VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.6 Public] [Caribdis]

[ramvivat]

hi!
can anyone at least briefly recall the history of MC itself, are his parents alive?
although judging by the fact that not a single communication session with his mother or father was noticed, probably the parents are no longer alive.
and the wet nurse - maybe she is his aunt and her daughters are his cousins?

 

[Dorfnutter]

hi!
can anyone at least briefly recall the history of MC itself, are his parents alive?
although judging by the fact that not a single communication session with his mother or father was noticed, probably the parents are no longer alive.
and the wet nurse - maybe she is his aunt and her daughters are his cousins?

Orion's mother abandoned him and his father shortly after he was born, as was mentioned in his intro monologue at the beginning of 0.1.

His father is still alive and living in the UK but he is shown to be distant to Orion in a flashback in 0.6. There's speculation that he might not be his real dad, but there's no concrete evidence of that as of yet.

Nancy was Orion's babysitter and no, they are not related, nor are Dalia and Penny his cousins. Patreon ToS prohibits any sort of incest lewds so if Cari made them related then he would've been booted from the platform already.

 

[Allan Trumbull]

I don't like the fact that mc no longer using Implants to log ON to eternum servers after he gained to ability to travel between dimensions. As nova asked what will happen to mc of he died whil playing eternum without implant ??

 

[Silvallié]

I don't like the fact that mc no longer using Implants to log ON to eternum servers after he gained to ability to travel between dimensions. As nova asked what will happen to mc of he died whil playing eternum without implant ??

He will obviously die there if Calypso or someone with healing spells isn't there to wipe his ass if he bite the dust which is highly unlikely if it's not Thanatos.

 

[e6mill]

He will obviously die there if Calypso or someone with healing spells isn't there to wipe his ass if he bite the dust which is highly unlikely if it's not Thanatos.

They call people who can enter & leave Eternum at will "immortals". Maybe there's a reason for that?

 

[Takkatakka]

They call people who can enter & leave Eternum at will "immortals". Maybe there's a reason for that?

The simple fact is, we don't know yet. Orion talks about it with both Dalia and Nova and they assume that they would actually die for real, if they would die in Eternum after porting their real life bodies there.

Also Orion didn't look like he would've survived without Caly healing him either, even after porting.

Another thing that wasn't really talked about yet, is the fact that Orion is now looked for by the police.

 

[Silvallié]

They call people who can enter & leave Eternum at will "immortals". Maybe there's a reason for that?

He almost died at the end of 0.7 if it wasn't for him teleporting near Calypso. Yes he might be an "immortals" but I think his power ain't that developped yet for him to be considered one and it might open a door for a training arc in Calypso's King/Queendom.
If you remember her fairy tale in the cowboy server he might learn how to use the gems of doom making him invincible after all nobody told us in the game that just having one does nothing at all.

 

[e6mill]

The simple fact is, we don't know yet.

Exactly.

 

[Silvallié]

Idriel might bring more light into this we already know that he's in a loop like Subaru from Re: Zero she definitely has more informations since he keeps on forgetting everytime.

 

[AcuteAppleAngle]

yes but that is true on the topic of clones. but if you split in half and feel/think/experience everything both halfs do and then when you get back into one full version you, you maintain memories of those feelings, thoughts and experience then its not clone, its you. if you split in two and one half dies, you lose that half of you forever (theoretically speaking, ofc we would need cari to confirm or deny if that is how it works but its safe assumption) so both parts are objectively "you". how is it still NTR then?

It is simply the divide in will. If the split creates a being seperate from you, if it has it's own agency, can think and act alone, then you don't control it. Therefore it is a seperate person; it may be identical to you, but it is another you, not you.

If you do control it then you are one being, one 'soul', with two bodies. If you don't then you and this new 'clone' are seperate beings, seperate 'souls'.

That is the line which makes it NTR in my opinion.

 

[TangerineTango]

the look on their faces when satisfying fucks are given

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[Dorfnutter]

Another thing that wasn't really talked about yet, is the fact that Orion is low looked for by the police.

That's prolly either gonna get dropped like the pedo guy not showing up since the Blackridge adventure or certain elements are going to unwittingly get caught in the investigation that Orion will be forgotten (i.e. police managing to track him down to his school only for them to shift targets or abort once they spot Raul and Noah).

