VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.6 Public] [Caribdis]

[Uriel ☁]

That begs the question, "If you go into Eternum as a virgin but say you had sex with someone in Eternum by the time you log off, are you still a virgin?"

That begs the question, if you come in Eternum do you come simultaneously in real life? Does that means coming in Eternum equals jizzing your pants in real life?

Oh that got me thinking, what if a girl finds Orion laying on his bed playing Eternum and decides to have fun with him. Meanwhile he's in Eternum doing something and he starts getting this pleasure sensation without knowing where it comes from.

What if he have sex at the same time in real life and in Eternum. That's double the sensation and a double sex scene.

Caribdis write this down cause we're unto something here

 

[dolfe67]

That begs the question, if you come in Eternum do you come simultaneously in real life? Does that means coming in Eternum equals jizzing your pants in real life?

Oh that got me thinking, what if a girl finds Orion laying on his bed playing Eternum and decides to have fun with him. Meanwhile he's in Eternum doing something and he starts getting this pleasure sensation without knowing where it comes from.

What if he have sex at the same time in real life and in Eternum. That's double the sensation and a double sex scene.

Caribdis write this down cause we're unto something here

I think your real body is totally disconnected from your eternum body, like your mind is in another body. Because if you can make your real body cum while playing eternum, it would be the same for bleeding or other body damage. And Orion already had sex in eternum and he didn't notice that he cummed IRL.

 

[Dylan741]

I think your real body is totally disconnected from your eternum body, like your mind is in another body. Because if you can make your real body cum while playing eternum, it would be the same for bleeding or other body damage. And Orion already had sex in eternum and he didn't notice that he cummed IRL.

If your body was totally disconnected Benjamins's death would make no sense, don't forget that painful experience in Eternum can lead to death irl too.

 

[dolfe67]

If your body was totally disconnected Benjamins's death would make no sense, don't forget that painful experience in Eternum can lead to death irl too.

I think he died because he was "disconnected", his mind is trapped in Eternum or just died. His physical body doesn't have any damage afaik. And it's said that the system should protect you from death in Eternum. Of course Benjamin is a special case, one of the mysteries of the story.

 

[Raziel_8]

I think your real body is totally disconnected from your eternum body, like your mind is in another body. Because if you can make your real body cum while playing eternum, it would be the same for bleeding or other body damage. And Orion already had sex in eternum and he didn't notice that he cummed IRL.

No not really, you can cum irl from a erotic dream, that doesn't mean you will get injured from said dream, i don't see a reason why or how playing eternum could transfer injuries (well besides possible brain damage from the implant, accidentally or intended), at the end it's both a fantasy happening in your head.

That being said, i think it was explained that you lose the feeling of your body, so maybe similiar to being paralyzed, so i'd say no jizzed pants.

If your body was totally disconnected Benjamins's death would make no sense, don't forget that painful experience in Eternum can lead to death irl too.

There is really no evidence that pain in eternum can affect or kill anyone, the MC had no problem after loging out after he got scewerd nor does death seem to affect anyone.
As for Benjamin, he got an instant death, he wouldn't have any time to feel pain.
I find it way more likely that they somehow used the the link to the neural implant and used that to kill Benjamin.

 

[Dylan741]

No not really, you can cum irl from a erotic dream, that doesn't mean you will get injured from said dream, i don't see a reason why or how playing eternum could transfer injuries (well besides possible brain damage from the implant, accidentally or intended), at the end it's both a fantasy happening in your head.

That being said, i think it was explained that you lose the feeling of your body, so maybe similiar to being paralyzed, so i'd say no jizzed pants.


There is really no evidence that pain in eternum can affect or kill anyone, the MC had no problem after loging out after he got scewerd nor does death seem to affect anyone.
As for Benjamin, he got an instant death, he wouldn't have any time to feel pain.
I find it way more likely that they somehow used the the link to the neural implant and used that to kill Benjamin.

Not exactly Orion and the other felt the strain after they log out from Eternum, also there's the fact that they use a neural implant that stimulates all the senses, and overloading the body capacity like it happened with the blast from the Pretorians on Benjamin can lead to death.
Considering that the set up is similar to The Matrix a theory like a detached real body from the Eternum one doesn't work so well at least in my opinion.
Imho the part the regard the sex scenes and why we didn't see anything in the real world could be that Caribdis is not interested in showing that ( maybe for now), so we need to wait and se when we will reach that point.

