VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.6 Public] [Caribdis]

[Hasbromate]

I have no idea why people are gushing so much over how great this update is. I have never skipped anything in this game and generally read through everything...until the office scene. Idgaf about the picture on the desk, it's supposed to be a nightmare scene, whatever. But the narrator is annoying, it drags on for too long, and the whole thing is irritating. I ended up just clicking through it as fast as possible, even all the scenes with the girls and whatever the hell Annie was going on about there at the end. So far that makes this the worst update...nothing until now managed to get me to skip because it was so trash.

Understandable complaints about this update. This is just me assuming things, but I feel like this update was more so of a showcase of the new (engine?) and the increased production value to his game. They were a bit behind schedule this time around, so they might've gotten a bit carried away with experimentation and put less emphasis on the writing, which did take a hit in this update. Or it could've been a creative decision to slow down the pace of the plot, who knows. I have faith in Caribdis for the next update, his track record has been top notch.

 

[OsirianObsidian]

He hates Dalia? He fucking hates Penny.

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[Dorfnutter]

Understandable complaints about this update. This is just me assuming things, but I feel like this update was more so of a showcase of the new (engine?) and the increased production value to his game. They were a bit behind schedule this time around, so they might've gotten a bit carried away with experimentation and put less emphasis on the writing, which did take a hit in this update. Or it could've been a creative decision to slow down the pace of the plot, who knows. I have faith in Caribdis for the next update, his track record has been top notch.

New engine? He's still using HS2.

Also development hit a snag a few months back (hardware related from what I've heard), hence the delay.

 

[-R1ck-]

I have no idea why people are gushing so much over how great this update is. I have never skipped anything in this game and generally read through everything...until the office scene. Idgaf about the picture on the desk, it's supposed to be a nightmare scene, whatever. But the narrator is annoying, it drags on for too long, and the whole thing is irritating. I ended up just clicking through it as fast as possible, even all the scenes with the girls and whatever the hell Annie was going on about there at the end. So far that makes this the worst update...nothing until now managed to get me to skip because it was so trash.

actual downright terrible take

 

[-R1ck-]

He hates Dalia? He fucking hates Penny.

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I'm agonizing reading all this bs.

 

[Steuan]

The NPC controller dingus.

Hmm... Do you think it works for him? How can you be so sure he's just a NPC? I mean, can a NPC wanna build a new world or some shit?

Lemme call Thanos real quick. I'm sure he can do somethig about it.

He would kill Thanos just in a second!

 

[Krytax123]

honestly out of all girls following dalia's route seemed most jarring as its least immersive for me. I mean if you dont want to make a "spicy bet" then you lose her path. (meaning there is no romantic approach, you either keep her path by scummy loophole in bets and fucking her throat or you dont keep her at all) You wanna be good friend to Chang, you lose her path. (i mean granted, it was obvious that if you give the password to her private server that you'd lose her path, i am more disappointed in chang here than dalia as i did not expect chang to just bring everyone) You decide not to physically assault someone, you lose her path. (seriously, what is wrong with not wanting to be a criminal and still want to get a girl? unless i punch the person in front of everyone and risk going to jail i cant use that criminal act to manipulate Dalia into accepting loss regarding out bet and this is only way to stay on her path?) I feel like its batshit crazy that dalia just forgives orion for "taking a dip" in the cabin without consent considering how many little things just outright remove her from the path. In contrast Nova feels like only way to not be on her path is to outright be asshole. i mean only 2 places where i see you can stop being on her path without just playing as an asshole 100% of time is by not saving her and/or by asking for pizza in 0.7
I think as a character Dalia is S tier but as the character storyline i feel its very weird and poorly executed.

Yeez why so serious? It feels like youre a bit over-sensitive from my pov.

Why wouldnt you want to make a spicy bet? The bet and "scummy loophole" are called flirting, youre making it sound like Dalia gave Orian the blowjob because of technicalities while it was obvious that she did it because she wanted to.

You said everything about the password yourself, maybe dont tell secrets of a girl to everyone when she asks you to.

Physically assault and not wanting to be a criminal ... is really the maximum of dramaqueen wording you could create for that sequenze of events. They are in a fighting gym and the other guy literally taunts orion to try it, im not sure where youre from but there is barely any country you would end up in jail over that lol

I never "took the dip" and cant say anything about it

Not trying to attack you but you kinda sound like the most sheltered person in existance

 

[misfolk]

Spoiler: Some of my thoughts about 0.8

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[Craysser]

ok, so i know i said i did not like the stanley parabole thing but i see lot of people hate it and skip it as if it is pointless so i have to elaborate something here

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[e6mill]

Hmm... Do you think it works for him? How can you be so sure he's just a NPC? I mean, can a NPC wanna build a new world or some shit?

Seems to me the choices are
- NPC
- Dead as a doornail

 

[Craysser]

Yeez why so serious? It feels like youre a bit over-sensitive from my pov.

Why wouldnt you want to make a spicy bet? The bet and "scummy loophole" are called flirting, youre making it sound like Dalia gave Orian the blowjob because of technicalities while it was obvious that she did it because she wanted to.

You said everything about the password yourself, maybe dont tell secrets of a girl to everyone when she asks you to.

