VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.6 Public] [Caribdis]

[Dorfnutter]

Can Caly even come to our world? Orion can, but he is a human turned NPC hybrid, but can a character created as a NPC come to the real world if they have never been human?

If a character is presented to have the ability to jump across many realities, it is not unreasonable to assume that said character will likely jump into the real world in the future. It's basically a Chekov's Gun that a lot of people have been waiting to fire since her abilities were revealed.

She has?!? I thought she was with Nancy because her parents died or something.

Her parents are alive and well. It's just that they're basically like Orion's da who are too busy with work, but unlike Orion's da they care about her as seen in the flashback where her da was asking Orion to take care of her during their stay in Kredon.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

but unlike Orion's da they care about her as seen in the flashback where her da was asking Orion to take care of her during their stay in Kredon.

Of course we remember and took VERY good care of her, but he shouldn't know about it!

 

[KanyeT]

It seems like those 4 scenes are pretty much guaranteed. Only thing is... what I've seen from Caribdis so far, he wouldn't like for all the scenes to be so easy guessable months before the update comes out. Maybe he is throwing something in just to make sure people are not correct? Just like most people did not expect Nova getting two scenes back to back.

The scenes are pretty guessable since Cari is trying to spread the time between the girls evenly. If Penny didn't get a scene in an update, you would expect her to get one in the next update, etc.

The thing is, as we get closer to the Harem forming, we have to expect more girls to get scenes back-to-back. It will be unavoidable, so I don't see the point in trying to hide it after threesomes/foursomes become the norm.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

...How far are you into the story, exactly? Coz if you finished up to the latest update, you'd understand why that isn't exactly possible.

OK, I'm all caught up now. While you say that isn't exactly possible, I'm not sure it's actually impossible. That said, Jerry's more recent behavior makes me agree with you about throwing himself into extreme situations to try to level up. His motivations are a lot clearer now, too: he wants respect, something he apparently doesn't have IRL, but something he once had (at least, to a point) when he had been level 39. As the new leader of the Ishani, I think he'll be much more likely to find the respect he's sought. The WRE certainly will likely respect him as their point of contact on the Valley of Kings server. He's turned a corner in his character development and should hopefully be much better going forward.

 

[Dorfnutter]

OK, I'm all caught up now. While you say that isn't exactly possible, I'm not sure it's actually impossible

I said what I said because Eternum isn't a VRMMO and that Jerry doesn't have the same abilities that Orion has at the moment. And before you bring up Nova's "hacking" of Ogygia as proof that Eternum itself can be manipulated via tech (and thus vulnerable to "exploits"), there's a running theory that Idriel basically assisted Nova in that endeavor but made it look like the latter was the one who did it, likely to prevent the Founder from tracing the assist back to the former.

 

[Walterbrown]

we used to get a percentage counter with regards to the update,Has he stopped doing that?

 

[Satou Pendragon]

we used to get a percentage counter with regards to the update,Has he stopped doing that?

No, he's still doing that.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I said what I said because Eternum isn't a VRMMO and that Jerry doesn't have the same abilities that Orion has at the moment. And before you bring up Nova's "hacking" of Ogygia as proof that Eternum itself can be manipulated via tech (and thus vulnerable to "exploits"), there's a running theory that Idriel basically assisted Nova in that endeavor but made it look like the latter was the one who did it, likely to prevent the Founder from tracing the assist back to the former.

Fair, and I do realize that's much less likely since it's not a VRMMO. But there have been turns in the story that at least I personally didn't expect early on, so saying "impossible" is a bit silly. Anything is possible, so long as it fits within rules that Caribdis has created for the story. I'm sure there are still rules that haven't been revealed yet. I wouldn't assume anything, regardless of what running theories (i.e., not necessarily truths) currently suggest.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Fair. But there have been turns in the story that at least I personally didn't expect early on, so saying "impossible" is a bit silly.

The point being is that the direction of the story has been leaning more and more towards the supernatural and fantastical rather than sci-fi. Every single foreshadowing, every single plot twist and resolution all had a supernatural/fantasy slant to it that you can argue that this AVN is a supernatural/fantasy game masquerading as a sci-fi story. So to basically undermine that by having a twist that goes "SIKE! Just kidding the VRMMO is in fact a VRMMO so Jerry can use exploits" just doesn't compute, honestly.

 

[Capt_Kirk]

It’ll be interesting to see how Calypso fits into the story now that she’s back in her realm. I don’t think Calypso's story will end here,

Now we know that Cali couldn't use the exit portals because she isn't an astral projection , Cali was physically there on eternum , my question is : if Mc can bring people from the real world into eternum , can MC bring Cali into the real word? .
that would be an excellent twist , Cali celebrating Christmas with the Carters .
maybe is there when Cali put her star on top of Mc Christmas tree !

