diras2010

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For legal reasons, I totally understand their censoring methods but for the sake of creators, there must be a hierarchy in terms of what should be acceptable or not.
Incest and bestiality as long as it is pictures or in game content, why not? But the limit should be pretty well underlined to not go overboard with lolicon or awful shit like this.
As controversial as it is, there are sites that can host such content, let me put an example, the Japan based DLSite web, that allows loli, furry, bestiality, guro and so, but that content has to adhere strictly to not IRL stuff and has to be censored (as by Japan's stupid censoring laws), but, on this side of the Pacific Ocean, things are a little more open, specially regarding censoring, and highly probably IRL content of such nature might have been on the site, or maybe that incest, rape, loli and so was on such high search hits on the overall searches on the page that it raised red flags, and made the higher ups to step in
 

DaFinker

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In the upper cavern named "no gag reflex," sure.

Plunging the lower depths however is a crime that will lead one to a lost path, so it is highly not recommended until the time is right.

:HideThePain:
Didn't he just explore the canyon a little? Spelunking in the caves was the wrong way to go at that point, but checking on the surrounding terrain wasn't a problem. ;)
 

Jaga Telesin

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Well, to be fair: nothing is more uncreative in AVN's as harem and incest. This genre is spammed with harem games and incest content.
They aren't supposed to be creative. They add more choices (and incest also adds a kink).
 

Jaga Telesin

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Creatives aren't supposed to be creative? :unsure:
Harems aren't creative. Incest isn't creative. They are structures or tools within which you can create. Think of them as different paintbrushes used on the canvas. The author/artist is the one being creative in how they use the tools, and what they come up with in the end.

To that end, there's nothing inherently wrong with offering either Harems, or Incest in an AVN, provided they aren't pushed onto the player with no opt-out. If you don't want a harem, don't make one. If you don't want to sleep with your sister/mother, don't. That is of course, the author was good enough to make them optional, otherwise you have to choose whether or not to even play the game.

But again, I don't see them as negatives - just as tools to use to expand a story's possibilities.
 

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That's what I said. It's just standard.
I think I interpreted you as labeling them "uncreative" as a negative trait, along with mentioning that the genre is spammed with them (like it's a bad thing). I don't see them as bad or good, just as useful tools. :)
 

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I think I interpreted you as labeling them "uncreative" as a negative trait, along with mentioning that the genre is spammed with them (like it's a bad thing). I don't see them as bad or good, just as useful tools. :)
If you look on the post I answered, you can see it was about the creativity of creatives. All I said is it isn't creative to create something mainstream. In AVN genre harem and incest is mainstream.
 

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Question, what does the monster tag here mean

what's the related content?
There's a non-human LI, Calypso, so that might be the only tag that applies. There are also "monsters" that show up in scenes (at Warthogs, on the Andromeda server, and a few other places), so those are in the game, but they aren't LI characters. Well, Alex has turned into a dinosaur once, so she can be a monster in Eternum. That could get kinky...
 

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If you look on the post I answered, you can see it was about the creativity of creatives. All I said is it isn't creative to create something mainstream. In AVN genre harem and incest is mainstream.
That is slightly simplistic. Creativity don't care about mainstream or not. If someone creative, who doesn't care about being mainstream or not, create a story with harem and incest, then it's creative, no matter if the kinks themselves are mainstream or not. Creativity is about treating the kinks in their own way, without pumping off others. It's more about how you do it than the kinks themselves.
 

Tremonia

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That is slightly simplistic. Creativity don't care about mainstream or not. If someone creative, who doesn't care about being mainstream or not, create a story with harem and incest, then it's creative, no matter if the kinks themselves are mainstream or not. Creativity is about treating the kinks in their own way, without pumping off others. It's more about how you do it than the kinks themselves.
Dudes, you're all getting very offtopic over my harmless pointer about harem and incest being mainstream in AVN's. Maybe we should go back to topic (the game Eternum). A little bit offtopic might be okay for the mods but this turns into a whole other conversation, and to be honest I don't see the reason to discuss this. Nothing wrong with mainstream and also not with making games for mainstream. Although I'll never get how incest could get such a major trope. Maybe it's just a vocal audience. I don't know, but that's also not the topic of this thread. So I'll just leave that topic unanswered now.
 
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