Idriel might bring more light into this we already know that he's in a loop like Subaru from Re: Zero she definitely has more informations since he keeps on forgetting everytime.

Do we? Because most of her and the Syndicate's talk could also be construed as prescience/foresight, which is something the Greek myths are big on (and this game has a lot of Greek myth references sprinkled throughout the story).

 

[ramvivat]

It seems to me that MC can also pull Calypso into the real world, using his trick when he brought girls into the world of Eternum. Maybe this skill of his works both ways?

 

[Silvallié]

Do we? Because most of her and the Syndicate's talk could also be construed as prescience/foresight, which is something the Greek myths are big on (and this game has a lot of Greek myth references sprinkled throughout the story).

It's how I understand it but I didn't knew about the prescience/foresight thing in Greek myths.
In the Rome server when you don't give the guy some money he told us the previous ones didn't do that.
Same for the merchant and his statues who already knows why you're here and the fact that we never bought from him until we finally do.
The little girl before the heist tell us that they always tried but always failed until they found the right time to give us the letter.
Idriel and her break the chain talk and her last interaction when she tell us that we always try to find a way out but it seems like the void fights back.
And the first connections flashes to Eternum (it was a pain to time it right).
With the extra knowledge you gave me I probably think too much.

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[Takkatakka]

That's prolly either gonna get dropped like the pedo guy not showing up since the Blackridge adventure or certain elements are going to unwittingly get caught in the investigation that Orion will be forgotten (i.e. police managing to track him down to his school only for them to shift targets or abort once they spot Raul and Noah).

Might be, but it could also be an angle for William to go after him in the real world.

 

[Dorfnutter]

It's how I understand it but I didn't knew about the prescience/foresight thing in Greek myths.
In the Rome server when you don't give the guy some money he told us the previous ones didn't do that.
Same for the merchant and his statues who already knows why you're here and the fact that we never bought from him until we finally do.
The little girl before the heist tell us that they always tried but always failed until they found the right time to give us the letter.
Idriel and her break the chain talk and her last interaction when she tell us that we always try to find a way out but it seems like the void fights back.
And the first connections flashes to Eternum (it was a pain to time it right).
With the extra knowledge you gave me I probably think too much.

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Prescience isn't limited to seeing the future, but could also cover the idea that the person who saw it may have lived through it and is using the knowledge of said events to affect the present. Considering that Idriel's true self is trapped in Limbo (and possibly the Syndicate members as well) and based on the infodump about that place (being able to exist beyond normal time and space), it could well be that it's them who are stuck in some sort of loop and is therefore aware of things that may come to pass, not Orion.

 

[AffreuxProlapse]

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Let's be honest, all the scenes are top tier. I like the threesome song more and more as I listen to it.
To be honest, I've decided to take a subscription to Cari after playing the update.
Been following since 0.5, time to make it right.

Prescience isn't limited to seeing the future, but could also cover the idea that the person who saw it may have lived through it and is using the knowledge of said events to affect the present. Considering that Idriel's true self is trapped in Limbo (and possibly the Syndicate members as well) and based on the infodump about that place (being able to exist beyond normal time and space), it could well be that it's them who are stuck in some sort of loop and is therefore aware of things that may come to pass, not Orion.

Then they must have seen every possible outcome, no ? What will change this time ? Has it already been changed in a significative way ?

Maybe all the immortals have a part in this. Maybe Idriel don't count on Orion's prowess alone ?
But Thanatos says "we" excluding Orion.
Ah Idriel is so enigmatic, I don't even know if she's an ally anymore to be fair.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Then they must have seen every possible outcome, no ? What will change this time ? Has it already been changed in a significative way ?

If the words of Idriel back at the College Party and that Syndicate member back in the Valley of Kings were any indication, one could construe that something is starting to change at least. Remains to be seen why they would pin their hopes on Orion of all people, but it's plausible that that may be explained in a future update (if not the next update).

 

[Mark17]

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Soon! Luna too have this face.
I can't wait!

 

[AffreuxProlapse]

Soon! Luna too have this face.
I can't wait!

Last time seemed pretty "satisfying" already