QSP Evil 2 [v0.75] [community project]

[noobtrain]

I apologize for not updating the latest version earlier — I’ll make sure to stay on top of updates and communicate with you beforehand.
As for the current feature, we can start with:

• Building connections with high society to grow your business
• Paying employees just enough to get by while maximizing profit
• Working with Tony behind the scenes
• Researching and developing your own drugs

It makes sense to create a third business that's isolated from the rest — I’m totally fine going in that direction.

Honestly, I’ve never played the Family Trouble route since I always start as a university student, and it feels like it takes forever to accumulate money.
And needing 12 prostitutes just to proceed means you basically have to grovel to Mabuta.

My aim is to create a route where the player can grow powerful with legitimate capital — so that by the time they start dipping into the illegal side, they’re already a behemoth who can slap Mabuta in the face.

It sucks being a small fish — but it’s even worse when the game forces you into a single path just because you’re a small fish.
That’s why I hope this can be an alternative route that eventually reconnects with the main story (I assume that’s the Family Trouble arc).

If I wanted to create a way to kill Mabuta right from the start of interraction— would that be considered game-breaking?

By the way, I’m just thinking out loud here.
I’ve been playing this game since before the Family Trouble route was even developed.

At one point, I even made a change where, if a girl had a sister, there is option to equire their contact which would generate her as a full NPC. Then the MC could get her contact and start corrupting the whole family — kind of like playing the villain in Family Trouble.

But then a new release came out with amazing features. I was torn between my changes and yours... and I gave up.
Since then, I’ve stuck to small changes. You’ve probably noticed I create new location wherever possible so I can keep my changes minimal. That way, when you release updates, I can just hook my stuff back in with minimal effort.

"It sucks being a small fish — but it’s even worse when the game forces you into a single path just because you’re a small fish."
"If I wanted to create a way to kill Mabuta right from the start of interraction— would that be considered game-breaking?"

Yes. He's the leader of the illegal whore and slave cartel and has more thugs under him than Tony. He is also well protected. You're a nobody when you start the game.

We're unsure of how to change the attitude that you and others have. Evil 2 is a harsh and cruel world. The "I refuse to pay Mabuta" attitude we're not sure what to do about.

Nearly all games have a direction that they want you to follow. There are quests that help you achieve the goals of the game. Even open world games like Skyrim and Baldur's Gate 3 have a direction that they want you to follow.

The game doesn't force the player to single path although it strongly encourages becoming a crime lord. Players can develop porn games, develop software, open product stores and factories, and other things and never get a single whore or slave. But by doing so they miss out on the 18 unique events and 2 major storylines in the game. You can refuse to get the Dragon Stone in Bleak Falls Barrow in Skyrim, thus bypassing the main quest of the game and just go around killing random mobs in the game world but it goes against the intent of the game.

Most people have a boss that they have to answer to IRL. We have to pay rent or a mortgage to have a place to live. There's a lot of things that we don't want to do and just because this is a game it doesn't remove all the negatives.

Players are welcome to hate Mabuta all they want but he's a part of the game and helps teach the player that they have to work their way up and pay their dues to someone much more powerful than themselves before becoming a crime lord.

So creating a way to kill Mabuta from the start goes against the game world.

"My aim is to create a route where the player can grow powerful with legitimate capital — so that by the time they start dipping into the illegal side, they’re already a behemoth who can slap Mabuta in the face."

Please don't do this. All the events and stories in the game are tied to the MC becoming a powerful crime lord. It takes a good amount of gameplay to achieve this. So if they take additional time following a new route, they'll never make it to the 18 unique events and 2 major stories in the game. We already have problems with players giving up before they get to the unique events and stories in the game. Doing what you suggest will make matter worse, not better. Being able to trigger the first event in the game requires a good amount of effort if they start immediately on the crime lord route. If they wait until later, they'll likely give up and drop the game. The reviews of Evil 2 are filled with players who never triggered the first event in the game and thought that the sandbox portion of the game is all there was. So making this take even longer by adding an additional route is counter productive IMO.

