VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[MikesDK]

C'mon, I'm not very keen of rape content, but that scene wasn't extreme at all. Not to mention it wasn't the dev being a douchebag, neither was with a girl who didn't have the will of D, she's clearly in love with the MC , not to mention no vaginal action on that scene.

Even with all that, and not being a fan of rape scenes, in that particular scene the conflict in her feelings along with her shyness in engaging in that was pretty cute.

Keep in mind that it was implied since begining that the game would have heavy content here and there. It's a game for survival at this point, it's normal for people to die and to some do some horrible things. It gives depth and quality for the story. Just to give you an idea, in one of my favorite series of all time, One Piece (and I'm an hardcore fan), many fans (me included) question the small amount of people who die in such long series. Death is a natural part of a story, humans by nature are unfortunely a completly despicable being. So it gives strength to the story.

So yeah, that scene really isn't an issue to me, even not being a fan of rape stuff. As long it doesn't conflict with the personality and good nature of the MC, it doesn't bother me. Not to mention, that for those who played the last release, it even shows that scenes like that increase the good nature of the MC, it shows he is in reality a very nice guy. I'm talking about the "kid molester scene", which is in equal terms as disturbing to me as rape.

It's the Ying Yang, to reinforce the good aspects, you need to use the bad aspects in your favour, specially in drama.

Yeah ill give you that it wasent vaginal, but dont think that would matter much IRL it would still be a form of rape.

She was cute when see saw hes dick still wish it dident happen that way, and if you ask me it shouldent even have gotten that far, MC was already untied and could have stopped it all very easy when Maat sits down next to Nova right infront of MC one hit to the face that would be it, it really shouldent have gone that far even MC consider not looking when shes just taking her clothes off and ends with accepting a BJ, just seems stupid to me, and it does goes against the good nature of the MC since he could have stopped it easily also goes against the shyness of Novas char nothing of it really makes sense to me, its like MC accepted evil instend of fighting it.

And i dont mind heavy scenes, my favorit game is leap of faith cece route it dosent get more heavy then that when it comes to feelings, but rape just isent my thing in any form and what i mostly complain about is the lack of rape tag its something that really should be there.

Wtf? Tell me you're joking right now. If not, there's no need for me to catch up on this.

No not joking, i hated that scene

 

[ArDZer]

To the people asking for the playlist,

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(PSA: Please don't go to the artist's YT pages of said songs and tell them that you heard this from Eternum as the owners of royalty-free music sites and some artists who don't want their work associated to adult content have been cracking down on AVN devs using said songs (they already gave grief to Ocean - the dev of "Summer's Gone" - and DriftyGames - the dev of "Leap of Faith" - which led them to remove music from their own games). So if you don't want Cari to pull songs out of this VN because some litigious license holder discovered that said song is being used in an AVN, just enjoy the music and as much as possible don't post/leave any sort of comment on YT)

That's actually very good advice. As to whether people will heed to it, that remains to be seen (hopefully they'll listen to the PSA). And iirc, Being A DIK also had to remove a few soundtracks from its project sometime ago.

 

[Wallo31]

wtf are you talking about. A crush indicates romantic feelings, not just physical attraction. Of course penny can tell he's physically attracted to her, that's why she keeps teasing him.

Chill out man, it's ok, different perspectives i guess. Imho it seemed that following her path you left enough not-so-subtle hints for that regard. But maybe it's me.

 

[Elhemeer]

PLEASE let it go ...

 

[SerHawkes]

Circle Jerk topic in 3...2...1...

 

[Ellyx]

There is no need for a "rape" tag, if it were needed it would be in the tag. The tags are very accurate for this AVN, they even added a tag for Gertrude
(pls just move on with it)

 

[hu lover]

There is no need for a "rape" tag, if it were needed it would be in the tag. The tags are very accurate for this AVN, they even added a tag for Gertrude View attachment 2824124
(pls just move on with it)

This guy deserves a platinum star.