Physically assault and not wanting to be a criminal ... is really the maximum of dramaqueen wording you could create for that sequenze of events. They are in a fighting gym and the other guy literally taunts orion to try it, im not sure where youre from but there is barely any country you would end up in jail over that lol

I never "took the dip" and cant say anything about it

Not trying to attack you but you kinda sound like the most sheltered person in existance

hahahaha "maximum of dramaqueen wording" is perfect description
when you try to create a satire making it sound satirical is kind of a point. But yeah, point still stands narratively speaking you cant be on dalias path unless you sucker punch someone which is kinda dumb. Pointing that out is nothing more than observation anyone can make. You do not punch the guy to protect her or in self defence, you literally do it to be a dick and then double down on being a dick by using it as manipulative loophole. I never said this path given is bad, i am saying it feels very bad that its only path you have with dalia

 

[e6mill]

hahahaha "maximum of dramaqueen wording" is perfect description
when you try to create a satire making it sound satirical is kind of a point. But yeah, point still stands narratively speaking you cant be on dalias path unless you sucker punch someone which is kinda dumb. Pointing that out is nothing more than observation anyone can make. You do not punch the guy to protect her or in self defence, you literally do it to be a dick and then double down on being a dick by using it as manipulative loophole. I never said this path given is bad, i am saying it feels very bad that its only path you have with dalia

It wasn't a sucker punch. Dude was facing MC and literally begging for it.

 

[Craysser]

He hates Dalia? He fucking hates Penny.

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i dunno if i am just picking wrong vibes here but this scream self-insert to me

 

[Craysser]

It wasn't a sucker punch. Dude was facing MC and literally begging for it.

semantics, if a president comes to you and say "come on punch me if you dare" fully knowing that if you do he will have you arrested and he is 100% certain that you wont punch him, just because he is facing you and daring you to punch him does not mean he is expecting to be punched.

 

[Krytax123]

hahahaha "maximum of dramaqueen wording" is perfect description
when you try to create a satire making it sound satirical is kind of a point. But yeah, point still stands narratively speaking you cant be on dalias path unless you sucker punch someone which is kinda dumb. Pointing that out is nothing more than observation anyone can make. You do not punch the guy to protect her or in self defence, you literally do it to be a dick and then double down on being a dick by using it as manipulative loophole. I never said this path given is bad, i am saying it feels very bad that its only path you have with dalia

Okay yeah, i can agree with you that its dumb to drop out of her path not doing it. It was more about the way your described it for me

 

[Craysser]

Okay yeah, i can agree with you that its dumb to drop out of her path not doing it. It was more about the way your described it for me

oh yeah absolutely, i was just trying to exaggerate to maximum how ridiculous it is to follow her path
obviously i like the spicy bet and its cool thing to have that option. One thing i want to say is that i am disappointed that not trying to manipulate dalia equals insta loss of her path. Like, okay give Orion option to get his way through these little loopholes i dont mind. But after replaying the game over and over and going through the same scenes especially after going back through the old scenes knowing how they develop i wish that you can just genuinely care for dalia and do things for her not for a bet. Like narratively speaking nothing needs to change and you can still end up in the same location without being manipulative asshole. For example instead of making spicy bet (option is already there to say "i dont need anything") make it look like you are doing it because you care for her. Then after competition just be there for her and she can give you BJ because she is grateful you are always there for her instead of honoring a bet that you scummed.

Ok yeah, when i write it down like this it does sound cringy and sappy

 

[Maviarab]

He hates Dalia? He fucking hates Penny.

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Well said.

However, unfortunately, we're dealing with AVN writers catering to (certainly here) anime pop-culture fanboys who honestly, don't have a clue. Just have to accept it and move on. I've only ever seen one VN do a D/s type relationship half-realistically....it's nearly all alpha male fantasy fullfillment catering to specific demographic.

 

[indio68]

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if we have tis , it means MC is on Harem route with all the gals?? ow can we see if we are on harem path with all the girls? with previous Sancho Mod you were able to check it...with Joker we can't (or i can see anything about this...don't really know if the mod works right to say the truth...no green choice popped up for now..but i only played a tiny bit of the update...i'm just after the Sirens attak...and any tips for my sound issue? (can't hear any sound, but only a weird Tac noise every 30 sec...music works fine.thanks

 

[-R1ck-]

hahahaha "maximum of dramaqueen wording" is perfect description
when you try to create a satire making it sound satirical is kind of a point. But yeah, point still stands narratively speaking you cant be on dalias path unless you sucker punch someone which is kinda dumb. Pointing that out is nothing more than observation anyone can make. You do not punch the guy to protect her or in self defence, you literally do it to be a dick and then double down on being a dick by using it as manipulative loophole. I never said this path given is bad, i am saying it feels very bad that its only path you have with dalia

canonically Orion punches Axel the first time they met for trying things on Annie, no questions, straight from the punch.

Him being an impulsive mf is a canon character trait of him, especially when said person in question is a jealous asshole, totally deserved punch.

 

[-R1ck-]

Well said.

However, unfortunately, we're dealing with AVN writers catering to (certainly here) anime pop-culture fanboys who honestly, don't have a clue. Just have to accept it and move on. I've only ever seen one VN do a D/s type relationship half-realistically....it's nearly all alpha male fantasy fullfillment catering to specific demographic.

"Well said"

and it's the worst character reading I've ever seen.