VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.9.4] [Caribdis]

[Jonmanchu]

I have no doubt Caribdis could pick up Daz and learn to get good with it. But they've very different programs and proficiency with HS2 wouldn't transfer to being good with Daz at all. So it'd take time, and likely slow production down for at least a while.

The entire conversation is moot anyway since Caribdis has made their thoughts on moving to Daz pretty clear. They're not a fan.

Whatever suits him,Its just my cra

Yeah, keep dreaming.

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I mean, it all boils down to personal preference. Cari likes the art style of HS2 as opposed to Daz3D that he's fine with not even getting published on Steam. He's also mentioned (tho I can't find the exact quote) that if he's gonna switch renderers it'll be for a Honey Select 2 successor (or something similar that allows him to use the same art style) with a flexible modding and character creation system, not Daz3D.

TL;DR, let devs like what they fucking like.

first up I am not forcing him to switch renderers.so relax

 

[LusterDemon]

you sure? cause i'm positive i got the option to tell penny to fuck off in red with the mod...

 

[Rehwyn]

...with unnatural proportions that go well beyond overdoing it with a breast size slider or something.

This is hardly just a Daz thing, but a thing with AVNs in general. Nancy and Penny hardly have realistic proportions, for example.

I think it might be a little less jarring to see unrealistic proportions in HS games though because you have less expectation of women looking realistic.

 

[Daermon420]

This is hardly just a Daz thing, but a thing with AVNs in general. Nancy and Penny hardly have realistic proportions, for example.

I think it might be a little less jarring to see unrealistic proportions in HS games though because you have less expectation of women looking realistic.

The anime style look definitely helps. I think HS breasts having some jiggle and apparent softness to them is also a factor. Daz breasts, if the animator isn't excellent, look stiff and plastic like a barbie doll. Which is even more apparent if they're huge.

 

[torpedogoat]

This is hardly just a Daz thing, but a thing with AVNs in general. Nancy and Penny hardly have realistic proportions, for example.

I think it might be a little less jarring to see unrealistic proportions in HS games though because you have less expectation of women looking realistic.

That's not what I meant. What I meant is that frequently in Daz models, different parts of the body just don't fit together. Similar to a knee bending the wrong way, only more subtle. It gets particularly bad with Daz animations, but is already a problem with static images. That's why for me, HS looks more naturalistic than Daz. (In addition to more beautiful. These are two somewhat independent concerns, although natural and beautiful are obviously related to each other.)

The anime style look definitely helps. I think HS breasts having some jiggle and apparent softness to them is also a factor. Daz breasts, if the animator isn't excellent, look stiff and plastic like a barbie doll. Which is even more apparent if they're huge.

For me, it's not anime style but actually a more natural style given that Daz looks so unnatural. Although I accept the principle. It's probably why I prefer even Koikatsu to Daz: Stylized is better than failed naturalistic.

And yes, breast movement is another issue. Basically, all Daz women have silicone breasts unless they are totally flat.

 

[Rehwyn]

The anime style look definitely helps. I think HS breasts having some jiggle and apparent softness to them is also a factor. Daz breasts, if the animator isn't excellent, look stiff and plastic like a barbie doll. Which is even more apparent if they're huge.

Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if the breast physics in HS made a difference. Unlike something like Blender, you have to manually do that in Daz or maybe use a bridge.

It can be animated well in Daz, but it's more work than many basic devs will do. I actually often prefer Daz games to just stick to static renders for this reason.

 

[Maccabbee]

Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if the breast physics in HS made a difference. Unlike something like Blender, you have to manually do that in Daz or maybe use a bridge.

It can be animated well in Daz, but it's more work than many basic devs will do. I actually often prefer Daz games to just stick to static renders for this reason.

 

[Finuee]

No it isn't. Dalia had a hairstyle change in 0.3 (which made her look so different people thought Cari changed her face model until the man himself said no) but she didn't get a scene. Nancy debuted her long hairstyle in 0.6 but she didn't get a scene. Annie changed her hairstyle to long braids in 0.7 but she didn't get a scene. There is no pattern, Cari just likes to change a character's looks from time to time, is all.