You said that you never made it to the 'Family Trouble' story which means you missed out on 50% of the game. You aren't playing the game as intended and some of your proposed changes go against the game world to fit your own playstyle. No offense is intended. You could create your own game page and create your own mod for the game and achieve what you're describing since some of your changes are trying to make the game fit into your unique playstyle instead of the game world.

We greatly appreciate your efforts and interest in the game!

 

[skybarbie]

I apologize for not updating the latest version earlier — I’ll make sure to stay on top of updates and communicate with you beforehand.
As for the current feature, we can start with:

• Building connections with high society to grow your business
• Paying employees just enough to get by while maximizing profit
• Working with Tony behind the scenes
• Researching and developing your own drugs

It makes sense to create a third business that's isolated from the rest — I’m totally fine going in that direction.

Honestly, I’ve never played the Family Trouble route since I always start as a university student, and it feels like it takes forever to accumulate money.
And needing 12 prostitutes just to proceed means you basically have to grovel to Mabuta.

My aim is to create a route where the player can grow powerful with legitimate capital — so that by the time they start dipping into the illegal side, they’re already a behemoth who can slap Mabuta in the face.

It sucks being a small fish — but it’s even worse when the game forces you into a single path just because you’re a small fish.
That’s why I hope this can be an alternative route that eventually reconnects with the main story (I assume that’s the Family Trouble arc).

If I wanted to create a way to kill Mabuta right from the start of interraction— would that be considered game-breaking?

By the way, I’m just thinking out loud here.
I’ve been playing this game since before the Family Trouble route was even developed.

At one point, I even made a change where, if a girl had a sister, there is option to equire their contact which would generate her as a full NPC. Then the MC could get her contact and start corrupting the whole family — kind of like playing the villain in Family Trouble.

But then a new release came out with amazing features. I was torn between my changes and yours... and I gave up.
Since then, I’ve stuck to small changes. You’ve probably noticed I create new location wherever possible so I can keep my changes minimal. That way, when you release updates, I can just hook my stuff back in with minimal effort.

I agree with noobtrain and his reply. Creating a new business type is perfectly fine as well as your other bulleted features but some of your other proposals don't fit into the game world (ability to kill Mabuta at first interaction and creating a new game start pushing off the crime lord path until later).

You're welcome to do all of that but please create your own mod page on F95Zone. This way it's separate from the game and players can choose to use it or not.

 

[drukoin]

Is there a compressed version?

 

[noobtrain]

Is there a compressed version?

I don't know if it works or not but here's the link:

https://f95zone.to/threads/evil-2-v0-75-community-project.41582/post-16916923

Then you'll just need to apply Patch 2.

https://f95zone.to/threads/evil-2-v0-75-community-project.41582/post-16992878

 

[Useck]

"It sucks being a small fish — but it’s even worse when the game forces you into a single path just because you’re a small fish."
"If I wanted to create a way to kill Mabuta right from the start of interraction— would that be considered game-breaking?"

Yes. He's the leader of the illegal whore and slave cartel and has more thugs under him than Tony. He is also well protected. You're a nobody when you start the game.

We're unsure of how to change the attitude that you and others have. Evil 2 is a harsh and cruel world. The "I refuse to pay Mabuta" attitude we're not sure what to do about.

Nearly all games have a direction that they want you to follow. There are quests that help you achieve the goals of the game. Even open world games like Skyrim and Baldur's Gate 3 have a direction that they want you to follow.

The game doesn't force the player to single path although it strongly encourages becoming a crime lord. Players can develop porn games, develop software, open product stores and factories, and other things and never get a single whore or slave. But by doing so they miss out on the 18 unique events and 2 major storylines in the game. You can refuse to get the Dragon Stone in Bleak Falls Barrow in Skyrim, thus bypassing the main quest of the game and just go around killing random mobs in the game world but it goes against the intent of the game.

Most people have a boss that they have to answer to IRL. We have to pay rent or a mortgage to have a place to live. There's a lot of things that we don't want to do and just because this is a game it doesn't remove all the negatives.

Players are welcome to hate Mabuta all they want but he's a part of the game and helps teach the player that they have to work their way up and pay their dues to someone much more powerful than themselves before becoming a crime lord.

So creating a way to kill Mabuta from the start goes against the game world.

