QSP Evil 2 [v0.76] [community project]

[Егор37]

To add even more variety, so to speak!

 

[The Grifter]

To add even more variety, so to speak!

It seemed to me that the game will only pick preview pics from a fixed range of numbers - skybarbie and noobtrain , is that the case or am I mistaken?

 

[noobtrain]

• Sorry, but it doesn't work...It looks like it's not about the website! tell me how to add pictures yourself. If it's not difficult...

The problem is on your end. Downloading attachments on F95Zone works for the vast majority of players. There's a lot of potential reasons why it isn't working such as your anti-virus, Java being disabled, Java not installed, etc.

The problem is solvable though! Ask a computer guru to help you fix it. And before you say that you're a computer guru, you aren't if you can't solve the problem yourself. I'm not trying to be rude here.

Some ISPs and some countries block certain websites. It's possible that the site that hosts the attachments is being blocked. If all your friends have the same problem then this is most likely the case. Use a VPN to solve this issue.

I worked my way through college being a professional computer repair technician. I've repaired thousands of computers in my lifetime so I may know what I'm talking about...

 

[noobtrain]

There is an idea to expand the number of images! can I add new ones? Thank you for your reply!

It seemed to me that the game will only pick preview pics from a fixed range of numbers - skybarbie and noobtrain , is that the case or am I mistaken?

Correct. The image count isn't built dynamically. They are fixed numbers. So if you want to add new images or videos without replacing existing ones, then the code has to be edited.

QSP is a game engine, it isn't a full programming language. If it was Visual C++ (or other full programing language) I could easily search the directory/folder and dynamically build the picture or video count. There isn't an easy way to do this with QSP. QSP wasn't designed to search player's hard drives.

 

[noobtrain]

I hope someone can port this game into renpy or HTML in future. QSR is such a odd game format and difficult to play.

From a player's perspective I can somewhat (but not entirely) understand your viewpoint. Ren'Py and HTML are probably the worst two gaming platforms on F95Zone (for developers at least).

Ren'Py is basically a 'scene player'. It was designed for Visual Novels. It displays a picture or video on the screen with some text and then allows you to go to the next screen/scene, rinse and repeat. That's it! All the heavy lifting has to be done with Python scripts. Ren'Py isn't even capable of creating, editing, or saving custom variables, at least not without python scripts. There's no native support for a lot of things I can do in QSP (and do them easily in QSP)! So if I need to create, manipulate, or save a custom variable, I have to use a python script to do it (in Ren'Py). It would be near impossible to create Evil 2 in Ren'Py without losing most of the sandbox portion of the game! Developers of Ren'Py games not only have to learn the Ren'Py coding language but also the python scripting language.

But, but, why is Ren'Py so popular then with all the biggest games using it?

Great question! Because players just want to be entertained and Ren'Py fits that mold quite well. The vast majority of Ren'Py games are Visual Novels. There's a reason for that. Doing lots of code intensive programming on the back end isn't Ren'Py's strength (it's a major weakness). There's a ton of code that goes into the 'End of Day Earnings Report' in Evil 2 for example. Trying to do that in Ren'Py would be an absolute nightmare!

If you're capable of clicking on your left mouse button or hitting the space bar, you are capable of playing a Ren'Py game. The vast majority of the game is just going from screen to screen with new pictures, videos, and text - a Visual Novel. Players don't want to have to work for their porn! They just want to be entertained and Ren'Py visual novels fit that mold quite well! It doesn't take any skill to play them. You don't even have to read the text to play! They're similar to watching a TV show or movie, with a bit of added interaction. The majority of players just want to turn off their brains and be entertained -> Ren'Py Visual Novels.

Because the majority of players just want to be entertained with minimal effort, Ren'Py visual novels SELL!

HTML has similar problems. Most HTML games can't work on their own without an additional back end - TWINE in most cases. HTML, by itself, is a terrible game platform unless something else is added to it (TWINE, Java, or a scripting language). Like Ren'Py, it would be an absolute nightmare trying to create Evil 2 in HTML.

I can accomplish a ton in QSP without an additional scripting language or back end. It natively supports a heavy coding back end which is what Evil 2 is. Yes, QSP is an aging gaming platform. Yes, it has limitations. But it's quite powerful for what I need it to do. The developers of Evil have added 15 unique events and 2 major stories to the game in visual novel style. It takes more code to do this in QSP than it would in Ren'Py but I still have the programming support and ability to do it! I can also create, manipulate, and save custom variables easily and natively.

