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The best part about the game is the control MC has over everything that happens
Isn't that the final goal of most netorase games? You start by enjoying controlled sharing but after a certain point the girl becomes a hungry cockslut and you lose control over it.

So don't hang your hat on the control aspects of it.
 

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Isn't that the final goal of most netorase games? You start by enjoying controlled sharing but after a certain point the girl becomes a hungry cockslut and you lose control over it.

So don't hang your hat on the control aspects of it.
Read the dev notes, it's pretty well explicitly stated that won't be happening without the MC's go ahead. Now there are "points of no return" choices where you're basically giving up control for the remainder of the scene but even then it's voluntary on the part of the player and MC.

That's more the goal of corruption, which swinging and NTR are often packaged with. So far anyway it seems this is more a story about sexual liberation than one about sexual corruption.
 
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I would hate to see any blackmail or kidnapping added, the best part about the game is the control MC has over everything that happens
Isn't that the final goal of most netorase games? You start by enjoying controlled sharing but after a certain point the girl becomes a hungry cockslut and you lose control over it.
Or y'know, the preeminent couple can just play into that aspect but without actually falling into it. For instance, in the last iteration Nicole had some fun by "accidentally" sending a compromising photo to a certain someone at her workplace that's been hounding her for years. In such a situation, he could very easily turn around and attempt to blackmail her by releasing the photo. And once she informs Steve, her husband, of what's going down, the player can decide how things will actually go as it's the couple that actually has the power and not the blackmailer. They could get HR or the police involved and take things from there, or have Nicole play up the role of the "victim" and act accordingly while seeing how far that rabbit hole will go. But the choice and the ones who actually holds the winning hand is the husband and wife and not the blackmailer who will remain unaware of it all... Y'know, just a quick and easy example of how control remains firmly with the couple yet appearing to be losing it to a shady person. If nothing else, it's an interesting compromise that could satisfy both camps, right? ;]
 

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Read the dev notes, it's pretty well explicitly stated that won't be happening without the MC's go ahead.
I believe you are just mistaking MC with PLAYER, on the netorase route she is already taking actions by herself seen during her memories if you as the player choose it, the main character has no control over those scenes.
Or y'know, the preeminent couple can just play into that aspect but without actually falling into it.
Sure but the "exciting game" and the story so far clearly is leading that at some point mc is going to lose control(at least by the way I am playing the game).
Everything is leading to two endings, one in which she will get fully corrupted and one that she will stay honest.
But that's just the obvious two route one can predict, who knows what twists and turns the story could take.
 

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I believe you are just mistaking MC with PLAYER, on the netorase route she is already taking actions by herself seen during her memories if you as the played choose it, the main character has no control over those scenes.

Sure but the "exciting game" and the story so far clearly is leading that at some point mc is going to lose control(at least by the way I am playing the game).
Everything is leading to two endings, one in which she will get fully corrupted and one that she will stay honest.
But that's just the obvious two route one can predict, who knows what twists and turns the story could take.
No. Respectively, this is incorrect.

Firstly, the "MC" is not just Steve. Nicole is a controllable character too and the player often has to make choices for this MC as well. In effect, there are two MCs in this game, and the agency of control remain firmly with the player and both protagonists.

Secondly, the developer has explicitly and numerously repeated and reiterated the point that the MCs will NOT be losing control (or be corrupted, or cheat, or blackmailed, or whatever) in the way you're thinking. There are tons of games out there that follows that type of gameplay. This is not one of them.

Here's a few quotes I quickly threw together from the dev himself sourced from a few different places...
Guter Reiter said:
This game is not about cheating and beta MC. Nicole always told Steve everything. There was not a single instance where she kept something from him. They trust each other completely and share all their thoughts. Nicole will not have sex with other men if you do not want [it] to. The flashbacks just make it clear that she makes all the decisions herself. She is not given "tasks" by anyone. I'm tired of games with humiliation, lies, and cheating. I've always wondered: why can't you build a plot based on trust and good relationships? After all, the subject of hot wives, sharing and swingers is a very rich field of imagination. You can come up with a lot of situations based on that. If you're waiting for another game about cheating and humiliation, don't waste your time. There are plenty of those games out there.
 
