Henchmen13

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Could this be foreshadowing? ... or is it simply the author's preference for Luna?
The gem thing, in the Red Herring, happened because Syndicate member showed up to give them a hint. Also before the Vampire/Warewolf choice, there is coin toss, where your choice don't matter. After the section you chose, there is someone that track Orion and they are even shown.

I think the Syndicate is messing with things in the background. Remember the envelope (given before the heist) with the instruction to not open it now, and how it can't be given later, because things won't work that way. This, along with a few other hints, point how either "the story is in time loop" or "Orion is not first potential Hero/Savior with ton of others having failed before him".

Also, Orion did get phone call early in the story, which point toward there being IRL members of the Syndicate, as well as ones in-game. Regarding the implant, i honest think this was just the author's way of kicking the story off. If you fail it, there is funny scene and then you can try again, meaning that not gaining the implant was never option.
 

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I played through it again and felt there's something unusual about Luna: She was the one who gave the protagonist the login device; she led the protagonist to the Red Herring to obtain a destruction gem; she introduced the protagonist to Nova—a hacker who possesses Dione; and even the first time the protagonist freely entered the eternum world was during a trip to Mexico with her. This is too crucial, greatly driving the story forward. Could this be foreshadowing? Could she be a member of Syndicat, or is it simply the author's preference for Luna?
No, she is just the best, easy as that. :whistle:

And this is literally the first thing she says to MC. It could be relevant to the situation of the NPCs...
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Yeah...well...in a way she's apparently correct, even if she just said it as a joke. :unsure:
 
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Well, you guys, Luna's character is defined by her strangeness, right? It could definitely have greater meaning, but I think counting every strange interaction with her isn't a productive way to theorize about her motives.

But I definitely do think something might be up with her too! cool theories
 

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Well, you guys, Luna's character is defined by her strangeness, right? It could definitely have greater meaning, but I think counting every strange interaction with her isn't a productive way to theorize about her motives.

But I definitely do think something might be up with her too! cool theories
Yeah, if she touch people she see visions, except with Orion.
 
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Well, you guys, Luna's character is defined by her strangeness, right? It could definitely have greater meaning, but I think counting every strange interaction with her isn't a productive way to theorize about her motives.

But I definitely do think something might be up with her too! cool theories
Anybody sayd anything bad about luna? My pitchfork is ready and we didnt burn anyone alive this month, whos the one who comited heresy about luna?
 

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Also, Orion did get phone call early in the story, which point toward there being IRL members of the Syndicate, as well as ones in-game.
Actually it's theorized on Cari's Discord that the phone call could've been a bleeding incident given that Orion was tired from the train ride (which would make him quite sleepy but not TOO sleepy) and conveniently alone in the park. So the Syndicate reaching out to him while he's partially bleeding into Eternum doesn't sound strange given what we know so far.
 

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I played through it again and felt there's something unusual about Luna: She was the one who gave the protagonist the login device; she led the protagonist to the Red Herring to obtain a destruction gem; she introduced the protagonist to Nova—a hacker who possesses Dione; and even the first time the protagonist freely entered the eternum world was during a trip to Mexico with her. This is too crucial, greatly driving the story forward. Could this be foreshadowing? Could she be a member of Syndicat, or is it simply the author's preference for Luna?
Also Lunas uncle... Somehow I think he is a big Player in Eternum. Or he really just owns a Cartel.
 

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Also Lunas uncle... Somehow I think he is a big Player in Eternum. Or he really just owns a Cartel.
My personal theory is that he really is just carter guy. Also that the next update will feature foreshadowing, or rather more so give what he saw with Raul and Noah during Annie's date, about upcoming conflict in the underworld which may impact Orion and the girls somehow. Possibly leading to Orion becoming involved with the criminal underworld. Which can be huge, consider that he can smuggle drugs across border checks, or maybe even take drugs from the game and export them in real life.