The main reason why players don't like QSP games is because they have to work for their porn. They can't just click on the left mouse button or hit the space bar to play it.

 

[The Grifter]

From a player's perspective I can somewhat (but not entirely) understand your viewpoint. Ren'Py and HTML are probably the worst two gaming platforms on F95Zone (for developers at least).

Ren'Py is basically a 'scene player'. It was designed for Visual Novels. It displays a picture or video on the screen with some text and then allows you to go to the next screen/scene, rinse and repeat. That's it! All the heavy lifting has to be done with Python scripts. Ren'Py isn't even capable of creating, editing, or saving custom variables, at least not without python scripts. There's no native support for a lot of things I can do in QSP (and do them easily in QSP)! So if I need to create, manipulate, or save a custom variable, I have to use a python script to do it (in Ren'Py). It would be near impossible to create Evil 2 in Ren'Py without losing most of the sandbox portion of the game! Developers of Ren'Py games not only have to learn the Ren'Py coding language but also the python scripting language.

But, but, why is Ren'Py so popular then with all the biggest games using it?

Great question! Because players just want to be entertained and Ren'Py fits that mold quite well. The vast majority of Ren'Py games are Visual Novels. There's a reason for that. Doing lots of code intensive programming on the back end isn't Ren'Py's strength (it's a major weakness). There's a ton of code that goes into the 'End of Day Earnings Report' in Evil 2 for example. Trying to do that in Ren'Py would be an absolute nightmare!

If you're capable of clicking on your left mouse button or hitting the space bar, you are capable of playing a Ren'Py game. The vast majority of the game is just going from screen to screen with new pictures, videos, and text - a Visual Novel. Players don't want to have to work for their porn! They just want to be entertained and Ren'Py visual novels fit that mold quite well! It doesn't take any skill to play them. You don't even have to read the text to play! They're similar to watching a TV show or movie, with a bit of added interaction. The majority of players just want to turn off their brains and be entertained -> Ren'Py Visual Novels.

Because the majority of players just want to be entertained with minimal effort, Ren'Py visual novels SELL!

HTML has similar problems. Most HTML games can't work on their own without an additional back end - TWINE in most cases. HTML, by itself, is a terrible game platform unless something else is added to it (TWINE, Java, or a scripting language). Like Ren'Py, it would be an absolute nightmare trying to create Evil 2 in HTML.

I can accomplish a ton in QSP without an additional scripting language or back end. It natively supports a heavy coding back end which is what Evil 2 is. Yes, QSP is an aging gaming platform. Yes, it has limitations. But it's quite powerful for what I need it to do. The developers of Evil have added 15 unique events and 2 major stories to the game in visual novel style. It takes more code to do this in QSP than it would in Ren'Py but I still have the programming support and ability to do it! I can also create, manipulate, and save custom variables easily and natively.

The main reason why players don't like QSP games is because they have to work for their porn. They can't just click on the left mouse button or hit the space bar to play it.

Harsh. Mostly true, but harsh.

Renpy/Python definitely is the easier way to develop content that is the center of this forum's reason-to-exist. And yes, that's porn. Give me some cookies, for I'm Captain Obvious.

I understand your post may come from a position of frustration - you and the other Evil2 devs obviously (for folks like me who spend some thoughts about what happens 'under the hood' while playing) invested a great deal of time and effort in creating what we freeloaders play and critizise - but it feels to me that what you write here diminishes some of the great examples of storytelling renpy releases offer.

Yeah, some 90%+ of the stuff leaked (not RELEASED) here is pure wanking mat, and out of those 90%, most are not even the good stuff. Just some sloppy DAZ/HoneySelect renders, or hastily thrown together realporn assets. But there are projects that are great pieces of gameplay and storytelling, and even examples that push the limits of what the renpy platform offers.

I won't go into detail what those great examples are, quoting/listing them would be against forum rules. My point is, by diminishing works that use 'simpler' platforms that are used more widely compared to something more complex like QSP, you do yourself a disservice by coming over as bitter and aloof. But having played the game you contributed so much to, I do not think that that is your intention at all.

Anyway, to finish up this post: yes, and that's no, Evil2 can't/won't be ported to another platform. Nothing offers the pure RPG possibilities that are utilized running its content under QSP. At one time, goog old TADS might have been a platform if it would have developed in a reasonable direction, but at this time that's the same as lamenting OS/2 didn't beat Windows as the dominant operating system.

 

[noobtrain]

Harsh. Mostly true, but harsh.