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Please, please, please don't take this game down the same route that The Adventurous Couple went!
This is a great start for a VN in the hotwife/trophy wife genre.
The relationship between the MC and Nicole feels very strong and loving. They make dinner for each other, they compliment each other, they hold hands when they walk around, they tell each other that they love each other.
As a reader - you definitely get the vibe that this is a loving couple. In the few instances so far when the MC and Nicole are messing around with other men/women you still get the sense that they are more focused on each other and the other people joining in are secondary.

The Adventurous Couple started off as a really good hotwife/trophy wife VN, but now it it basically just 2 roommates that go around screwing everyone they see and you no longer get the sense that they are a loving couple. Please do not make that same mistake.

I realize there will likely be multiple routes, but hopefully the loving couple/strong relationship route will remain that - where the couple remain very much in love and any sharing/swinging will be secondary to spice up their sex life.

The only thing that kind of detracts from this VN is the English translations. There are a lot of sentences that aren't using proper English and don't really make sense. You can still figure out what is trying to be said. But this kind of pulls you out of the emersion of the story.
 

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Please, please, please don't take this game down the same route that The Adventurous Couple went!
Don't worry! The dev has addressed this specific concern several times and is fully on board with what you're thinking!
Here's a few selected quotes where he has responded to this concern before...
The Adventurous Couple I know this game. Moreover, it was the game that inspired me to make my own. I had a lot of fun with it. However, I didn't like everything about this project.
I want to tell a story about a loving couple exploring themselves and each other.
I have a completely different philosophy in my story.
So rest assured! The plan for Exciting Games is to definitely avoid the kinds of pitfalls that now plagues TAC. Frankly, I share in your opinion why this game is better (and I meant no offense whatsoever to those that are enjoying TAC). As commented before by Guter Reiter (from this post), "I'm tired of games with humiliation, lies, and cheating. I've always wondered: why can't you build a plot based on trust and good relationships? After all, the subject of hot wives, sharing and swingers is a very rich field of imagination. You can come up with a lot of situations based on that."
The only thing that kind of detracts from this VN is the English translations. There are a lot of sentences that aren't using proper English and don't really make sense. You can still figure out what is trying to be said. But this kind of pulls you out of the emersion [sic] of the story.
I can sympathize with your concerns. However, considering Guter isn't a native English speaker the text in EG is still very well written and understandable. For the kind of story we get in this game (which is surprisingly hard to find in adult gaming), we can easily overlook any issues that pops up here. Don't you agree?
Personally (and this is my opinion only), I'm just hung up on the renders of Sarah, Nicole's best friend. I'll just simply say that I wish they were better. ^^'

Hope this post puts you at ease -- that Exciting Games should not go down the same path as that other game! Cheers!
 

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This game caters to a genre of ntr that most of the players here would enjoy, and the dev is very hardworking, he worked on this slowly and getting loyal followers day by day, i've had enough of ntr where the girls would cheat, humiliate etc.
 

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Don't worry! The dev has addressed this specific concern several times and is fully on board with what you're thinking!
Here's a few selected quotes where he has responded to this concern before...



So rest assured! The plan for Exciting Games is to definitely avoid the kinds of pitfalls that now plagues TAC. Frankly, I share in your opinion why this game is better (and I meant no offense whatsoever to those that are enjoying TAC). As commented before by Guter Reiter (from this post), "I'm tired of games with humiliation, lies, and cheating. I've always wondered: why can't you build a plot based on trust and good relationships? After all, the subject of hot wives, sharing and swingers is a very rich field of imagination. You can come up with a lot of situations based on that."

I can sympathize with your concerns. However, considering Guter isn't a native English speaker the text in EG is still very well written and understandable. For the kind of story we get in this game (which is surprisingly hard to find in adult gaming), we can easily overlook any issues that pops up here. Don't you agree?
Personally (and this is my opinion only), I'm just hung up on the renders of Sarah, Nicole's best friend. I'll just simply say that I wish they were better. ^^'

Hope this post puts you at ease -- that Exciting Games should not go down the same path as that other game! Cheers!
I read backwards through the comments, but it seems I did not go back far enough. It is really awesome that this VN is inspired by TAC and that this Dev is taking the route on showing how this type of relationship can work and actually make a couple grow closer.
Knowing this I am now even more excited to follow the progression of Exciting Games.