 

[Dylan741]

I think he died because he was "disconnected", his mind is trapped in Eternum or just died. His physical body doesn't have any damage afaik. And it's said that the system should protect you from death in Eternum. Of course Benjamin is a special case, one of the mysteries of the story.

Yeah it can be, but to me it seems too stretched, I'm not saying that you're wrong mind me, but considering the neural implant and the Matrix similar set up it's seems strange to me, we will see when we will go further in the game though.
Your theory is very interesting and could be totally true.

 

[EricGrey]

Because if you can make your real body cum while playing eternum, it would be the same for bleeding or other body damage. And Orion already had sex in eternum and he didn't notice that he cummed IRL.

Bleeding from physical injury is vastly different than the excitement of sex. Think of it like a wet dream. I think they would have a mess to clean up in their suits afterwards. It just wasn't mentioned.

 

[Durkzinh]

"She looks to me like shes about to confront the avengers"

 

[Raziel_8]

Not exactly Orion and the other felt the strain after they log out from Eternum, also there's the fact that they use a neural implant that stimulates all the senses, and overloading the body capacity like it happened with the blast from the Pretorians on Benjamin can lead to death.

The 'senses' the implant stimulates would be logical parts of the brain thought, the rest of the body is not really neded for that, so i don't think that the nervous system of the body would get overloaded and with the first dive where you got explained that you loose the feeling of your limbs my best guess is that it works like in sword art online or matrix.

About the killing there are multiple ways how that could go, some kind of charge from the implant which would lead to brain dead, or giving the brain the impulse to release adrenaline in large amounts, leading to a heart attack.
Well at least that's my best guess, but then it could be just as well some kind of supernatural thing...curious how Caribdis will explain it, if he does.

 

[CHAD-MAN]

Did Caribdis ever stated somewhere what the future fetishes would be? I mean he can go WILD with the VR thingy. Also, assuming IRL is not indeed part of Eternum, he really needs to start pushing for IRL sex scenes.

 

[RandoCard3]

That begs the question, "If you go into Eternum as a virgin but say you had sex with someone in Eternum by the time you log off, are you still a virgin?"

No. Virginity isn't a physical thing. It's just the lack of sexual experience. The way Eternum works, having sex in game is functionally the same as having sex out of it.

 

[Dylan741]

The 'senses' the implant stimulates would be logical parts of the brain thought, the rest of the body is not really neded for that, so i don't think that the nervous system of the body would get overloaded and with the first dive where you got explained that you loose the feeling of your limbs my best guess is that it works like in sword art online or matrix.

About the killing there are multiple ways how that could go, some kind of charge from the implant which would lead to brain dead, or giving the brain the impulse to release adrenaline in large amounts, leading to a heart attack.
Well at least that's my best guess, but then it could be just as well some kind of supernatural thing...curious how Caribdis will explain it, if he does.

I agree with you and yours it's a very interesting analisys, thing is Caribdis was able to create a set up that sound very plausible without giving out too much infos, so he can play it the way he wants keeping it coherently, wether it's only scientific or with a supernatural tint in it.
And he knows us ( and his Patreons) so well that he's leading us where he want, while we are thinking of all the possibles outcomes of the story and being hooked to the game as well, I would dare to say that we are all inside the Eternum universe.

 

[Deleted member 5259050]

That is purely speculation unless the game specifically mentioned it. By default (and as far as the MC and player is concerned) Alex is a virgin.

Why is that the default? Isnt that also pure speculation on your part? Because the reverse is also true - unless the game mentions she is a virgin there is a 50/50 chance she is not a virgin. Saying that any game where a LI has had a past relationship deserves an NTR tag is stupid - it would make most of the games on this website ntr games.

In any case I dont see what the point of this discussion is or why this is important. What she may or may not have done in the past is irrelevant. She is confirmed to not be in a relationship right now and given that this is a wholesome harem game, there will be no cheating/ntr involved. Let's just enjoy the game for what it is.

 

[Son of Durin]

That begs the question, if you come in Eternum do you come simultaneously in real life? Does that means coming in Eternum equals jizzing your pants in real life?

