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She was new at work in that place and has rejected a few customers, yeah. Her dialogue (and the fact that she chose to work in that establishment) implied that she's pretty much not new to that kind of job, tho (and only decided to fuck Orion coz she stated that she hasn't had any experience with a dick of such size). So the anti-NTR brigade will still probably froth in the mouth if she ever happened to be main. :HideThePain:
Which is patently ridiculous. She was with someone in the past? If that's applicable to Eva, then that should eliminate Nancy as well. After all, she has two daughters, so she had to have done it at least twice before Orion came back in her life. Add in both Penny and Alex at least hinting of prior...experience. Guess they should be eliminated as well, right? Now, don't get me wrong. I prefer to not have sharing while playing, but someone's past? Please. If someone is taking it that far with an AVN, makes me really question...

Never mind. I have no need to get overly snarky.
 

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Which is patently ridiculous. She was with someone in the past? If that's applicable to Eva, then that should eliminate Nancy as well. After all, she has two daughters, so she had to have done it at least twice before Orion came back in her life. Add in both Penny and Alex at least hinting of prior...experience. Guess they should be eliminated as well, right? Now, don't get me wrong. I prefer to not have sharing while playing, but someone's past? Please. If someone is taking it that far with an AVN, makes me really question...

Never mind. I have no need to get overly snarky.
/Glances at past heated discussions in this thread about LI's virginities that constantly got mod nuked

Yeah, you'd be surprised at how "passionate" some people can get around these parts when it comes to that particular topic. Which is why I think having a main LI be someone who may have worked as an escort/prostitute in the past (and someone we first encounter working as such) might be "throwing gasoline in the fire," so to speak.

Not that I mind having such an LI tho. I just cringe at the idea of seeing the expected basement-dweller tier posts that'll probably show up more frequently in this place if that happens. :HideThePain:
 

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People are genuinely ridiculous if they would classify past encounters are NTR... Not to mention why the hell would you even want all LI to be virgins? it just limits the characters, and if anything Eternum does right it's the fact it treats LIs as characters rather then sexdolls
 

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Eternum – A Working Theory

Based on what we know and what the game subtly shows, Orion does not fit the category of a normal human protagonist. Everything points to him being something closer to an Immortal, or at least a new generation of one—not fully awakened, not fully aware, but fundamentally different.

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Calypso and the Dual Legacy of Idriel

Calypso stands as the other half of Idriel’s legacy. Unlike Orion, she is not a human altered into something more—she is a pure creation, and possibly Idriel’s most powerful one. The Founder’s words suggest that Calypso was not merely designed to rule, but to exist outside conventional systems, which is why her prison had to be constructed by the Immortals themselves.


Orion and Calypso mirror each other in inverse ways. Calypso is power without human limitation; Orion is humanity enhanced toward Immortal capability. Together, they represent two solutions to the same question Idriel was trying to answer: Can a being exist beyond the Immortals without becoming one of them?

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If so, Orion may not be meant to free Calypso out of rebellion, but out of correction. Not to break Eternum, but to finish what Idriel started—creating something that even the Immortals could not fully predict or control (Remember he didnt even got that close to the box but it oppeded itself)

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Orion’s unusual growth, his resonance with powerful entities (He saids ths on Hil'yl Rar that he feels stronger), and the sense of strength he experiences in key moments all suggest a latent inheritance—not just power, but access. He is not meant to dominate Eternum outright, but to eventually decide its fate in ways even the Immortals cannot. In this sense, Orion is neither pawn nor god, but a successor—created after the Immortals failed to fully control what they made.



Idriel – Mother, Echo… or Penny?

When it comes to Idriel, there is a second interpretation that cannot be ignored.

Either Idriel is literally Orion’s mother, trapped within Eternum after its collapse into control by the Immortals…

Or Idriel is not a separate being at all, but an echo expressed through Penny.

The visual and narrative parallels are too consistent to dismiss as coincidence. Idriel and Penny share striking physical similarities—facial structure, posture, and even color palette—suggesting a deliberate mirroring rather than simple reuse. More telling, however, are the clothing details. Penny’s disguise and later outfits echo elements Idriel consistently wears, down to specific ornamental choices that feel symbolic rather than practical. These are not random assets; they read like identity fragments.

