xert13

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Okay, I'm sorry for getting heated, too. And honestly I hate the word cuck anyway, it's too broad and useless a word.
Agreed the word cuck is thrown around these forums to mean every MC who enjoys watching his LI with another dude. There is the textbook definition of cuckold which means a significant other who is being cheated on, but that is not what it means in layman’s parlance. Same way they mash up Netorare with cuck.
 

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Agreed the word cuck is thrown around these forums to mean every MC who enjoys watching his LI with another dude. There is the textbook definition of cuckold which means a significant other who is being cheated on, but that is not what it means in layman’s parlance. Same way they mash up Netorare with cuck.
That would be a dictionary definition to be more precise. Dictionaries are not very reliable with regards to the meanings of words. They are useful as a basic guide, but do not explore depth and subtleties of language and human behavior.

But, as Joshy92 suggested, we come here to wank, not to do academic debates on the phenomenology of cuckoldry and its related terms. :ROFLMAO: .

As long as the devs intentions, and genre of the game, are clear, hopefully with options to choose from, we should be satisfied :giggle:.

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BTW, here is an interesting painting :

"The Cuckold Carpenter Under the Bed of his Wife and her Lover" from an 18th-century edition of the Kalīla wa-Dimna

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That would be a dictionary definition to be more precise. Dictionaries are not very reliable with regards to the meanings of words. They are useful as a basic guide, but do not explore depth and subtleties of language and human behavior.

But, as Joshy92 suggested, we come here to wank, not to do academic debates on the phenomenology of cuckoldry and its related terms. :ROFLMAO: .

As long as the devs intentions, and genre of the game, are clear, hopefully with options to choose from, we should be satisfied :giggle:.

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BTW, here is an interesting painting :

"The Cuckold Carpenter Under the Bed of his Wife and her Lover" from an 18th-century edition of the Kalīla wa-Dimna

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god damm women were ugly in the 18th century
 
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BTW, here is an interesting painting :

"The Cuckold Carpenter Under the Bed of his Wife and her Lover" from an 18th-century edition of the Kalīla wa-Dimna

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Translation if anyone interested

And he said to her : "sister of soul (soulmate) sleep because you were staying up late and tired last night and i heard what you said in your love for me you are my eyes and soulmate"

this is a picture of a women with her lover on the bed and her unknowing husband sleeping under it

god damm women were ugly in the 18th century
like today not at all of them and make up/self care existed way before that
 
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They should come in dms automatically. He's not random about them - as they're always sent out in regular increments to the appropriate tiers. (that's not to say you're off base, I dunno, maybe he forgets sometimes and that'd be worth mentioning to him)
Well, they didn’t. I DMed dimajio 15hrs ago, has not responded still. Will give it some more time, but I have been subbed to dimajio for quite some time now, never once did I receive preview pics in my DMs automatically. Either he forgot to mention that they are for more premium Patron Tiers, or something not okay is going on here.
 

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Well, they didn’t. I DMed dimajio 15hrs ago, has not responded still. Will give it some more time, but I have been subbed to dimajio for quite some time now, never once did I receive preview pics in my DMs automatically. Either he forgot to mention that they are for more premium Patron Tiers, or something not okay is going on here.
are you on the all access tier ? Screenshot (47).png
 

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I'm sure there will be the option of not following the cuck path, but hopefully there would be the choice not to wear the cage even on that path (which may be what you meant).

Regardless, I can't think of anything much lamer than wearing a chastity cage, and it's another story aspect that's inconsistent with the FMC having no sexual experience besides with the MC initially and stating that she is the less adventurous one...yet all of a sudden she has all these adventurous ideas about sex and wants to dictate the terms of a cuck game involving this creepy guy when at first she had reservations about even sleeping in a bedroom adjacent to his...
Yeah I don't care for Martin either, when he stole her anal virginity without asking, that was the final straw
 
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yet all of a sudden she has all these adventurous ideas about sex and wants to dictate the terms of a cuck game involving this creepy guy when at first she had reservations about even sleeping in a bedroom adjacent to his...
One of Dimajio's strengths is that a couple's fantasy doesn't just grow in one person; they gradually grow their fantasies together through mutual feedback. He might advise her to wear something sexy, or react positively to her about another man's gaze on his wife. And don't forget the scene where Emma is deeply "absorbed" in porn. (This part is actually a crucial turning point in the overall story flow.) The claim that she suddenly became adventurous is wrong. If you carefully follow the story, she gradually became adventurous, and the result is a natural outcome. It's true that Martin is objectively creepy. It's also true that she initially found him creepy. Guess who changes her thought? MC changes her mind, which leads Emma to have a even stronger fantasy about Martin.

