VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.9.4] [Caribdis]

[danb35]

toy for the rich

Interesting then that few of the people we encounter there are rich. I'm sure Alex got hers for free or otherwise on account of being a Bardot, and MC and Nancy lucked into theirs free or almost-free, but Penny, Dalia, Annie, and Luna all presumably bought theirs at the regular market price (as well as Gertrude's husband buying two, and he has to be pissed at Gertrude and/or Nancy). None of them appear to be "rich;" they're all squarely middle-class, or perhaps upper-middle-class.

And even in 2025 dollars, $3500 certainly isn't cheap, but it's in reach for a middle-class adult who decides that's what he (or she) wants to spend it on. A teen or pre-teen? Maybe not so much.

 

[Dorfnutter]

So if the economy is doing great and gas prices are so low, do we really think there's been so much inflation that $3500 is "not that much?"

I mean it's definitely not much for people earning cash from Eternum or have side jobs. Orion seems to think it's a big deal but I chalk that up to him not exactly earning money around the start of the game compared to the girls (i.e. Penny with her photoshoot stuff and allowance, Dalia likely from competition prize money, Annie and her grinding, etc).

None of them appear to be "rich;" they're all squarely middle-class, or perhaps upper-middle-class.

I was under the impression that they're upper middle, actually (with exception to Alex who is currently in solo life survival mode).

 

[maxthruster]

Interesting then that few of the people we encounter there are rich. I'm sure Alex got hers for free or otherwise on account of being a Bardot, and MC and Nancy lucked into theirs free or almost-free, but Penny, Dalia, Annie, and Luna all presumably bought theirs at the regular market price (as well as Gertrude's husband buying two, and he has to be pissed at Gertrude and/or Nancy). None of them appear to be "rich;" they're all squarely middle-class, or perhaps upper-middle-class.

And even in 2025 dollars, $3500 certainly isn't cheap, but it's in reach for a middle-class adult who decides that's what he (or she) wants to spend it on. A teen or pre-teen? Maybe not so much.

The one who interests me the most is Nova. We know how Orion and Nancy got theirs, Penny has a good revenue stream, Alex has connections, Annie spent years saving for hers, Luna's was likely a gift from her family, and Dalia probably worked to get hers or maybe won it in a competition. Nova, however, strikes me as unlikely to have paid for it herself - her social anxiety would make it difficult for her to keep a stable job and save up that much - and her family doesn't seem super wealthy. Not to say that either of those is out of the picture, but they seem less likely to explain it for her than for others. She's not exactly the competition type, and seems like she's no stranger to hacking Ulysses servers; makes me wonder if she perhaps obtained hers through fraud.

 

[Dorfnutter]

She's not exactly the competition type

Counterpoint: She was pretty competitive when she was gunning for the processor chip back at the college party in 0.5, which means the idea of her obtaining the implant through a similar fashion isn't in the realm of impossibility.

 

[maxthruster]

Counterpoint: She was pretty competitive when she was gunning for the processor chip back at the college party in 0.5, which means the idea of her obtaining the implant through a similar fashion isn't in the realm of impossibility.

Fair, but she wasn't alone then and has gained a lot of confidence since meeting the gang. Prior to it I'm not sure she'd sign up for a similar competition - and she'd almost certainly drop out rather than keep participating in the lie detector test.

 

[shanksyou]

We'll see this angel soon..

 

[Dorfnutter]

Fair, but she wasn't alone then and has gained a lot of confidence since meeting the gang. Prior to it I'm not sure she'd sign up for a similar competition - and she'd almost certainly drop out rather than keep participating in the lie detector test.

By similar I mean a competition where the prize is some sort of tech (i.e. the implant) that she's interested in, not that the mechanics are similar. I mean, this is the woman who managed to get Dione on her lonesome, so her getting the implant through effort just depends on how much she wanted it at the time.

