
 
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Son of Durin

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Frowster said:
All righty... maybe I'm just tripping balls, but I noticed something that could be relevant. No idea whether it's been brought up before, but here is a little something that got me thinking...

*puts on his tinfoil hat*

Remember the Syndicate recruitment poster we saw on Ion?

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And here is a potentially important bit from the morgue scene that happens much later:

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Are you seeing what I'm seeing? No? Welp, here it is:

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I'm normally wary of interpreting visual evidence as clues in VNs because it can be very misleading; what might look like a clue is simply a result of an asset's default look, the dev recycling assets or something of that nature. Here, however, both assets seem to be custom-made and if that's the case, this is probably not a coincidence.


Make of that what you will...

EDIT: so much for that. I guess it's nothing, then. Oh well, t'was worth a try. :ROFLMAO:
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There's also the phenomenon where people have a tendency to repeat certain numbers attempting to be "random", but subconsciously the human brain really doesn't do "random" and you end up with repetition. Still, it could be deliberate and if it is, that might get revealed - sort of like the four digits in OAILT (6147, maybe?). A number string has been important on one Cari venture, so maybe it could be again.
 
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Elhemeer

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Frowster said:
All righty... maybe I'm just tripping balls, but I noticed something that could be relevant. No idea whether it's been brought up before, but here is a little something that got me thinking...

*puts on his tinfoil hat*

Remember the Syndicate recruitment poster we saw on Ion?

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And here is a potentially important bit from the morgue scene that happens much later:

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Are you seeing what I'm seeing? No? Welp, here it is:

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I'm normally wary of interpreting visual evidence as clues in VNs because it can be very misleading; what might look like a clue is simply a result of an asset's default look, the dev recycling assets or something of that nature. Here, however, both assets seem to be custom-made and if that's the case, this is probably not a coincidence.


Make of that what you will...

EDIT: so much for that. I guess it's nothing, then. Oh well, t'was worth a try. :ROFLMAO:
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Or, it could be a hidden tribute to Monsters, Inc.
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Son of Durin said:
There's also the phenomenon where people have a tendency to repeat certain numbers attempting to be "random", but subconsciously the human brain really doesn't do "random" and you end up with repetition. Still, it could be deliberate and if it is, that might get revealed - sort of like the four digits in OAILT (6147, maybe?). A number string has been important on one Cari venture, so maybe it could be again.
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So proud of you for being able to reference that first-hand now. They grow up so fast :')
 
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I know someone must have already asked, but I've been without internet for 2 years, does anyone fuck the love interests or is it just the mc that fucks?:unsure:
 
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