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Khayon

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May be we see it differently. Each girl have it's own trope. Annie is a standard childhood friend with a crush. Nancy is a standard MILF whose is hungry for a D. Luna is a strage girl with a visions in which she may or may not see her future fate to be with MC. Thus she is interested in him. Nova is a nerd who we basically pull out from her home. She fell for MC cause he is probably the first man she had much of communications until this time. Alex is a tomboy whose first sex scene as far as i remeber was more like a competition of who would cum first. She become addicted after that. All those routes are understandable.

Sisters thou... OK Dalia is the same age as MC and in the same class as him. They had more interactions. I can see the progression here.

But Penny... She is older. She is a model with bombshell appearances. You want me to believe she never had boys interested in her? And no expereinces in relationships? She fell in love only because we were simply polite with her during the photoshoot? Oh boy. I may not remember it correctly as i have played it a long time ago, but her first scene was when she came to kitchen in her underwear and she was embarassed. then was a photoshoot and after that she is already willing to give us a boobjob at student party. Yes, i called it sudden development. What did we do for her to fall over heels for us? Besides this beeing a porn game, that is.
Orion was probably the first man who's interested not only in her body but in her as a person, he sees her not as just some stupid bimbo but a girl who has much more behind her than her looks. It's very rare for her considering her Instagram messages full of pigs trying to buy her body or assholes like Marco or whatever this manager guy name is. Orion protected her from harassment, supported her, let her see her memories about a very important day. In my opinion it's enough to realize that you like this person and want to be something more than just friends with him.
 
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Khayon

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Good to be the only decent male in the whole of Kredon.
You rush from one extreme to another. Orion isn't the only one, obviously. But she couldn’t meet all the guys in the city. And he turned out to be the best candidate. And she herself said that she was interested in a relationship and had more important things to do.
 

Bromo

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I mean.. that's porn logic, but sure

I can name a few decent guys of the top of my hat
Chang, Mr. Hernandez, Noah, Raul, Mr. Keeting, Novas Dad, the Russian Gym guy

but on the other hand you have guys Benjamin, Axel, the Gym Boxer Douche, the Yoga Douche, Jerry (at least at the beginning, he did grow on me) etc.

so the decent guys are either taken or too old to have any relationship with most of the girls

and Penny said something along the lines that she had a boyfriend but it quickly ended and she decided to focus on her modeling carrier after that

while I can't say if her relationship development is realistic or not, at the very least it's serviceable
there is a development happening from the initial "yes, the kid that mom once did babysit" to "yeah, the guy who supports my carrier, is nice, charming, helpful and fun to be around with"

it's definitely not the worst relationship in an AVN I have seen
and obviously still a better love story than twillight ...do people still say that in almost '26?
 

The Senior Perv

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I honestly wouldn't give a crap if both Alex and Penny weren't virgins before meeting and having sex with Orion. They had their life before the start of the story; one didn't knew he existed and the other one hadn't seen him for years and both (Orion and Penny) were too young to be thinking about that. The girls could have met other people and have sex with them, but things didn't worked out of just did it as a one-time thing, just like it happens IRL. That doesn't take away the appeal and value from them from my POV (unlike some strange fans, who seem to think that once they discover a LI had her cherry popped by another guy before the MC came to her life).
 
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KhunAguero

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I mean.. that's porn logic, but sure

I can name a few decent guys of the top of my hat
Chang, Mr. Hernandez, Noah, Raul, Mr. Keeting, Novas Dad, the Russian Gym guy

but on the other hand you have guys Benjamin, Axel, the Gym Boxer Douche, the Yoga Douche, Jerry (at least at the beginning, he did grow on me) etc.

so the decent guys are either taken or too old to have any relationship with most of the girls

and Penny said something along the lines that she had a boyfriend but it quickly ended and she decided to focus on her modeling carrier after that

while I can't say if her relationship development is realistic or not, at the very least it's serviceable
there is a development happening from the initial "yes, the kid that mom once did babysit" to "yeah, the guy who supports my carrier, is nice, charming, helpful and fun to be around with"

it's definitely not the worst relationship in an AVN I have seen
and obviously still a better love story than twillight ...do people still say that in almost '26?
Twilight slander? I've found my people :love: :LOL:
 