And I'm very glad he does. It looks way more natural that way. I mean, nobody keeps the same hairstyle day after day, no matter what you're doing that day.

 

[LonesomeSpirit]

Artstyle and design are one of the best things about Eternum. Game looks so much better than other AVNs. Don't want Caribds to ever change.

 

[Dorfnutter]

And I'm very glad he does. It looks way more natural that way. I mean, nobody keeps the same hairstyle day after day, no matter what you're doing that day.

Unless you're the player character (in which case you're excused).

At least he changes his clothes tho.

 

[Finuee]

Unless you're the player character (in which case you're excused).

At least he changes his clothes tho.

Even him had a change of haircut at some point, though.

 

[Bobolkich]

About the outfits and luminosity in the sneakpeaks, it looks more like spring than winter to me.
Do you think we should expect quite a big time skip with the hyrilar arc ? (And so no ski party)

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

i played that... no joke around 3am, because i was just playing a bunch of vn's that day..
Man,my butt was clenched the whole time, i knew she was gonna show up at some point while taking pictures... but not exactly when..
also i expected a usual jumpscare, not that we would be able to see her on the side of the screen first.
Man. that was a NICE mission.

But isn´t there a jumpscare at some point? I´m pretty sure there´s a part where Orion turns back and the thing is just there behind him. Regardless, the sound design of that mission is pretty nice. It makes you feel like the thing is always watching you while you´re there, which it probably was. But I hope he doesn´t do that again lol

She has gotta be scrutinizing Orion for trying to persuade her into some sexy fun time

He´s just spinning his dick around like a helicopter while saying "you want some of this?"

What an angel

What will she look like after having Orion´s meat dish?

Great,taking Luna's virginity + having 3some during NNN

Yeah, you can forget about that

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

HS vs DAZ clearly depends on the creator though. What HS seems to do best is the animations, the movements in sex scenes are much more fluid.

 

[LusterDemon]

Wait....so if you don't do Penny's path you miss this content involving Luna?

 

[Mannol0]

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Wait....so if you don't do Penny's path you miss this content involving Luna?

Wait... what do you mean "don't do Penny's path"? That's heresy

 

[iIIusory]

Hopefully he ventures into Daz,Coz he can pumpout more content with the same time that he is currently spending on HS2,Think about it, We are getting 2k Renders for 1 year where as in Daz DPC pumping 5K+,The more the merrier,I am not into the quality debate or aesthetic difference between HS2 and Daz.This is me,I want more content

if he were to ever switch from hs, it should be to blender like projekt passion's dev

 

[Rehwyn]

Wait....so if you don't do Penny's path you miss this content involving Luna?

To expand on this, as the game goes further and further on, even more content will likely include multiple LIs, but only if you're on both their paths.

I virtually guarantee a Penny/Nova threesome is coming up you'll also miss out on by being off Penny's path, for example.

Wait... what do you mean "don't do Penny's path"? That's heresy

Honestly, it's a full harem game with great LIs, so replacing "Penny" with any other LI in that sentence is also heresy.

 

[ciberma7865]

About the outfits and luminosity in the sneakpeaks, it looks more like spring than winter to me.
Do you think we should expect quite a big time skip with the hyrilar arc ? (And so no ski party)

We're not even sure that time work the same way between orion's world and hyril'ar so wait and see

 

[seniorboop]

The anime style look definitely helps. I think HS breasts having some jiggle and apparent softness to them is also a factor. Daz breasts, if the animator isn't excellent, look stiff and plastic like a barbie doll. Which is even more apparent if they're huge.

Pretty much all Daz animations look like this. You either get what I can best describe as wax figurines being rammed into each other at variable speed or extremely unnatural overcompensation added in post that manages to look worse than no physics at all.

If the primary concern isn't profitability, HS wins every time IMO.