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There's a common and important point in Dimajio's cuckold works: 1. The couple is cuckold from the start, but they don't realize they are. 2. The game is a journey to discover their true selves. The important point is this: the FMC fantasizes about the MC fantasizing about her being with another man. Of course, this is only the case when following the pure cuckold path, excluding the cheating path. As one side's fantasy intensifies, the other side's fantasy also intensifies, and this interaction leads to the growth of their fantasies.
 
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It's highly likely that Emma's DP is a shared fantasy of the couple, and there's a good chance MC planted that in her mind. Why? Because it's very possible that the content is in the porn MC gave to her.

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This is a common storytelling pattern for Dimajio. When a couple shares their secret fantasies through conversation or interaction, it doesn't just end there. They confirm and reinforce those fantasies mutually through sex. This is what psychology calls positive reinforcement, where their fantasies are rewarded through sex, making those fantasies a reality.

For example, MC reacts positively to Emma when Martin looks at her. Then, they have sex. This reinforced experience subconsciously makes Emma horny and her fantasy stronger every time Martin looks at her. His stories follow this pattern.
 
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I'm not ready to fully respond yet in terms of providing more specifics to back my argument; however, I cannot help but comment in response to what you just said: Believe me, if I thought that positive reinforcement within the time frame portrayed was an adequate explanation for all of Emma's sudden changes, then I already would have thought about that long ago, as I am a PhD-level psychologist.
 

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I'm not ready to fully respond yet in terms of providing more specifics to back my argument; however, I cannot help but comment in response to what you just said: Believe me, if I thought that positive reinforcement within the time frame portrayed was an adequate explanation for all of Emma's sudden changes, then I already would have thought about that long ago, as I am a PhD-level psychologist.
That can't be an explanation because I never claimed Emma suddenly changed. Also, what I post here isn't just a conversation with you, it's a conversation with others, so it might not be related to our conversation. If I want to say something to you, I will quote your post.
 

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My apologies. I assumed it was a continuation of our conversation given that one post followed another. Regardless, I do not see positive reinforcement as being an adequate explanation for Emma's discrepant behaviors.
 

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My apologies. I assumed it was a continuation of our conversation given that one post followed another. Regardless, I do not see positive reinforcement as being an adequate explanation for Emma's discrepant behaviors.
There's no need to apologize. It was an understandable misunderstanding. This 'positive reinforcement thingy' isn't just in ETBA; it's a pattern found in his previous works too. That's why his games have a lot of sex scenes between mc and fmc in the early stages. He might not nail it perfectly every time, but through many samples, you can grasp his intention.
 

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Could you be more specific about what made you think that?
***Warning: This is a lengthy comment with potential spoilers. However, you did ask for specifics that back my view on Emma showing sudden changes that contrast with how she initially is portrayed. What I detail below is mostly from the sexual modesty/faithfulness path, and thus it is the mildest Emma path that can be chosen.

On Day 1, Emma speaks to her husband Patrick:
"You've always been the adventurer; I'm all about predictability. How did we end up together with such different vibes?"

The first sentence speaks to the personality traits of the husband and wife. Personality traits are enduring characteristics that are stable over long periods of time. This means that for years ("always"), the husband has been the more adventurous one (tending to engage in new and spontaneous experiences), whereas the wife generally likes engaging in planned and expected activities. The second sentence is a question that is asked to emphasize how different they always have been in this respect. Again, this speaks to a longstanding pattern of behavior, and personality traits such as this tend to remain stable and (if they change) change gradually over time. Also, Emma later reveals (through her thoughts) that her only sexual experience is with her husband, which means that she was conservative with sex prior to marriage and has not cheated on husband Patrick.

Soon after meeting Martin and being told that the bedroom is a walkthrough room, Emma replies:
"I appreciate the offer and all, but I can't do this." Emma finds the idea of sleeping with her husband in a walkthrough bedroom so uncomfortable that her immediate reaction is to decline the arrangement.

After Martin leaves the room, Emma tells her husband in private: "Maybe we shouldn't have come here at all..." Emma again expresses misgivings about the sleeping in a walkthrough bedroom adjacent to Martin's bedroom.

After Patrick consoles Emma and says that her university dream is important, she replies:: "If I'd known we'd end up in a walkthrough room where the landlord could pop in anytime, I never would've agreed to this." For a third time, Emma makes it plain that she feels uncomfortable being in bed with her husband with another man in a nearby room who might see them in bed.