 

[misterandy33]

miss some of work with lights and shadows, BG and some improvement at level of post production ( filters and retouch)

Agreed. But like I said, it was just a quick setup and render

Somehow I managed to lose Dalli Dalia route, unfortunately. The scene on the beach after I beat the crap out of the soy "MMA fighter" who mocked her was very emotional, those "try to not cry" moments

told Chang the password, did ya? That's how you lost it.

 

[Agnikai]

Can anybody recommend me a game/VN where family members having sexual relationship in a virtual world (kinda like this game)?

 

[waveblaster69]

I don't know how yall feel about this but I kinda wish he boned that ghost lady.

 

[DirtyMario]

you say there's no need, yet you have an updated one. lol

Yes. I am weak and the artistry is too strong for me.
also it's god damn Alex, come on. I better not show you the shrine in my room corner.

An unpopular opinion here:

Of course I totally love this game, I enjoy the humour, the story, the dialogue, the characters, the sexual progression, the music and sound effects, it's borderline a perfect game for my tastes, but one thing kinda doesn't sit right for me:

I don't feel it should be a harem game.

I've got no issue with harem games in general, and I don't have an issue with the mc womanizing all the characters in one playthrough. It's just the idea at the end that all the girls will be like, "The mc is so important to me, I'd rather share him than lose him" (the typical premise when the mc gets to have them all) doesn't appeal to me with all these girls.

The girls all have such strong personalities, so to belittle them into being in a harem, yeah, I can't see it.

Nancy I get. She's not looking for a husband in the mc. She's pretty much spelled it out that she's totally "in lust" with him, and she's already fishing to see if he's interested in any of her daughters. So in the end, she'd be up for sharing.

But the rest? Particularly someone like Alex... It takes the mc ages to get past her defences, and if she finds out he's in relationships with other girls, I reckon she'd just walk. I think Annie'd be crushed to find out the mc has been "two-timing" her; she's been in love with him for ages, it'd be a betrayal to her. I think Luna would be OK with it, but Mr H would still kill the mc! Penny would probably be fine, but I think Dalia would write him off. Nova's a wild card; I think she'd be into it.

It worked in OiaL, but I think Eternum has more depth than that game... But anyway, I have no idea how the maestro Caribdis is gonna wrap this up, so for now I'll continue to enjoy the ride.

Shoutout to this based opinion.
It won't change though. His supporters are expecting it and he agreed to do it, however little sense it makes.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

An unpopular opinion here:

Of course I totally love this game, I enjoy the humour, the story, the dialogue, the characters, the sexual progression, the music and sound effects, it's borderline a perfect game for my tastes, but one thing kinda doesn't sit right for me:

I don't feel it should be a harem game.

I've got no issue with harem games in general, and I don't have an issue with the mc womanizing all the characters in one playthrough. It's just the idea at the end that all the girls will be like, "The mc is so important to me, I'd rather share him than lose him" (the typical premise when the mc gets to have them all) doesn't appeal to me with all these girls.

The girls all have such strong personalities, so to belittle them into being in a harem, yeah, I can't see it.

Nancy I get. She's not looking for a husband in the mc. She's pretty much spelled it out that she's totally "in lust" with him, and she's already fishing to see if he's interested in any of her daughters. So in the end, she'd be up for sharing.

But the rest? Particularly someone like Alex... It takes the mc ages to get past her defences, and if she finds out he's in relationships with other girls, I reckon she'd just walk. I think Annie'd be crushed to find out the mc has been "two-timing" her; she's been in love with him for ages, it'd be a betrayal to her. I think Luna would be OK with it, but Mr H would still kill the mc! Penny would probably be fine, but I think Dalia would write him off. Nova's a wild card; I think she'd be into it.

It worked in OiaL, but I think Eternum has more depth than that game... But anyway, I have no idea how the maestro Caribdis is gonna wrap this up, so for now I'll continue to enjoy the ride.

I don't believe in the possibility of harems at all and have no idea how it can work. I don't see how girls can put up with this.
I'd rather choose my canonical LI towards the end of the game than be in a harem.