 

[e6mill]

Now we know that Cali couldn't use the exit portals because she isn't an astral projection , Cali was physically there on eternum , my question is : if Mc can bring people from the real world into eternum , can MC bring Cali into the real word? .
that would be an excellent twist , Cali celebrating Christmas with the Carters .
maybe is there when Cali put her star on top of Mc Christmas tree !
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[JillybeanEnjoyer]

Now we know that Cali couldn't use the exit portals because she isn't an astral projection , Cali was physically there on eternum , my question is : if Mc can bring people from the real world into eternum , can MC bring Cali into the real word? .
that would be an excellent twist , Cali celebrating Christmas with the Carters .
maybe is there when Cali put her star on top of Mc Christmas tree !
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You guys have some odd Christmas decorations.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

The point being is that the direction of the story has been leaning more and more towards the supernatural and fantastical rather than sci-fi. Every single foreshadowing, every single plot twist and resolution all had a supernatural/fantasy slant to it that you can argue that this AVN is a supernatural/fantasy game masquerading as a sci-fi story. So to basically undermine that by having a twist that goes "SIKE! Just kidding the VRMMO is in fact a VRMMO so Jerry can use exploits" just doesn't compute, honestly.

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[Kenji4546]

anyone have save file and complete scene?

 

[Satou Pendragon]

anyone have save file and complete scene?

Yes, I'd guess nearly everyone here who's playing it.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

anyone have save file and complete scene?

There's a walkthrough for all current content, and Ctrl-skipping is a wonderful feature available in Ren'Py. If you don't care anything at all about the current story, it won't take you very long to get all existing content and make a save for yourself.

 

[Dorfnutter]

You're thinking too literally, though, as an "exploit" meaning something specifically technology- / computer-related. What I'm saying is that there's too much blurring of the lines to rule certain things out. The cube technology that suddenly makes an NPC mindlessly follow commands would, under a normal gaming view, be considered a "hack" or "exploit". And yet, it's been demonstrated at least twice already to "bend" things to a user's will. So for all the vehemence you use trying to argue against things I've said, you seem conveniently to ignore things like this.

Cube "tech" is something that's based on "existing Eternum 'tech'" as per Linus' words, so it counts as a magical artifact (or more accurately, a copy of one), and not truly tech (hence why I'm ignoring it). Also, can you really count it as an exploit when the ability to use it exists in the normal game (see: Caly's prison) and that the reason the Praetorians are having a fit about it is not because it gives players an "unfair advantage" but because it threatens to upend the VRMMO's masquerade?

Pretending that there's no possible way anyone could take advantage of a weakness in the system — again, I'm not saying this is a VRMMO or anything similar, and I'm not saying (anymore) that Jerry himself does this — seems to me to be ignoring information we already know.

That's not what I was arguing tho? I was arguing that Eternum is a supernatural plane of existence so you can't manipulate its very nature using code or tech (otherwise The Founder would be god already). Granted, you can use science to do shit like mass-producing Xenomorphs and the like, but as the mysterious guy at the Ulysses party said that's just basically people using tech on tech rather than the kind of godlike stuff you can do using devtools or hacking if it was an actual game.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I said what I said because Eternum isn't a VRMMO and that Jerry doesn't have the same abilities that Orion has at the moment. And before you bring up Nova's "hacking" of Ogygia as proof that Eternum itself can be manipulated via tech (and thus vulnerable to "exploits"), there's a running theory that Idriel basically assisted Nova in that endeavor but made it look like the latter was the one who did it, likely to prevent the Founder from tracing the assist back to the former.

You just not did my Wife that Dirty like that do you ? how dare you Downplay Nova abilities

 

[Dorfnutter]

You just not did my Wife that Dirty like that do you ? how dare you Downplay Nova abilities
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I mean if Idriel really has some form of foresight/prescience then it tracks that she knows where Orion and his group were REALLY going (which is why I think she smirked at him before sending him off), hence why she would give them a helping hand (especially since she's the one making the portal system possible). The Praetorians and the mercs being sent there are basically just a formality at that point.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Cube "tech" is something that's based on "existing Eternum 'tech'" as per Linus' words, so it counts as a magical artifact (or more accurately, a copy of one), and not truly tech (hence why I'm ignoring it). Also, can you really count it as an exploit when the ability to use it exists in the normal game (see: Caly's prison) and that the reason the Praetorians are having a fit about it is not because it gives players an "unfair advantage" but because it threatens to upend the VRMMO's masquerade?

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That's not what I was arguing tho? I was arguing that Eternum is a supernatural plane of existence so you can't manipulate its very nature using code or tech (otherwise The Founder would be god already). Granted, you can use science to do shit like mass-producing Xenomorphs and the like, but as the mysterious guy at the Ulysses party said that's just basically people using tech on tech rather than the kind of godlike stuff you can do using devtools or hacking if it was an actual game.

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