Narratively, Penny is the first to push Orion toward self-destruction as liberation—“Break me”—while Idriel repeatedly urges him to “break the chain.” Different words, same intent. Both frame destruction not as violence, but as release from constraint.

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If Idriel’s consciousness was fractured when she became trapped inside Eternum, it is plausible that part of her embedded itself into Penny—either intentionally as a failsafe, or unintentionally as a side effect of system collapse. Penny would then function as a localized, human-scale anchor, allowing Idriel to observe, influence, and emotionally guide Orion without triggering Immortal-level safeguards.

In this reading, Penny is not a replacement for Idriel, but a vessel of proximity. Where Idriel operates at the mythic level, Penny operates at the intimate one. Both serve the same purpose: keeping Orion moving forward until he is capable of choosing for himself.

Whether Penny is Idriel’s fragment, her reflection, or her contingency plan remains unclear. But the symmetry is deliberate—and in a system as carefully constructed as Eternum, symmetry is never accidental.


Orion’s Father and the Cost of Creation


This framework also gives weight to Orion’s father and his apparent downfall. If Idriel was not only his partner but the core mind behind Eternum’s deepest architecture, then her loss would not have been merely emotional—it would have been existential. He didn’t just lose his wife; he lost the person who understood what Orion truly was.


His alcoholism reads less as weakness and more as collapse under impossible responsibility. He is one of the few humans who knows that his son is not fully human, that Orion carries abilities and access meant for beings like the Founder. Protecting Orion while hiding the truth from him—and from the world—would be an unbearable burden. Alcohol becomes an escape from knowledge rather than grief.

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This also explains why he both underestimates and fears Orion. He sees the child, but he remembers the design.

Idriel being his mother reframes almost every major mystery in Eternum. Rather than a distant creator figure, she appears to have worked directly with Orion’s father during the early stages of Eternum, likely in collaboration with either Ulysses or the Syndicate, before those groups fractured or redefined their goals. Orion, then, would not be an accident or a byproduct, but a designed being, meant to bridge human consciousness and Immortal-level access.


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Idriel’s or Orion’s Mom “death” is likely not a true death. Instead, she seems to have become trapped inside Eternum, existing as a Game Master–like entity: influential, knowledgeable, but not fully in control. This explains her limited interventions, her cryptic guidance, and why she pushes Orion toward breaking chains rather than directly acting herself. She is constrained by the system she helped build.






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Okay, that is impressive. If even half of what you have mentioned ends up being true then this shapes up to be even more epic. I truly do hope that it is 100% accurate.
 
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Raistlan71

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Okay, I have a curious question here, I am not sure if it is just me of whatever, but, has the main character undergone changes in design from early on, for example when the MC fucks Nancy in the elevator and the many times he even has sex his dick is massive, but then later on in the new updates like when he fucks Lorelei and Caly his dick is nowhere near as massive, sure they still say he is huge but it no longer is the size of a Cadillac.
 

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Let's shift topics to scenes you wish had happened. Maybe there was a moment in the game you thought could've built to something spicy but didn't, maybe you wish an existing scene happened differently(not just camera angles and whatnot, mind), or maybe it involves a girl outside the main 8 that you wanted to give a little extra content to. You could even talk about a scene you'd like in the future but you think is unlikely to happen - though, if you're going to just talk about some combination of the Carters, at least make it interesting and give some setup or something.

For my pick, I'd have really enjoyed a threesome scene with Penny and Regina. Probably not during the Halloween party, but sometime after Motor Madness. Penny finally gets fed up with her nemesis's teasing and fake kindness and attempts to woo her boyfriend and decides to give Regina exactly what she's asking for, and then Orion runs a train on her while Penny lords over the bitch and proves why she's better. I think that would have been a great addition - or possibly would make a great future edition, even if it's unlikely to ever happen.
 