Oh that got me thinking, what if a girl finds Orion laying on his bed playing Eternum and decides to have fun with him. Meanwhile he's in Eternum doing something and he starts getting this pleasure sensation without knowing where it comes from.

What if he have sex at the same time in real life and in Eternum. That's double the sensation and a double sex scene.

Caribdis write this down cause we're unto something here

I asked about this before, and apparently the answer is "no", you don't make a mess of your suit. And I don't think that last bit is possible for you to sense - Nancy could be blowing MC for real while he's in the game doing Dalia, but he won't sense what's going on outside due to the effect of the neural implant being active, which I think is the same reason you don't cum, piss or crap yourself in the real world while you're in the game. It's kind of like your body more or less self-paralyzing during sleep so you don't hurt yourself. Yeah, I know - tell that to a somnabulist, but, generally speaking, you do more or less naturally paralyze from the neck down during REM.

 

[Son of Durin]

If your body was totally disconnected Benjamins's death would make no sense, don't forget that painful experience in Eternum can lead to death irl too.

I think that was probably a forced feedback by someone controlling the game because Ben was a raging douchebag. So is Axel, but he's a Bardot.

 

[Dylan741]

I think that was probably a forced feedback by someone controlling the game because Ben was a raging douchebag. So is Axel, but he's a Bardot.

That can be true, it was one of the possible scenarios that I considered as well, we will see it was curious because Max ( I don't remember his name sorry, the guy that's pestering Dalia) didn't die when he got his head smashed by the orc, and this mean that not every death that can occur in Eternum can automatically result in a deat irl.
But of one thing I'm certain, Benjamin's death wasn't casual, and I'm curious to see how it will play in the long run.

 

[Son of Durin]

That can be true, it was one of the possible scenarios that I considered as well, we will see it was curious because Max ( I don't remember his name sorry, the guy that's pestering Dalia) didn't die when he got his head smashed by the orc, and this mean that not every death that can occur in Eternum can automatically result in a deat irl.
But of one thing I'm certain, Benjamin's death wasn't casual, and I'm curious to see how it will play in the long run.

Hopefully with Axel finding out that it was his dad that sent the kill signal, then Axel goes apeshit on his dad, surprising him with a knife to the giblets. Axel then goes to a real prison and gets a number of very amorous boyfriends.

 

[JohnF95zone]

Why is that the default? Isnt that also pure speculation on your part? Because the reverse is also true - unless the game mentions she is a virgin there is a 50/50 chance she is not a virgin. Saying that any game where a LI has had a past relationship deserves an NTR tag is stupid - it would make most of the games on this website ntr games.

In any case I dont see what the point of this discussion is or why this is important. What she may or may not have done in the past is irrelevant. She is confirmed to not be in a relationship right now and given that this is a wholesome harem game, there will be no cheating/ntr involved. Let's just enjoy the game for what it is.

By default, everyone is a virgin (until they lost they virginity) and that is not a speculation. I did not make the rule about the tags, I only mentioned it and I did not asking for this game or any other games to be slapped with any tags either.

But yeah, it is pointless to discuss about who is a virgin and who is not since it will be speculative at best. I don't really care who is virgin or not, or the tags, as far as I am concerned this game is an adult game.

What I know as the player (based from playing the game), all the female LIs are known to be single, does not have former relationships and virgins so that this game is wholesome harem game, except of course Nancy not a virgin, but still a single mom (missing or dead husband).

 

[Raziel_8]

Hopefully with Axel finding out that it was his dad that sent the kill signal, then Axel goes apeshit on his dad, surprising him with a knife to the giblets. Axel then goes to a real prison and gets a number of very amorous boyfriends.

While that would be entertaining to watch, i doubt it was Axel's dad.
Pretty sure monitoring the game is way below his pay grade as the de facto highest in command, with the founder only shining through absence and commanding the Pretorians (i doubt that anyone besides the founder and maybe Idriel can do that).
And seeing how fast the kill command was given, i think the highest possiblity would be the founder, which seems to observe the MC with great interest from the very begining...or Idriel, which also seems to have a her own plans for the MC.

The only way i see how Axel's dad could be responsible is if they set Benjamin on sort of a black list, because they had enough of covering his ass time and time again, but i think Idriel or the founder are more likely.