Soon after that, Emma tells Patrick: "I never used to get into these adventures. Only with you do I find myself constantly stepping outside of my comfort zone." Emma reinforces her earlier thoughts on her husband being the adventurous one.

Continuing the initial conversation in the bedroom, Emma states: "I never thought I'd be in a situation where I have to ask someone to hold the door while I change clothes. I don't know how we're going to sleep, knowing there's a landlord walking around." For the fourth time, Emma expresses feeling uncomfortable about the living arrangement, particularly expressing dislike of the possibility that Martin could see her naked body.

Continuing: "In such a tense situation, I even feel awkward changing in front of you." Emma expresses that even in her husband's presence the mere thought of possibly being seen naked by Martin makes her feel uncomfortable.

Continuing: "If Martin walked in while I'm half-dressed like this, I'd die of embarrassment and bolt out of here."

Later that night on the first day, Emma denies Patrick any kind of fooling around in bed because she's too uncomfortable about the possibility of Martin walking in while they're doing that.

On Day 2, Emma again denies Patrick any kind of fooling around in bed. From Emma's perspective, she misses having sexual intimacy with her husband, but she feels uncomfortable in thinking that Martin might hear them having sex; and she also notes that it made her feel uncomfortable when Martin saw her in bed in the morning.

On Day 3, Patrick tells Emma after they engage in sexual activity in the apartment for the first time (due to Martin not being there):
"What's gotten into you tonight, babe? I haven't seen you this excited for a while." In response, Emma essentially says it's nothing unusual and that she just really missed her husband.

However, from Emma's perspective, the following happened to her while her husband was at work: She tripped and fell and in doing so got a full view of Martin's dick. Emma repeatedly noted that Martin was staring at her throughout the day and expressed being excited by it. After her husband told her that maybe she should try to be more modest and not call as much attention to herself, she expresses being slightly disappointed because she would like to be a little naughty around Martin. From Emma's perspective, she further expresses being surprised by how much she enjoys being in the spotlight and thinks that maybe it's because Martin is the one who is taking the photos. She then later admits that part of her motivation for wanting to have sex with her husband so badly is how turned on she feels from the photo shoot with Martin earlier that day (which means she lied to her husband about being excited only because she missed him so much). After having sex with her husband, Emma lies in bed awake that night, thinking that she is still so turned on from the photoshoot with Martin that she could have another round of sex.

On Day 4, Patrick wakes up from having a nightmare about witnessing Emma kiss Martin while on top of him, and after noticing that Emma is not in bed with him, he finds her outside of Martin's room trying to sneak a peek as Martin views/listens to porn on his laptop. Then it is revealed that from Emma's perspective earlier in the day, she is starting to enjoy Martin's attention so much that she forgets her husband will soon return home from work.

On Day 5, Patrick again awakens and notices that Emma is not in bed with him. This time he witnesses Emma peering into Martin's room as Martin watches porn on his laptop. After Patrick expresses surprise that Emma did not turn around and head back to their room, he notices that she is completely captivated, with her legs shaking in excitement.
If her husband interrupts her, then Emma says she was just curious after getting out of the shower and wanted to see what was going on inside of Martin's room, where as expected he again was watching porn and leaves it at that. If her husband continues to watch out of curiosity about what she will do, then Emma begins to breath more heavily, puts her hand to her forehead, and then turns around with excitement/emotion on her face. From Emma's perspective, she got out of bed that night because she heard the sounds of Martin watching porn coming from his room again and could not help but take a look at what he was doing (which means she lied to her husband about being out of bed because she took a shower). In the scenario where her husband interrupts her, Emma still stares at Martin as he masturbates to porn. In the scenario where her husband does not interrupt her, Emma further witnesses Martin call out her name twice while he says that he wants her so bad and that she makes him so horny. Emma reveals none of this to her husband prior to him leaving town the next day.

Then while Patrick is out of town (regardless of path), things become increasingly provocative between her and Martin. Of note, Emma immediately agrees to do a beach photoshoot with Martin in a rather skimpy bikini, even if her husband previously said he did not feel comfortable with her modeling in skimpy attire. After their photoshoot on the beach, Emma then immediately agrees to get in the water with Martin after he removes all of his clothing. Then when she gets a leg cramp, she feels Martin pressing his dick against her ass. When she speaks to her husband later, she omits that they had this particular interaction (the third time she conceals information from her husband). Emma also agrees to posing as a couple with Martin in visiting his brother's home, and she further agrees to get in a hot tub with everyone completely naked.


As you can see, even on the sexual modesty/faithfulness path, Emma acts in a number of ways that are quite discrepant from how she initially was presented.
 
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