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Okay, I have a curious question here, I am not sure if it is just me of whatever, but, has the main character undergone changes in design from early on, for example when the MC fucks Nancy in the elevator and the many times he even has sex his dick is massive, but then later on in the new updates like when he fucks Lorelei and Caly his dick is nowhere near as massive, sure they still say he is huge but it no longer is the size of a Cadillac.
Prolly just the shot/angle? His dick is pretty much the same size in other scenes.

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I've been replaying some of my favorite save files to collect the cutest screenshots of Annie and Luny, and that made me wish we had a chapter/update replay menu. Sometimes it isn't about the lewds, but more about the sweet and wholesome interaction between Orion and the girls that I miss, and it sucks having to skip through thousands of dialogue lines and tens of choices to get to the event I was looking for.

Anyways, here are the results so far (with a bonus of Alex and Nova. I wasn't looking for theirs, but came across two frames that were too adorable not to screenshot)
 

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I've been replaying some of my favorite save files to collect the cutest screenshots of Annie and Luny, and that made me wish we had a chapter/update replay menu. Sometimes it isn't about the lewds, but more about the sweet and wholesome interaction between Orion and the girls that I miss, and it sucks having to skip through thousands of dialogue lines and tens of choices to get to the event I was looking for.

Anyways, here are the results so far (with a bonus of Alex and Nova. I wasn't looking for theirs, but came across two frames that were too adorable not to screenshot)
Annie pretending to be angry is devastatingly cute. I wanted to pinch her cheeks and pat her head so badly during that scene.
 

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haha! gotcha!

i found it. that mysterious song what hearing like some chant throurg rain
there was word twinkle twinkle blablabla...
this scene with first MC bleeding on the gas station stop with Luna and Mr. Hernandez
can it be Twinkle twinkle little star lullaby song?
 
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haha! gotcha!

i found it. that mysterious song what hearing like some chant throurg rain
there was word twinkle twinkle blablabla...
this scene with first MC bleeding on the gas station stop with Luna and Mr. Hernandez
can it be Twinkle twinkle little star lullaby song?
dead space twinkle twinkle little star
 

Big_I_Guy

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what kind of bug fixes in 9.4? since i dont want really download all over again since the game is pretty big.
Thanatos's dialogue when he attacks the inn was causing the game to glitch, that's fixed now. There was also a bug with some of Luna's dialogue on the train that caused it to be unreadable, that's fixed too.

0.9.3 added a very brief addition to the Lyre sequence. If you input " C C G' G' A' A' G' " then "Stop" (the first line of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star) you'll trigger a very short flashback.
 

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I've been replaying some of my favorite save files to collect the cutest screenshots of Annie and Luny, and that made me wish we had a chapter/update replay menu. Sometimes it isn't about the lewds, but more about the sweet and wholesome interaction between Orion and the girls that I miss, and it sucks having to skip through thousands of dialogue lines and tens of choices to get to the event I was looking for.

Anyways, here are the results so far (with a bonus of Alex and Nova. I wasn't looking for theirs, but came across two frames that were too adorable not to screenshot)
I do the same thing. During a playthrough, I will make saves anytime there is a lewd/cute scene with any of the girls that I know wouldn't be added to the Gallery. That way, I can always jump to my favourite moments when I please without having to restart a whole new playthrough.
 
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if you input " C C G' G' A' A' G'" and then "Stop" you trigger a very brief Idriel memory flashback
Thanks for pointing this out. Not that it worked in 0.9.2 and before, but I'm honestly ashamed to say I didn't even try. Should have been downright obvious with how important the melody is throughout the game, but alas even Cari seemed to have missed it at first :unsure:

Dialogue says "Break the Chains". No big surprise there.

When I was checking this I also checked Calypso being listed among the main LIs now in place of "Others". Seems to only be for the stat screen though, as in 0.9.4 the gallery selection still does not grant Calypso her own slot. There it remains 7 + "Others" and two slots for "All Girls". Not that there are many scenes with her but I think she deserves her own place there as well. Hopefully that gets filled with some scenes when she can "break her chains" finally.
 
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