I really must be the only person who doesn't think Orion is too muscly. Probably because I've always been a fairly large person, and I've been weightlifting for 28 years now, so Orion doesn't look "roided" as many are stating.
I'm a gym bro too and I've never, ever seen an actual natty standing (flexing or not) with such visible groovy external obliques plus a visible vein:
It's hard even for roiders, that's a Hadi Choopan grade abdominal area.
Also his shoulders, chest and arms, while possibly natty, are too bulky for his ripped abdominal area. It's like his upper part is from a body and his ripped abs are from another one, which is impossible without roids (bulky upper part and ripped abs), but the average roider has it without much effort thanks to test and clen.
I agree. I don't think he's too muscly either. My only critique with his model would be his lack of symmetry in his arms. Like he's got some massive boulder shoulders with skinny little forearms. Other than that, everything about your post is pretty spot on to how I feel about him.
He already has big forearms lol
What's big enough, Popeye forearms?