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Khayon

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I honestly wouldn't give a crap if both Alex and Penny weren't virgins before meeting and having sex with Orion. They had their life before the start of the story, they could have met other people and have sex with them but things didn't worked out of just did it as a one-time thing, just like it happens IRL. That doesn't take away the appeal and value from them from my POV (unlike some strange fans, who seem to think that once they discover a LI had her cherry popped by another guy before the MC came to her life).
Looks like I'm one of these "strange fans". Knowing that one of the main girls is not a virgin is enough for me to drop the game or ignore the girl in romantic way at all. That's my kink and I play these games for such unrealistic scenarios. I didn't play 0.8.6 and maybe one of the girls openly says to MC that she's not a virgin in this version but as long as it's not stated openly it's enough for me to convince myself that she's only used dildos before and it's fine.
 

Impetu

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So if it took you 7 hours everyone else must have the same experience?
I don't think that is what he means, I remember when I played the last update I really wanted to enjoy the game, to read every dialogue, to understand the jokes, remember previous events, a game as good as this one I think it deserves the time to be enjoyed, so IN MY CASE, it took me more than a single night to finish the update, but not just playing it for the quick fap but to enjoy the immersion
 
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khumak

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I don't know about any speed readers here, but a 500 page book will usually take me 12+ hours to finish. An author of novels can do more in the same time as an author of AVNs because you have significantly less things to do to create the piece of art.
I'm not a speed reader but I can easily read a 300-500 page book in 1 sitting. Not a 1000 page book though. I find that how fast I read depends on how often I read. If I've been too busy to read for a long time I slow down. If I've been reading a lot I speed up. Obviously code is a bit different since code is not all dialog/story. There's logic/game mechanics in there that the user doesn't necessarily ever see directly.

So 20k lines of code might be more like 5-10k lines of dialog and the other half game mechanics. But from a dev standpoint the logic/game mechanics are probably harder to write than the dialog. So I would argue that writing 20k lines of code is probably harder than writing 20k lines of a book. For a game you have to switch back and forth between thinking about the story and dialog vs thinking about logic and game mechanics. For a book it's just all story.
 

mr.dash

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Guys how many times have you all replayed this game? No cap. Me personally---- 2 times... one of them is because I just played till 0.6 without saving once... and didn't even know what AUTOSAVE was...
 

e6mill

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Guys how many times have you all replayed this game? No cap. Me personally---- 2 times... one of them is because I just played till 0.6 without saving once... and didn't even know what AUTOSAVE was...
A metric assload of times. There are non-obvious details...
 

Padorublad3

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Guys how many times have you all replayed this game? No cap. Me personally---- 2 times... one of them is because I just played till 0.6 without saving once... and didn't even know what AUTOSAVE was...
If we are talking about completed playthrough,then twice
First time when it was 0.5
And the second time after a long break,0.8, and I started over
 
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Henchmen13

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Guys how many times have you all replayed this game? No cap. Me personally---- 2 times... one of them is because I just played till 0.6 without saving once... and didn't even know what AUTOSAVE was...
Three times "full" but i have replayed and jumped around a lot with saves in order to see unique lines of dialogue.

I have discovered the game on 0.7 and then did full replay before 0.8 and just finished another one right now before 0.9

Speaking of updates, Chang. Do you guys think we will get information about how his relationship with Michaela is progressing this update?
 

kuriAUS

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Well, even if the download links pop up here really quickly, I'm going to wait a few days because downloads last time were extremely slow due to high traffic.
 

KhunAguero

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Guys how many times have you all replayed this game? No cap. Me personally---- 2 times... one of them is because I just played till 0.6 without saving once... and didn't even know what AUTOSAVE was...
3 times, but only because the first time i somehow didn't go full harem mode. The 2nd time was to fix my error, the 3rd time was just me being thirsty :ROFLMAO:
 
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