"My aim is to create a route where the player can grow powerful with legitimate capital — so that by the time they start dipping into the illegal side, they’re already a behemoth who can slap Mabuta in the face."

Please don't do this. All the events and stories in the game are tied to the MC becoming a powerful crime lord. It takes a good amount of gameplay to achieve this. So if they take additional time following a new route, they'll never make it to the 18 unique events and 2 major stories in the game. We already have problems with players giving up before they get to the unique events and stories in the game. Doing what you suggest will make matter worse, not better. Being able to trigger the first event in the game requires a good amount of effort if they start immediately on the crime lord route. If they wait until later, they'll likely give up and drop the game. The reviews of Evil 2 are filled with players who never triggered the first event in the game and thought that the sandbox portion of the game is all there was. So making this take even longer by adding an additional route is counter productive IMO.

You said that you never made it to the 'Family Trouble' story which means you missed out on 50% of the game. You aren't playing the game as intended and some of your proposed changes go against the game world to fit your own playstyle. No offense is intended. You could create your own game page and create your own mod for the game and achieve what you're describing since some of your changes are trying to make the game fit into your unique playstyle instead of the game world.

We greatly appreciate your efforts and interest in the game!

Like I mentioned in my previous message, I personally consider both of you as the de facto admins. If you’ve decided on a direction for the game, I won’t push further — at the end of the day, it’s all a matter of perspective.

WARNING BELLOW IS JUST A RANT PLEASE SKIP TO THE END OF POST TO SEE ACTUAL FEEDBACK:

Spoiler: OLD MAN RANT SKIP A HEAD

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YOU CAN SKIP ALL THAT I SAY ABOVE AND JUST TREATED AS ENTERTAINING A PERVERTED OLDMAN THAT STILL PLAY ADULT GAME:

My serious sugestion:
If you want people to play as you intended then make the in game event that pull people and direct to the intended game play.

Maybe make an NPC approach you in the street if you don't have farm, and once you buy it you found secret room that full of document that start your journey as slave master.

Or maybe when you travel to SLUM your car break down and in way of looking shelter you found an abandoned Farm?

And Seriously since I never play Family Trouble Do I have to be Mabuta’s lapdog in order to complete the Family Trouble arc?
Or is there a way to come back and do it later, after I've built myself up another way?

end word : Feature development Canceled

 

[noobtrain]

Like I mentioned in my previous message, I personally consider both of you as the de facto admins. If you’ve decided on a direction for the game, I won’t push further — at the end of the day, it’s all a matter of perspective.

WARNING BELLOW IS JUST A RANT PLEASE SKIP TO THE END OF POST TO SEE ACTUAL FEEDBACK:

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YOU CAN SKIP ALL THAT I SAY ABOVE AND JUST TREATED AS ENTERTAINING A PERVERTED OLDMAN THAT STILL PLAY ADULT GAME:

My serious sugestion:
If you want people to play as you intended then make the in game event that pull people and direct to the attended game play.
Maybe make an NPC approach you in the street if you don't have farm, and once you buy it you found secret room that full of document that start your journey as slave master.

Or maybe when you travel to SLUM your car break down and in way of looking shelter you found an abandoned Farm?

And Seriously since I never play Do I have to be Mabuta’s lapdog in order to complete the Family Trouble arc?
Or is there a way to come back and do it later, after I've built myself up another way?

end word : Feature development Canceled

I only had a problem with 2 out of your 7 proposed features. We have very different mindsets on how the game world should work. Yes, the beginning of the game could use some events and help direct the player.

I could go into detail about our differences in game direction but it's pointless at this point.

skybarbie and I aren't trying to win a popularity contest. In fact, some of our decisions are unpopular. We stick around to protect the game world. We've had to tell other players "no" in the past. One player (in the past) made a change that could potentially get the game banned from F95Zone and get a worldwide "pedophilia" label placed on the game. Your proposed changes aren't that extreme and I'm not implying that they are.

But what happens is players often want to change things that they don't like that go against the game world. If too many of these changes take place then the game eventually loses it's identity. It isn't fun being the "bad guy" and telling people no. I take no pleasure in it.