Renpy/Python definitely is the easier way to develop content that is the center of this forum's reason-to-exist. And yes, that's porn. Give me some cookies, for I'm Captain Obvious.

I understand your post may come from a position of frustration - you and the other Evil2 devs obviously (for folks like me who spend some thoughts about what happens 'under the hood' while playing) invested a great deal of time and effort in creating what we freeloaders play and critizise - but it feels to me that what you write here diminishes some of the great examples of storytelling renpy releases offer.

Yeah, some 90%+ of the stuff leaked (not RELEASED) here is pure wanking mat, and out of those 90%, most are not even the good stuff. Just some sloppy DAZ/HoneySelect renders, or hastily thrown together realporn assets. But there are projects that are great pieces of gameplay and storytelling, and even examples that push the limits of what the renpy platform offers.

I won't go into detail what those great examples are, quoting/listing them would be against forum rules. My point is, by diminishing works that use 'simpler' platforms that are used more widely compared to something more complex like QSP, you do yourself a disservice by coming over as bitter and aloof. But having played the game you contributed so much to, I do not think that that is your intention at all.

Anyway, to finish up this post: yes, and that's no, Evil2 can't/won't be ported to another platform. Nothing offers the pure RPG possibilities that are utilized running its content under QSP. At one time, goog old TADS might have been a platform if it would have developed in a reasonable direction, but at this time that's the same as lamenting OS/2 didn't beat Windows as the dominant operating system.

You missed the point of my post. It wasn't written out of frustration. It's the truth and facts coming from a developer's perspective.

I did not, in any way, diminish the works done by Ren'Py authors. There are some fantastic Ren'Py games out there! I was stating the pros and cons to Ren'Py, HTML, and QSP from a purely development standpoint (not content or player experience). They all have their own strengths and weaknesses. No lies were told. There are some extremely talented Ren'Py and HTML authors out there (far more talented than I am)! No question! There are plenty of awesome Ren'Py and HTML games out there! No question!

I explained, in detail, why the game was written in QSP and how it would be a terrible idea to try and port it to Ren'Py or HTML.

I don't want to be misquoted or misrepresented so I'm just letting you and everyone else know that you missed the point of my post.

 

[skybarbie]

Harsh. Mostly true, but harsh.

Renpy/Python definitely is the easier way to develop content that is the center of this forum's reason-to-exist. And yes, that's porn. Give me some cookies, for I'm Captain Obvious.

I understand your post may come from a position of frustration - you and the other Evil2 devs obviously (for folks like me who spend some thoughts about what happens 'under the hood' while playing) invested a great deal of time and effort in creating what we freeloaders play and critizise - but it feels to me that what you write here diminishes some of the great examples of storytelling renpy releases offer.

Yeah, some 90%+ of the stuff leaked (not RELEASED) here is pure wanking mat, and out of those 90%, most are not even the good stuff. Just some sloppy DAZ/HoneySelect renders, or hastily thrown together realporn assets. But there are projects that are great pieces of gameplay and storytelling, and even examples that push the limits of what the renpy platform offers.

I won't go into detail what those great examples are, quoting/listing them would be against forum rules. My point is, by diminishing works that use 'simpler' platforms that are used more widely compared to something more complex like QSP, you do yourself a disservice by coming over as bitter and aloof. But having played the game you contributed so much to, I do not think that that is your intention at all.

Anyway, to finish up this post: yes, and that's no, Evil2 can't/won't be ported to another platform. Nothing offers the pure RPG possibilities that are utilized running its content under QSP. At one time, goog old TADS might have been a platform if it would have developed in a reasonable direction, but at this time that's the same as lamenting OS/2 didn't beat Windows as the dominant operating system.

In any language it's difficult to convey tone and emotion with written words. Even more so if it's not your native language. I know noobtrain and he wasn't trashing Ren'Py games or Ren'Py authors in any way. Some of my favorite games on this site were written in Ren'Py.

He did talk about what players are looking for in a porn game and heavy RPG elements aren't at the top of the list. He is right that the majority of players just want to be entertained and so this makes Ren'Py visual novels hugely popular and huge money makers. Even average Ren'Py visual novels allow the authors to earn enough money on Patreon to make it a full-time job. $5,000 to $10,000 a month isn't that uncommon. Authors create what sells. They've learned that Ren'Py visual novels are what the majority of players are looking for so this is their bread and butter. If I were trying to make a living off of porn games I'd make Ren'Py visual novels also. It would be stupid not to.

