VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[An known]

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The Penny and Alex reaction after seeing their pictures in the Boob Fiesta:

 

[Dragon59]

Harem is less realistic, more like a lil escapist fantasy that satisfies all your urges but doesn't leave good closure. A solo route feels more complete and in touch with reality, less diversification too. Don't get me wrong, I support polyamour, it's just that going for more than 2-3 girls makes you more aware of the "porny" nature of the story xD

In this one, it is important to the mythological roots that there be seven core women.

 

[ArDZer]

My, my. Just 7% percent left to complete v0.6 and the last sneak peek could be released soon too. That said, replaying Eternum again, I've a question regarding the Bardot family (yes, that "lovely" family of the tattooed and tough, yet softie lady), does it mention anywhere who's the oldest or youngest twin between Alex and Axel? I can't entirely recall if that was mentioned in the story so far.

 

[Elhemeer]

My, my. Just 7% percent left to complete v0.6 and the last sneak peek could be released soon too. That said, replaying Eternum again, I've a question regarding the Bardot family (yes, that "lovely" family of the tattooed and tough, yet softie lady), does it mention anywhere who's the oldest or youngest twin between Alex and Axel? I can't entirely recall if that was mentioned in the story so far.

Pretty sure Alex says Axel is a few minutes older ... but that's off the top of my head.

 

[sageproduct]

It doesn't really matter if there is actual explicit content of the girls with other men or not. You can already sense implications of that sort. It's already abundantly clear, in both games, that bad choices bring bad consequences for the girls.

Competition between men is a very present element in Caribdis' work. Remember James, Oliver, and the specific *way* that you are tormented in one of the bad endings, as well as some of the things Astaroth says to you. Not to mention the fact that one of your main love intetests is married to and mistreated by the ultimate antagonist! I'd say it's more present than I might feel from other works. Even Tom, while not really a *romantic* threat, is very much a physical/sexual threat.

We already have plenty of bad things happen to the girls if you choose poorly, including advances of other men portrayed *as* bad things. Penny strips for a lecherous abuser and is so distraught she renounces her whole dream. Annie has her heart shattered only for you to twist the knife by sending her a shirtless pic. Dalia, a self-reliant woman who already doesn't trust easily, is consummately betrayed, robbed of a special and precious place by people who have been horrible to her. Penny is betrayed and taunted by a social enemy. Then there's the advances of other men, portrayed as bad things: Dalia considers giving Jerry a chance. Nancy allows advances from the yoga instructor.

These outcomes are already bad enough, the message clear enough. It's inconsequential whether rape is used to dial it up even more, that's just sharper dressing on the same flavor.

 

[Dragon59]

NTR - stands for "Netorare," which is a Japanese term. Basically has 3 variations/flavors to it: Pure NTR, Netori, and Netorase.

As for the definitions of the terms, I'll just quote a reply I had a while back to someone asking the same question...


Edit: Just to add, the trouble with F95 tagging is that the NTR tag basically covers all three flavors, so sometimes there's confusion if a title is Pure NTR (the rage bait), Netori (for those who want to RP as a scum/Mister-Imma-steal-your-girl), or Netorase (the I'm-a-cuck-and-I-like-it route).

The F95 definition is:

• Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

Which is pretty weak. They don't even have to be a couple first. Just someone the player is interested in.

 

[Dorfnutter]

It doesn't matter if there's explicit content of the girls with other men. It's already abundantly clear, in both games, that bad choices bring bad consequences for the girls.

Competition between men is a very present element in Caribdis' work. Remember James, Oliver, and the specific *way* that you are tormented in one of the bad endings, as well as some of the things Astaroth says to you. Not to mention the fact that one of your main love intetests is married to and mistreated by the ultimate antagonist! I'd say it's more present than I might feel from other works.

We already have plenty of bad things happen to the girls if you choose poorly, including advances of other men portrayed *as* bad things. Penny strips for a lecherous abuser and is so distraught she renounces her whole dream. Annie has her heart shattered only for you to twist the knife by sending her a shirtless pic. Dalia, a self-reliant woman who already doesn't trust easily, is consummately betrayed, robbed of a special and precious place by people who have been horrible to her. Penny is betrayed and taunted by a social enemy. Then there's the advances of other men, portrayed as bad things: Dalia considers giving Jerry a chance. Nancy allows advances from the yoga instructor.

These outcomes are already bad enough, the message clear enough. It's inconsequential whether rape is used to dial it up even more, that's just sharper dressing on the same flavor.

Yeah, but unlike a certain scenario in OIAL you don't really see anything extreme beyond the stuff you've mentioned (which are basically bad ends to LI routes). No scenario where we see Thanatos rape Nova and/or Alex and/or Caly in Ogygia, or going home only to see Nancy and Kai go at it like rabbits if we let them be, or Penny slowly falling from grace and becoming the one thing she vowed never to become - an Instagram whore - if we choose options that would corrupt her, or actually going through with selling Nova to that guy in Garrington's Casino. In other games it would be par for the course given this is still a porn game and all, but Cari is definitely showing some restraint with the bad route ends after the Lauren-Orochi shitstorm (for now, at least. Hopefully it stays that way, as promised).