You still had the option of creating your own mod page and changing anything you'd like. Any player has that option.

We are more than happy to welcome new features and content that compliments the existing game world. That's what skybarbie and I have been doing for the past several years.

No hard feelings and it certainly wasn't personal in any way. Best of luck to you and happy gaming!

 

[The Grifter]

end word : Feature development Canceled

Aww crap... I really had hoped this idea of yours would make it into the game.

At one point, I even made a change where, if a girl had a sister, there is option to equire their contact which would generate her as a full NPC. Then the MC could get her contact and start corrupting the whole family — kind of like playing the villain in Family Trouble.

 

[skybarbie]

And Seriously since I never play Family Trouble Do I have to be Mabuta’s lapdog in order to complete the Family Trouble arc?

Yes, until you build up your gang and assassinate him. This is explained in the Beginner's Guide. The player doesn't have to pay Mabuta forever if you build up your gang, assign a hitman, and assassinate him.

Or is there a way to come back and do it later, after I've built myself up another way?

The 'Family Trouble' story is waiting for you until you meet the requirements for it. You can bypass some of the requirements using the 'Start or replay the unique events and stories in Evil 2' feature in the 'Computer' menu. Using this feature to start a story or event that you haven't played before is basically a cheat for players who wish to bypass the majority of the grind (some required items are gifted to the player and some requirements are bypassed).

I highly recommend that you accept the game world and stop trying to fight against it. Mabuta runs the cartel over the illegal whore and slave business in the area you live in. He's very powerful and you're a nobody when you start the game. By your extreme hatred of Mabuta you're bypassing 50% of the game. You refuse to accept the game lore that this is necessary. I think you'd have an amazing experience if you played through the 18 unique events and 2 major stories in the game! But you have to work to become a powerful crime lord. This is the main theme of the game. Yes, you aren't forced down this path but you're missing out on a lot of content if you choose not to become a crime lord.

Latest game version (requires version 0.75 to be installed first):



New players please refer to the 'Installation' instructions on the opening post (OP) to perform a full installation of the game.

 

[noobtrain]

One of the things that isn't clear until you make a deal with Mabuta is that he pays off the police so they overlook your illegal whore and slave businesses. If you talk to Mabuta a 2nd time after making a deal with him, he'll also provide protection for your whores and slaves while they work from his Nigerian gang (a few of your whores and slaves may be used by them so they don't earn money however which is the untold cost of this protection). So players aren't paying Mabuta for nothing, some of the money does go into his pocket but at least 20% goes into paying off the police to look the other way. Even after killing Mabuta the player still has to pay off the police which costs 25% instead of 50% of what Mabuta was charging. 5% of the money goes to Mace's pocket (20% goes to police bribes to look the other way). So what the player has to pay out gets cut in half if you assassinate Mabuta which can be done mid-game.

So paying your dues to Mabuta isn't just throwing money away. Some of it gets used to pay off the police.

 

[Crown Royal]

I just found this game and started playing about a week ago. Thank you to the developers/mods for doing so much extra work on this. I've been reading a lot of posts when I see something I'm not sure about and search key words to learn more, so I've seen a bunch of your posts about things you've added or worked on. The game is honestly pretty fun. I also like that there are different paths you can take that make a different spin on things, like I'll have to try the student route at some point. So thanks for your hard work!

 

[Useck]

Sorry Guys — it was a long day yesterday. After taking some time to reflect on the changes and what other reply, I think Noobtrain made a good point. We can develop some parts of the concept and release them publicly, while keeping the "killing Mabuta" part as my private use. That way, the core game lore remains intact, in case Another people in the future updates expand Mabuta’s role.

Let’s move forward with a poll for the new legal business feature, possibly including some tweaks to the medical center. Here's a rough outline:
Proposed Feature: Legal Business – Pharmaceutical Front

1. New Business Type
   This will be a third business type under the Legal Business section.
2. Business Structure
   The business will consist of three main components:
   • Lab
   • Factory
   • Retail Outlet
3. Dual-Nature Operation
   The business has two sides:
   • legal front, producing cosmetics and health products
   • not so legal front, working secretly with Tony for more illicit dealings
4. Drug Research & Development
   You’ll be able to research custom drugs with unique effects.(Start as a test subject maybe)
   

   ⚠ This feature has huge potential — it can double as in-game cheats or buffs. But we’ll need to be careful with balance, as it could easily become game-breaking.