Not to mention she's a good artist, so it wouldn't be in the realm of impossibility if she used that to earn cash or join a contest where the prize was the implant (albeit anonymously, given her lack of confidence and all that).

 

[e6mill]

We'll see this angel soon..

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Can't wait to eat that extra-spicy taco.

 

[ruby_rubicon]

Can't wait to eat that extra-spicy taco.

If it's spicy she should call her OBGYN.

 

[Dorfnutter]

We'll see this angel soon..

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Can't wait to eat that extra-spicy taco.

If it's spicy she should call her OBGYN.

 

[ChipLecsap]

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[danb35]

I was under the impression that they're upper middle

But none of them are "the rich." OK, Victor apparently is, so maybe he bought one for Luna as a gift. That still leaves Annie, Dalia, Penny, and Nova who have managed to come up with the money to buy one. Sure, MC sells it to Penny as an investment, to help her Insta and other social media earnings, but she still has to have the money to do it.

Expensive toy? Certainly. But within reach of the the middle-to-upper-middle class--even to teenagers in that class--if they really want it.

 

[Dorfnutter]

But none of them are "the rich." OK, Victor apparently is, so maybe he bought one for Luna as a gift. That still leaves Annie, Dalia, Penny, and Nova who have managed to come up with the money to buy one. Sure, MC sells it to Penny as an investment, to help her Insta and other social media earnings, but she still has to have the money to do it.

Expensive toy? Certainly. But within reach of the the middle-to-upper-middle class--even to teenagers in that class--if they really want it.

They still have to work for it, though. I mean, technically a lot of things perceived as for-the-rich (i.e. expensive cars, gadgets, jewelry) can be acquired if you grind hard enough. But yeah, that doesn't stop those things being perceived as such by the majority. /shrugs

 

[danb35]

They still have to work for it

Of course. I guess we're thinking a little differently about "for the rich," though; I see that as meaning that only "the rich" can afford it, while it sounds like you're seeing it as based on the public perception. Fair enough.

 

[Padorublad3]

We'll see this angel soon..

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Baby Luny

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Close. It's Nova, Alex, Penny, Cali, Annie, Dalia, Nancy, Luna.
Nova and Annie are the smalls; Luna, Alex and Dalia are the mediums; and Penny, Nancy and Cali are the larges.

I clearly misremembered Luna´s size. She does have one of those bodies that´s better than it seems at first.

yep,the update came out when chainsaw man was on hype

As a fan, I appreciate that reference.

 

[danb35]

I clearly misremembered Luna´s size.

When Penny and Nancy are in the mix, everyone else looks small.

 

[AVNplayer69]

Well,we are talking about 2035,not sure inflation would hit that hard,but it's still probably not that much compared to current times

Then,what stops adults from letting teens play when they are not playing themselves. IIRC,eternum doesn't link to exact person

The neural implant is permanently linked to the user. That's why Annie couldn't let Orion experience Eternum before or why Orion can't let Chang into the game. Nobody else but the user can use their respective implant and connection

 

[HaremMonarch]

Either they are in too deep and haven't played the earlier part of the game or the game in general in a long asl time n forgot completely somehow, or they haven't played it at all lol. It was explained extremely early on that it's permanent. And it's kinda obvious & should be common sense. Just think about it for one minute lol. I urge you to replay it from the beginning, and it will be pretty self-explanatory on why it's permanently linked to whoever gets the implant, and just play for like one or two hours (without skipping). I think saying something like that definitely warrants a refresher, so you can be incorrect as little as possible in the discussions of the game. (Nobody is right all the time, but you can still do your best to be as knowledgeable as possible)

 

[Tier1selection]

I like this game, because the story is awesome, the relationships and their building, the humour, the references etc, it is all quite well made. The only thing that I don't like are the CG models. I am not fan of this type of art that is quite close to anime design but still with more realistic shapes, but it ends up being in the middle of both. I could only imagine if this would have been done with other DAZ CG models, would have been probably the best game ever.