Also I agree - the English translations are not bad. They are certainly a lot better than I could ever do if I were to try to translate something into another language.

I agree that Sarah could use a retouch. She has a trailer trash look to her.
 
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I have had a chance to read through more of the comments and I have to say I am very inspired by this Devs perspective.
There are quite a few VN's on F95 that start off as stories about sexual liberation and almost all of them veer off into a story about sexual corruption. I feel like that paints a poor picture of what swinging or sharing or having an open marriage could be like.
Every couple that decides to get into sharing/swinging don't end up with a broken marriage, where the husband or wife just run around screwing everything they can get their hands on. Some certainly end up that way. But probably far few don't end in disaster, than do.

Don't get me wrong - I definitely enjoy good corruption VN's, good harem VN's, etc, etc.
But it is refreshing to have different perspectives.
 

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I'm fine with swinging if it's a couple known but sharing, much less with a complete stranger, No. That's my issue with most of this kind of VNs, they go too far down the rabbit hole for my taste/comfort without giving the player a choice, just like the subway scene from this update. I'm not criticizing the scene or anyone that likes it, I just wanted the choice to stop. Not having that makes me think I won't stay much longer on this one, unfortunately, but we'll see.
Yea I have been watching this game for a while now and the one thing that had me to stay and enjoy this game a lot was the fact you could say yes or no whenever you wanted which you had control over how your story unfolds. Having a complete stranger come over and start finger banging your wife in the subway and you can't control it is not being an Alpha. I was really on board with this until now. I hope it goes back to its roots for the next update.
 
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Yea I have been watching this game for a while now and the one thing that had me to stay and enjoy this game a lot was the fact you could say yes or no whenever you wanted which you had control over how your story unfolds. Having a complete stranger come over and start finger banging your wife in the subway and you can't control it is not being an Alpha. I was really on board with this until now. I hope it goes back to its roots for the next update.
You're right that the player had less agency in that instance, but I wouldn't worry too much. The dev made mention of this and is considering changes to that specific situation. He wanted to push out an update with what he had first. Here's what was said about it:
The funny thing is that I laid the opportunity to stop a stranger, I even made renderings for this path, but I was in too much of a hurry to release the update and removed this opportunity as the least important in my opinion. Perhaps in future updates I will return it.
Though he did say "perhaps" he'll get to it in that post, I get the strong sense that he will adjust that scene due to how vocal many users here have been about it and the work he's already made for it prior to the update release. After all, as discussed recently he's doing his best to avoid the pitfalls found in other such games such as TAC where the players got railroaded into unwanted territory.

I know that this answer isn't a guarantee that there's going to be a change, but I hope it helps to put you a little more at ease. Let's hope for the best! Cheers!
 
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Yea I have been watching this game for a while now and the one thing that had me to stay and enjoy this game a lot was the fact you could say yes or no whenever you wanted which you had control over how your story unfolds. Having a complete stranger come over and start finger banging your wife in the subway and you can't control it is not being an Alpha. I was really on board with this until now. I hope it goes back to its roots for the next update.
it shows several time that Steve has control over the adventure , strangers offer to grab his dick and he need to choose wife touch him or not , he accept nicoles offer, he offers stranger to touch higher , he offers him not just watch and sit near them...

i don't understand having kinky adventurers with not strangers! you watched to many incest porn man! you wants to have kinky adventure with your family and friends?
in reality even in most open and free countries couples won't even say anything about this topic to people who knows them ...
 

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Being ok for having kinky adventures with strangers do not mean you want it with any or every stranger.

Keeping the control of who and what you allow is something important. The game is good with this except with the subway scene which could felt a bit uncomfortable for some cause it feel like not having full control anymore. The stranger imposed us HIS fun and his touch on Nicole. It's should be OUR fun to allow him (or not) to put his hand on her.

Maybe some players also doesn't want to share Nicole and just enjoy the exhibitionism and being watched.
 
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