5. Introductory Quest
   A short questline will introduce the player to the business and its mechanics we can talk in detail about this.
6. Early-Game Support
   This is designed to help early players progress more quickly toward the requirements for other quests.

Let’s use this as a starting point and gather feedback on what features the community would like to see included or expanded or rejected.

 

[jmkarlsson]

Since Mabuta has become a hot topic I would like to put in my opinion of him as the game is currently and I must say I don't find assasinating him to be important when you look at the benefits.

Mabuta cons.
1. You have to pay him 50-80% of the income from whores.
2. You only have to pay Rogosov 25% of the above.
3. His death is required to advamce certain quests.

Mabuta pros.
1. You no longer have the worry of ANY of your whores and slaves being arrested.
2. The above cons doesn't touch your drug business or your brothel.
3. You can have a thousand drug dealers/couriers and only one cam whore and he doesn't come after you.

Due to this you can easily ignore him and he is no real threat to your income which means the only real reason to eliminate him is the quest requirement.

 

[noobtrain]

Since Mabuta has become a hot topic I would like to put in my opinion of him as the game is currently and I must say I don't find assasinating him to be important when you look at the benefits.

Mabuta cons.
1. You have to pay him 50-80% of the income from whores.
2. You only have to pay Rogosov 25% of the above.
3. His death is required to advamce certain quests.

Mabuta pros.
1. You no longer have the worry of ANY of your whores and slaves being arrested.
2. The above cons doesn't touch your drug business or your brothel.
3. You can have a thousand drug dealers/couriers and only one cam whore and he doesn't come after you.

Due to this you can easily ignore him and he is no real threat to your income which means the only real reason to eliminate him is the quest requirement.

Mostly correct but you got a few things wrong.

You can pay Mabuta through the whole game if you want and assassinating him isn't required by any event or story. I believe Mabuta charges 50% if you talk to him right away and 60% if you don't and he has to pay you a personal visit. I believe it was 80% when I took over but reduced it to a maximum of 60% if I remember correctly.

Your whores and slaves won't get arrested with police protection in place as long as you maintain a good relationship with the Chief of Police.

Mabuta gets a cut from the following slave/whore businesses:

• Gloryhole
• Street whores/slaves
• Camwhores

Mabuta doesn't get a cut from the following whore/slave businesses:

• Brothel (legal)
• Drug dealers
• Drug couriers

You are correct, a loophole is to only have one whore or slave working in one of the businesses that Mabuta gets a cut from and you basically don't have to pay him much of anything. When I've looked at player's save games over the years I've seen this multiple times and laughed.

 

[skybarbie]

Sorry Guys — it was a long day yesterday. After taking some time to reflect on the changes and what other reply, I think Noobtrain made a good point. We can develop some parts of the concept and release them publicly, while keeping the "killing Mabuta" part as my private use. That way, the core game lore remains intact, in case Another people in the future updates expand Mabuta’s role.

Let’s move forward with a poll for the new legal business feature, possibly including some tweaks to the medical center. Here's a rough outline:
Proposed Feature: Legal Business – Pharmaceutical Front

1. New Business Type
   This will be a third business type under the Legal Business section.
2. Business Structure
   The business will consist of three main components:
   • Lab
   • Factory
   • Retail Outlet
3. Dual-Nature Operation
   The business has two sides:
   • legal front, producing cosmetics and health products
   • not so legal front, working secretly with Tony for more illicit dealings
4. Drug Research & Development
   You’ll be able to research custom drugs with unique effects.(Start as a test subject maybe)
5. Introductory Quest
   A short questline will introduce the player to the business and its mechanics we can talk in detail about this.
6. Early-Game Support
   This is designed to help early players progress more quickly toward the requirements for other quests.

Let’s use this as a starting point and gather feedback on what features the community would like to see included or expanded or rejected.

Looks great! The reason why there's so many cheats in the game is so that players can customize the amount of grind they're comfortable with. Players can choose between heavy grind, medium grind, light grind, and almost no grind through the use of cheats. Early game support is welcome especially if it's done well and immersive.

