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Leinad_Sevla
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Even then, it´s all assumptions on our part because we don´t know what she knows. It´s fair to assume she might know something regarding Alex, but until I have proof I will assume she doesn´t really know if they´re banging or not.
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That's the definition of a "date," not a relationship. A relationship starts with a discussion and an agreement.
They don't, though. If they did at least one of them would have brought it up when he obviously goes out with the others (it's not even a secret at this point).
In anything like the real world, you'd expect so, especially Annie. I don't agree with Maccabbee that discussion and agreement necessarily precede a "relationship," much less one person perceiving a relationship--if I tell a girl that's been crushing on me for the past 8 years that I've also been crushing on her for the past 8 years (and we recently, and spontaneously, were intimate together), kiss her, ask her on "a date," we're intimate again, we're intimate again--she's going to see it as "a relationship." And I probably am too, and that's a big part of what attracts me to the Annie story. Except...
MorallyLucky's right--even if none of them know the details of what MC's doing with the others, they know he's spending a lot of time alone with a lot of attractive women. Even granting that none of them (except Nancy) seem to have any relationship experience, they have eyes, and in anything like the real world, they're going to have questions, they're going to deliberately suppress those questions, or they're going to decide they're cool with MC being with the others too. I don't know what other option there is.
And here's where I somewhat part company with Leinad_Savia: we have to assume, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that these are each reasonable people, and that none of them is dumber than a sack of hammers. They're going to see what MC's doing, and they're going to draw reasonable conclusions from it.
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Ok, there is something that I’m doing wrong and I don´t know what. I have the game 7.0 version and the 8.5 version. I start playing again and I beat the 7.0 version with all the gallery unlocked. Then, I move the save folder to the 8.5 version to continue but all the gallery is locked and I don’t know why. Any ideas?
sexypeanut
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You don't need to move the save folder, AFAIK. Each version of the game knows where the previous saves are.
If you just copy the save folders, the persistent file (the one that checks if you have unlocked the scenes) won't go with them (since it's not located on the save folder) and thus not unlock the scenes.
There is no need to move save folders. Ren'Py stores everything in two locations so you needn't do that. (The copy in the installation directory is so that you can play every Ren'Py game on an external disk, moving from one computer to another, without losing progress. The copy in your user directory is so you can uninstall and reinstall every Ren'Py game without losing progress.) And since what you are doing is unusual, it could be exactly what is causing your problem. The save folder contains a file with persistent data which is likely to contain some information that needs to be updated for newer versions. Maybe that doesn't work correctly if the old file isn't just found in the standardized location in your user directory, where it is expected, but also in the installation directory of the new version, where it is absolutely not expected.
After you messed around with files in non-standard ways, it is also possible that the copy of your persistent file in your user directory is now in a state in which everything is locked and that Ren'Py, seeing it's for version 8.5, takes that file to have precedence over the version 7.0 file in the installation directory of version 8.5. In that case, you may want to copy your persistent file from 7.0 over the one in your user directory, or just delete the one in your user directory and let Ren'Py repair things.
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e6mill
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Only 1 location on macs. But it's not in the .app folder, so you still don't need to juggle saves - unless the dev changes the location specifically.
So you believe, but unless something's been directly stated in 0.8 that I haven't seen yet, it isn't stated anywhere. I lean toward believing Alex wasn't and Penny was, but not very strongly in either case.
But it's irrelevant, because I didn't say anything about sexual experience--I said "relationship experience." We directly know that to be the case in Penny's case, because she's told us so. In Alex's case, it's an inference, but I think a reasonable one--first from the fact that she's a loner by choice (and this isn't just MC's observation; Dalia who's known Alex forever says so), and second from her monologue in the park (talking to Grandma), where she obviously just doesn't know how to process the fact that she likes a guy.
jarisi
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Thanks for the answers.
Ok, i don’t have the need to copy the saves. Still, the problem persists. I delete all Eternum files from my user directory, delete the 7.0 and 8.5 folders and after extracting the game again I started a fresh new game without any saves in my PC. I skip play till the end of 7.0 to continue in 8.5 and the scenes are locked still. I can continue playing without any kind of problem, but the gallery is locked.
Hah, how do you know? Based on the hints given, I think Penny and Alex are still virgins.
For Penny, one of the clues is when she says she’s never had a nude photo taken before because she never had someone she felt comfortable with ( bruv she is naughty type how come if someone/her bf fuck her and she doesnt even gave him a nude photo???) She also mentioned she had dated someone before, but the relationship didn’t last long.
As for Alex, honestly I’m a bit unsure, but I believe she’s still a virgin too. She seems like someone who’s really hard to approach. When her father called her a whore, she immediately denied it, saying she was just working as a waitress or something like that.
And yeah, lastly — it was Caribdis who said that Nancy is the only virgin, but I think it might actually be the other way around.
(I actually don't want to argue about this because it doesn't seem important, but it is quite disturbing when people say things like that without any evidence. Or maybe I just missed the clue?)
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A few weeks, IIRC, was the time she stated. Some of her lines at Warthogs suggest some experience on her part, but I'd bet (though not at very high stakes) "virgin" for Penny.
What makes me lean toward "not" for Alex is this (and a few of her following lines):
It just suggests more experience with men generally than would otherwise be expected of her character. Conclusive? Certainly not. But IMO it leans that direction.
Their respective first penetration scenes don't move the needle one micron for me--yes, they're both wild, but so is Nova's, and we know she was a virgin beforehand.
Yes, exactly. I don’t accept the argument that they’re "not virgins" just because of how their first sex scenes look. I mean, toys exist, you know. Like you said, Nova was also wild during her first time, yet she was confirmed to be a virgin.
The same thing applies to Dalia — she was very bold too. So, for me, it’s not a solid indicator.
Personally, I’d say it’s a 55/45 for Alex (leaning slightly towards her being a virgin), and 80/20 for Penny (much more likely still a virgin).
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Sure, if you read that as "sexually on edge", rather than "psychologically" on edge. She plays mind games with people. She gives them a carefully constructed impression for the sake of rebelling against her asshole dad and all the expectations that go with her "position" in society because of her parents. It's the reason for the tats and striking out on her own.
I don't think it particularly matters one way or the other, but I suspect all of the LIs, other than Nancy, were written as virginal - not that they hadn't dated or experimented a little, but that they hadn't yet given up the final prize.
Given where her hand was at the time, and where it went immediately afterward, I think that's a reasonable reading. Perhaps not the only reasonable reading, but certainly a reasonable reading.
Nancy obviously isn't; Annie, Nova, and Dalia are explicitly stated to be. Luna isn't stated one way or the other, but I haven't seen anyone suggest she isn't a virgin. And while I'm not confident of this with Dalia, I'd strongly suspect that neither Annie, Nova, nor Luna had "dated or experimented a little." Annie's too into MC, Luna's a social outcast, and so is Nova (though in a different way). I don't really think Dalia has either, but I don't have specific reasons I can point to.
Alex and Penny are unknowns, not specifically stated, and I doubt it ever will be--the player can reach whatever conclusion he likes. It's kind of interesting to see what data points people will pull out to support their beliefs, though.
Leinad_Sevla
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With the exception of the characters who clearly state if they are virgins or not, I think Cari gives room for us players to make our assumptions about the characters who say nothing.
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