 

[agrdtcwa]

It won't change though. His supporters are expecting it and he agreed to do it, however little sense it makes.

He did not 'agree to do it' because his fans were expecting it. It was planned from the very beginning - go to his discord or itch.io comments and look at what he had to say about this topic when the game first launched. The general story was already thought out and it was planned as a harem from the very first update.

If anything it is posts like the ones you are making that are trying to get the dev to change his plans because it does not suit your tastes. It is fine to not like harems but just because you dont like it does not mean the dev is doing it just to pander to people. He is making the game he wants to make based on how it was planned from the very start. He is not making this a harem because he will face backlash from supporters if he does not. Please do not make assumptions about the developer and put words in his mouth. If you dont like harems just choose a solo path and move on. You need to accept that the dev's vision is simply different from your preferences.

 

[SerHawkes]

I don't believe in the possibility of harems at all and have no idea how it can work. I don't see how girls can put up with this.
I'd rather choose my canonical LI towards the end of the game than be in a harem.

Translation: Less Child Support Payments.

 

[1tomadeira]

Here we go again...

Don't turn this thread into a dumpsterfire again please. Not fair to the dev, he just does his best, and understand it is impossible to please every single person. If you don't like it then move on...

You're just asking for mods to come and clean up everything.

 

[Kamuisaki]

I don't believe in the possibility of harems at all and have no idea how it can work. I don't see how girls can put up with this.
I'd rather choose my canonical LI towards the end of the game than be in a harem.

There is a hypothetical way for a harem to work, I would say. It should be that every harem members also have relation (not just sexual) with each others without the person who has the harem. Even then it would have problems because the main reason you are in a harem is for the person who has the harem. Perhaps a harem need to have a passion/ an activity that everyone has. Like here, everyone like Eternum, they would always have a way to be close to each others emotionally/intellectually and discover new things about themselve and the others.

Well the problems with harem games is to try to make a rational way for the harem to work, it's probably impossible and perhaps what we just need to do is appreciate something that would not in reality like fantasy.
EDIT : Well I say that but we still want fantasy to be well written so the last thing I say is a little stupid.

 

[PervyParadox]

Fuck, I wasted all that time skimming through the game to summarise the Maat scene as to why it really was consensual, and then the post got deleted as!

Omg dude I was about to say just that. It was so good I actually screened your message (yes I do that don't judge me).

Spoiler: Maat scene summarize, by sampow

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Made me want to replay the scene too just for funzies.

Edit : forgot to say all credits goes to sampow ofc, just putting it here cause it would have been a shame to lose that great debunking

 

[Ungawa]

You combine this with the Nova confidence with the eye theory from a few pages back, and you have a real interesting dynamic going on with Nova.

The scene is playing out because really, only Maat is being an honest actor here while Avary is the unwilling audience here. MC taking those frustrations out on crazy is just deserts. But Nova really, REALLY wants the D.

And it ain't Dione.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

told Chang the password, did ya? That's how you lost it.

No, I fucked up earlier.

Translation: Less Child Support Payments.

For this, there is a more effective protection. Condoms.

There is a hypothetical way for a harem to work, I would say. It should be that every harem members also have relation (not just sexual) with each others without the person who has the harem. Even then it would have problems because the main reason you are in a harem is for the person who has the harem. Perhaps a harem need to have a passion/ an activity that everyone has. Like here, everyone like Eternum, they would always have a way to be close to each others emotionally/intellectually and discover new things about themselve and the others.

Well the problems with harem games is to try to make a rational way for the harem to work, it's probably impossible and perhaps what we just need to do is appreciate something that would not in reality like fantasy.
EDIT : Well I say that but we still want fantasy to be well written so the last thing I say is a little stupid.

This works in another game, but there are only three harem members. Two girls in a relationship and a guy. But most choose this route only to pick up one of the girls at the end, as she is more popular.

But to make this scheme realistic with so many characters as in Eternum, I don't think it's possible.

 

[NøH9]

I juste want more ! is that the normal reaction ?