So just a misunderstanding. I can see how some players could misinterpret what he wrote. He was brutally honest. I even chuckled a few times while reading it.

 

[Egor98765]

Основная причина, по которой вы не можете загружать вложения, заключается в том, что сайт, на котором они хранятся, заблокирован.

 

[skybarbie]

The main reason why you can't download attachments is because the site where they are stored is blocked.

This is easily solved by using a VPN if that is the reason for some players.

 

[skybarbie]

Update

I'm probably going to publish the full release of version 0.75 on either April 30th, or May 5th. The rest of this week and next week are quite busy for me so I don't know which date for sure yet (but it will be one of those two).

There will be some new files so players will have to download the full version (a QSP only update won't work).

The reason I've been taking so long to release the full 0.75 version is that I've spent considerable time trying to polish the game further and make it a better experience. No major changes here but plenty of small ones, most of which players won't necessarily notice.

I'm considering working on the game a bit after the full release of version 0.75 (don't know for sure yet). Regardless, if other developer want to take over they are more then welcome to! If you've been waiting to take over be my guest (please do so after this release). I'll just be in the background doing my own thing.

Me and noobtrain manage the project and we ask two things if you want to develop for the game:

1. Test your code! Make sure it doesn't break the game in some way. We've had players make changes and then the forum gets flooded with angry players because the game is broken or major bugs were added. Then we get blamed that the game is buggy or broken (or someone writes an angry review). I know this is foreign to a lot of new developers but you need to spend as much time testing your code as you do creating it!
2. Any changes or new content needs to compliment the existing game world. This has been a major problem in the past. If you want to make personal changes for yourself, you can change anything you'd like. But if you're sharing it with the community, it can't go against the game world that all the previous developers helped create. If you're unsure about a potential change, please ask myself or noobtrain.

 

[noobtrain]

skybarbie Hey, thank you and your team for the great work on Evil2.
I notice something. I dont know if its a bug or a feature.
Some of the females dont have portraits. Theyre enabled in my game.

Example are the Classmates.

Siloa Barbie works but Buttercup not. Same game, same save.

I use your Evil 2 - 0_75 Beta 2

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This was explained when the feature was introduced by skybarbie in the Evil 2 - 0.70 Beta release post. The first entry to the changelog explains how they work. There aren't any pictures of average or ugly women so they won't be assigned a portrait picture unless their beauty score is 70 or higher. If they're a new NPC, they won't be assigned a picture until the next day. Hope this helps...

 

[noobtrain]

Ah ok thank you very much. Then everything is fine from my side.

An easy way to assign a girl a portrait picture is by using the 'Pimp that Bitch' cheat in the cheat menu. The cheat will raise her beauty score to 70 or higher. You can also use the 'Female Body Preferences' feature to select what you view as being attractive (i.e. beautiful).

 

[ohhellyea]

is it me or are the console commands not working, like changing dick size, run number ect? yes, i'm doing 'command[npc]=

 

[noobtrain]

is it me or are the console commands not working, like changing dick size, run number ect? yes, i'm doing 'command[npc]=

If you want to change an NPC you use (with the NPC on the screen):

command[npc]=

If you want to change your variables or stats use:

command[you]=

There are minimums and maximums to some stats, especially dick size. Changing a male NPC's dick size doesn't gain you anything so I'd only focus on yours.

https://f95zone.to/threads/evil-2-v0-74-community-project.41582/post-16537210

https://f95zone.to/threads/evil-2-v0-74-community-project.41582/post-16257702

If the NPC is a unique event or story character, you're greatly limited in what stats you can edit with them. This is working as designed.

All the unique event and story NPCs are listed here.

 

[ohhellyea]

oh btw, idk if it is a bug or not, but when you click Big Ass, and the profile pic is dark/black hair, it freezes the game and causes a crash, the whole spinning cursor, screen goes white overlay ect ect

 

[noobtrain]

oh btw, idk if it is a bug or not, but when you click Big Ass, and the profile pic is dark/black hair, it freezes the game and causes a crash, the whole spinning cursor, screen goes white overlay ect ect

Can you post a save game from right before the crash (clicking on Big Ass)?

 

[ohhellyea]

also, i know i'm getting annoying what is the reputation to get high society to as for appoinment ect?

 

[ohhellyea]

Can you post a save game from right before the crash (clicking on Big Ass)?

 

[skybarbie]

also, i know i'm getting annoying what is the reputation to get high society to as for appoinment ect?

I believe it's 100.