I think you'd have a different perspective of the game if you played through all the events and stories in the game. I would split your time between development and experiencing all the unique events and stories. That way you'll get a full picture of the game and experience 100% of the content.

Best of luck!

 

[screwju]

No clue what I did, but I broke something. Every time the game loads images/videos for sex scenes, the entire thing crashes. Even starting a new save doesn't help. Luckily, I kept a backup copy of the game downloaded, re extracting that and patching seems to have fixed it (for now). Any ideas on why it might have broken? Also, am I supposed to be able to do something with girls in the farm who have gotten the broken message, but still refuse the slave contract?

 

[noobtrain]

No clue what I did, but I broke something. Every time the game loads images/videos for sex scenes, the entire thing crashes. Even starting a new save doesn't help. Luckily, I kept a backup copy of the game downloaded, re extracting that and patching seems to have fixed it (for now). Any ideas on why it might have broken? Also, am I supposed to be able to do something with girls in the farm who have gotten the broken message, but still refuse the slave contract?

Rarely you have to delete the temporary 'vlclog.log' file. Sometimes a reboot is required.

You have to train the girl in vaginal, oral, and anal sex. Get her a high corruption and lust stat. A low dom and will stat. And flog her at least 6 times.

 

[Istiffarmwhites]

Played this a while ago, picked it back up recently. Pretty good, a lot of freedom which I enjoy heavily. Some suggestions I have is:

1) When getting close with a NPC, you should be able to visit their home, in turn allowing you to meet their married partner, family, roommates etc.

2) Being able to actually catcall the women you see while walking around in the city/getting acquainted with someone you are driving around as a cab driver

3) Being able to choose between step/normal family for those who can't stand incest but are okay with step family. You should also be able to meet with your family or have a template where you are living with your family while attending university.

3.5) If you live with your family, and your relationship isn't high enough, IF you drop out of college they will kick you out.

Overall great game. Looking forward to future updates!

 

[skybarbie]

Played this a while ago, picked it back up recently. Pretty good, a lot of freedom which I enjoy heavily. Some suggestions I have is:

1) When getting close with a NPC, you should be able to visit their home, in turn allowing you to meet their married partner, family, roommates etc.

2) Being able to actually catcall the women you see while walking around in the city/getting acquainted with someone you are driving around as a cab driver

3) Being able to choose between step/normal family for those who can't stand incest but are okay with step family. You should also be able to meet with your family or have a template where you are living with your family while attending university.

3.5) If you live with your family, and your relationship isn't high enough, IF you drop out of college they will kick you out.

Overall great game. Looking forward to future updates!

#1 would be a great addition to the game and also #3 to a lesser degree (step/normal family suggestion only). #1 would require quite a bit of coding as their spouse and children aren't fully generated NPCs. If we made every spouse and child a full NPC it would slow the game to a crawl rather quickly.

One thing you don't understand is that your family doesn't live close to you. You moved out when you became an adult at age 17. They live far enough away that flying on an airplane would be required to visit them. The 'Family Trouble' story explains all of this in detail.

Useck is the only developer adding to the game currently. noobtrain and I are mostly retired but we still manage the project. Thank you for your feedback, support, and suggestions!

 

[Istiffarmwhites]

#1 would be a great addition to the game and also #3 to a lesser degree (step/normal family suggestion only). #1 would require quite a bit of coding as their spouse and children aren't fully generated NPCs. If we made every spouse and child a full NPC it would slow the game to a crawl rather quickly.

One thing you don't understand is that your family doesn't live close to you. You moved out when you became an adult at age 17. They live far enough away that flying on an airplane would be required to visit them. The 'Family Trouble' story explains all of this in detail.

Useck is the only developer adding to the game currently. noobtrain and I are mostly retired but we still manage the project. Thank you for your feedback, support, and suggestions!

Ah I see, I didn't realize that was the story. I kinda just enjoyed the freedom of building relationships with classmates as well as exploring. Much appreciated! Looking forward to future updates!

 

[James Cook 1232]

has anybody made a mod that adds content for the tf pills