The F95 definition is:

• Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

Which is pretty weak. They don't even have to be a couple first. Just someone the player is interested in.

Not to mention somewhat inaccurate because Netori is covered by that tag, and the player character there IS the scumbag who steals the girl, so I'm not sure how jealousy factors there...unless you make the argument that the Netori MC feels some sort of jealousy to the couple, hence his decision to absolutely ruin said couple's lives.

 

[Son of Durin]

Yeah, but unlike a certain scenario in OIAL you don't really see anything extreme beyond the stuff you've mentioned (which are basically bad ends to LI routes).

In other games it would be par for the course given this is still a porn game and all, but Cari is definitely showing some restraint with the bad route ends after the Lauren-Orochi shitstorm (for now, at least. Hopefully it stays that way, as promised).

I must have missed that - then again, I only did a couple of "bad endings" and I don't think I ever did anything deliberately that would have harmed the girls. Is it something he took out of the "final" version that's there now, or is it the result of a series of bad decisions/rejection decisions with Lauren?

 

[Dorfnutter]

I must have missed that - then again, I only did a couple of "bad endings" and I don't think I ever did anything deliberately that would have harmed the girls. Is it something he took out of the "final" version that's there now, or is it the result of a series of bad decisions/rejection decisions with Lauren?

Spoiler: I mean, the event is still there if you chose to sell Lauren to Orochi and didn't accuse him during the Yakuza meet up (which would've led to his death)...

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[Son of Durin]

Spoiler: I mean, the event is still there if you chose to sell Lauren to Orochi and didn't accuse him during the Yakuza meet up (which would've led to his death)...

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Ah - I didn't do that. Thanks.

 

[An known]

•Thanatos rape Nova and/or Alex and/or
Caly in Ogygia
•Going home only to see Nancy and Kai go at it like rabbits if we let them be
•Penny slowly falling from grace and becoming the one thing she vowed never to become - an Instagram whore - if we choose options that would corrupt her °
•Selling Nova to that guy in Garrington's Casino

Me after reading this:

 

[w123t4]

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RIP, no more next generation engine and model for the game who based on hs and koikatsu, hope the mods can still keep the engine alive or the developers may start to change to use other engines.

 

[Dorfnutter]

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RIP, no more next generation engine and model for the game who based on hs and koikatsu, hope the mods can still keep the engine alive or the developers may start to change to use other engines.

Current worry is that someone who manages to snag the rights to the engine and assets might be a lot more aggressive in sending CnD orders to modders and indie VN makers who're currently using Illusion software for renders - Cari included. So...fingers crossed that that might not be the case or that that's not how things work and I'm just talking out of my ass or something.

 

[Elhemeer]

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RIP, no more next generation engine and model for the game who based on hs and koikatsu, hope the mods can still keep the engine alive or the developers may start to change to use other engines.

Whelp, I couldn't read that, so what does this mean? Is this similar to an operating system no longer being supported by the developer?

 

[Elhemeer]

Current worry is that someone who manages to snag the rights to the engine and assets might be a lot more aggressive in sending CnD orders to modders and indie VN makers who're currently using Illusion software for renders - Cari included. So...fingers crossed that that might not be the case or that that's not how things work and I'm just talking out of my ass or something.

Oh, the company is selling their assets?

 

[ArDZer]

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RIP, no more next generation engine and model for the game who based on hs and koikatsu, hope the mods can still keep the engine alive or the developers may start to change to use other engines.

Would be a worrisome scenario if some projects are halted, or abandoned altogether after this announcement. Wonder which people or company will pick up the pieces (and how much this will force some indie developers to change their current development plans, and if Caribdis will create contingency measures once he learns of this). Just a humble opinion from my part.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Oh, the company is selling their assets?

Just an assumption on my part since this is what's going to happen come the 18th of August based on a post on their website (translation from someone in Illusion discord)...

 

[Elhemeer]

Ahh ... yea, this is the Steam announcement:

 

[shucia]

So does this means no more HS games anymore in the future?

 

[Dorfnutter]

Would be a worrisome scenario if some projects are halted, or abandoned altogether after this announcement. Wonder which people or company will pick up the pieces (and how much this will force some indie developers to change their current development plans, and if Caribdis will create contingency measures once he learns of this). Just a humble opinion from my part.

So does this means no more HS games anymore in the future?

My absolute hope is that...nothing happens. No CnDs from the company or person who gets the rights for the software assets (assuming they get sold), no Patreon or Subscribestar announcement that they will be fucking devs over because they have issue with seeing people profit over work on a "dead" software. Life just goes on and the community is allowed to continue with their work...even if the software itself eventually becomes unwieldy thanks to new hardware and new operating systems (like even now you see people complaining about being able to run stuff like HS2 at a steady 60fps for one reason or another) and that it's mandatory that you sail the high seas in order to acquire it.