Given how the developer hinted big cliffhanger for 0.10 (the update after the upcoming one) i like to think that something will happen irl.

Also personal crackpot theory, Huygo has two daughters, Eva and Matt exist. Coincidence? I think not! Both of them seem to dislike their irl life, which can happen if you are kid of someone involved with carter and there's chance that either SWAT team or rival Cartel will pay visit to your house with shotguns in hand.
 

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My personal theory is that he really is just carter guy. Also that the next update will feature foreshadowing, or rather more so give what he saw with Raul and Noah during Annie's date, about upcoming conflict in the underworld which may impact Orion and the girls somehow. Possibly leading to Orion becoming involved with the criminal underworld. Which can be huge, consider that he can smuggle drugs across border checks, or maybe even take drugs from the game and export them in real life.

Given how the developer hinted big cliffhanger for 0.10 (the update after the upcoming one) i like to think that something will happen irl.

Also personal crackpot theory, Huygo has two daughters, Eva and Matt exist. Coincidence? I think not! Both of them seem to dislike their irl life, which can happen if you are kid of someone involved with carter and there's chance that either SWAT team or rival Cartel will pay visit to your house with shotguns in hand.
I think the underworld you mention will only become "minor plot" tho. I think the next update and further will be more "dimensional plot", since Calypso will be MG i think. And Annie's role is not small anymore, since people already saw what she capable of.
 

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actualy renting a cabin to get away from anoyng family and theyre rant with other relatives visiting, so il have some nice quiet time to yell at my wow guildmates when they fk up a rotation
Listen, it's not their fault, okay? Sometimes you just gotta drop Dimensius puddles in the middle of the raid because you ate paint chips as a child.
 

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Actually it's theorized on Cari's Discord that the phone call could've been a bleeding incident given that Orion was tired from the train ride (which would make him quite sleepy but not TOO sleepy) and conveniently alone in the park. So the Syndicate reaching out to him while he's partially bleeding into Eternum doesn't sound strange given what we know so far.
It really doesn't have to be a bleeding case. We know Eternum is just a collection of different worlds that exist elsewhere irl so the members of the syndicate just were able to contact Orion if they wanted to and just waited till he returned to Kredon. Also there might be a chance some members of the syndicate might also have "immortals" who doesn't support or agree with the ways of the Founder
 

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It really doesn't have to be a bleeding case. We know Eternum is just a collection of different worlds that exist elsewhere irl so the members of the syndicate just were able to contact Orion if they wanted to and just waited till he returned to Kredon.
Considering that Eternum is some sort of Astral Plane I would have to disagree. We know from what happened so far in the story that Orion only has contact with people and the realm of Eternum if he has some sort of out-of-body experience which happened when he ingested hallucinogenic mushrooms, when he had a standing nap back at the gas station, and when he was bleeding to death back at that alleyway.

Furthermore, there is little to no evidence that members of the Syndicate even exist in the "real world" as contact with them in the story has only happened IN Eternum, not outside of it. So until there is evidence to the contrary, them reaching out to Orion while he's potentially in a bleeding state tracks with what we know so far.
 

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Considering that Eternum is some sort of Astral Plane I would have to disagree. We know from what happened so far in the story that Orion only has contact with people and the realm of Eternum if he has some sort of out-of-body experience which happened when he ingested hallucinogenic mushrooms, when he had a standing nap back at the gas station, and when he was bleeding to death back at that alleyway.

Furthermore, there is little to no evidence that members of the Syndicate even exist in the "real world" as contact with them in the story has only happened IN Eternum, not outside of it. So until there is evidence to the contrary, them reaching out to Orion while he's potentially in a bleeding state tracks with what we know so far.
But Orion had zero experience or anything related to Eternum when he came to Kredon so how does he even get the bleeding case.? Also we saw in that dream machine that Founder had met with Orion when he was a kid, but that memory has been wiped out. So the members of Syndicate definitely kept track of Orion and started guiding him as soon as he arrived at Kredon
 
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