VN Ren'Py Completed Exploring the Big Apple [Ep.7 Fixed] [Dimajio333]

[Filipis]

General Question to all: seeing the critical reactions, do you think a more clearly defined, more specific "branding"/brand identity would help developers or should they try to appear as wide and open in their profile as possible? What is more important, avoiding possible disappointment or generating interest of all kinds of viewers? Or would this be a further step in de-individualization and commercialization of game production? Or the opposite?

Dimajio does NTR/NTS. That's it. That's how he defined his reputation (at least on this site), and that's how we all know him.

And we know what to expect, which is both good - and bad in some ways.

It's good that his projects are short enough, to where you know he's going to finish a game, and the fans won't have to wait years for it.

The bad part is, NTR really thrives on suspense, mystery, and that ever-divisive slow-burn to really hammer it home. The length of his projects also means he has to come up with a new setup often, while never fully exploring each in its entirety. Eventually, his games will become even more repetitive than they are now, as there simply won't be any more innovation in terms of initial premise - and the only thing he will be able to do, is "innovate" in terms of character design.

But, first, he has to work on his finales; his endings leave a lot to be desired.

 

[rocco11]

I need help.

While playing the game, this message suddenly appeared, as shown in the screenshot. I deleted the game, downloaded it again, and launched it, but the problem still persists.

How can I fix this?

 

[Dealbreaker]

as there simply won't be any more innovation in terms of initial premise - and the only thing he will be able to do, is "innovate" in terms of character design.

Interesting thesis. I'm not so sure about it.

 

[Dessolos]

Well I played most of the sharing path gonna play it more tomorrow. Man I actually hated the anniversary , to me this is the one time I do not want my MC to share his women if im being honest. I did like Matthew as he is a much better option than Martin. But I can't help feel the anniversary part and what he originally had planned for Matthew was rushed because he ended the game early.

Well depending how the other paths pan out will decide if I keep this installed on my PC or not like I still have PE installed. So far im leaning towards delete once im done. Tho my disappointment is not unexpected as I felt 2 of his other games that I have tried ended too soon right when it was getting good.

 

[Filipis]

Interesting thesis. I'm not so sure about it.

I mean, there are only so many major variations on a subject.

To start with, there must be a reason why the NTR/S antagonist enters the life of MMC & FMC.

• My "thesis" is, there are only so many variations on how this happens:
  • Sharing My Fiancee: the bull is merely an acquaintance (the boyfriend of a friend, IIRC), and the couple/wife reach out to him - out of pure fantasy.
  • Make Me Happy: the bull is a family friend (the friend of MMC), and the couple/husband, once again, reach out to him - out of "necessity".
  • Lost Paradise: the bull is a stranger, and he reaches out to the couple/husband - out of "necessity".
  • Pineapple Express: the bull is a family friend, and he reaches out to the couple/husband - out of "necessity".
  • Exploring the Big Apple: the bull is a family friend, and the couple/husband, once again, reach out to him - out of "necessity".

After this, you have the second major factor, the characteristics of the characters (submissive/passive husband, inexperienced/lusty wife, malicious/unassuming bull, etc...).

Not saying there isn't any innovation left, but I believe there is only a certain number of permutations left before we start seeing eerie similarities between his projects.

My Husband's Boss is one example of the husband & bull character done right, and I hope dimajio takes a note or two from there.

 

[tootsy69]

Hello all, i have this bug/error, is there a fix ?

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Played a bit of this a while ago.... But what are the actual routes I'm assuming it's loyal,cheating, "sharing" but mmf and with that do you automatically become a cuck and she sleeps around and cheats out side of the threesomes and the husband or boyfriend gets no extra female action

 

[TonyMurray]

Played a bit of this a while ago.... But what are the actual routes I'm assuming it's loyal,cheating, "sharing" but mmf and with that do you automatically become a cuck and she sleeps around and cheats out side of the threesomes and the husband or boyfriend gets no extra female action

Yeah, mostly. Loyal, cheating, sharing (MMF), and cuck. On the sharing route, there's no "cuck" element, it's legit sharing. She sometimes starts early and then you join in, but there's none of her going off and "cheating" on this route. It's just one other guy for most of the game, and then one other guy later in the game, and both are the same guys for the other relevant routes too. There are no other women involved in relationships/sex (there's barely any other women in the game at all).

 

[russelld]

It's a shame the dev didn't allow us to see Emma's POV at the end of the cheating path. He could've showed us who texted her when she was talking to Patrick after he got the call from work. He could've showed us what happened when she went to Matthew's house before Patrick showed up and saw them almost naked together. He could've showed us her perspective when Patrick walked in on her and Martin or at least they should have had a conversation.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Yeah, mostly. Loyal, cheating, sharing (MMF), and cuck. On the sharing route, there's no "cuck" element, it's legit sharing. She sometimes starts early and then you join in, but there's none of her going off and "cheating" on this route. It's just one other guy for most of the game, and then one other guy later in the game, and both are the same guys for the other relevant routes too. There are no other women involved in relationships/sex (there's barely any other women in the game at all).

Is it a true/pure loyal path or what ever it's called and I'm assuming the the cheating path either stems from giving her no attention or you roleplay a bit of the fantasy of sharing or another man's attention and if you back track and change your mind it follows the standard trope of well the partner started this ball rolling it doesn't matter if he's changed his mind this train has left the station haha

Also the sharing route of mmf so just threesomes is it explicitly set as only threesomes or is she allowed to mess around with the other male in the threesome on her own

 

[Lovely Dani]

Finished now. Masterpiece! For lovers of the genre this is an unmissable game !!
There is art, writing, psychology, it also seems written by a woman, seen how the part of his wife is written. BRAVO !!

 

[Puma1978]

This is what dev is planing next:

• In the next few days, I’ll be posting a separate teaser for the upcoming game. It's already around 60% complete. Like I mentioned before, it’s going to be an experimental game — something fresh, something different from my previous titles. More like a creative vacation before diving back into my usual big, serious projects.
  The style will be anime-inspired, but no AI art at all — everything’s hand-made like before, using daz models. The theme remains the same, but I’m skipping the multi-branch madness and focusing on what I personally enjoy the most — NTR/NTS. Let’s see how it turns out
  Thanks for your support, stay healthy and happy

 

[Filipis]

Well I played most of the sharing path gonna play it more tomorrow. Man I actually hated the anniversary , to me this is the one time I do not want my MC to share his women if im being honest. I did like Matthew as he is a much better option than Martin. But I can't help feel the anniversary part and what he originally had planned for Matthew was rushed because he ended the game early.

Well depending how the other paths pan out will decide if I keep this installed on my PC or not like I still have PE installed. So far im leaning towards delete once im done. Tho my disappointment is not unexpected as I felt 2 of his other games that I have tried ended too soon right when it was getting good.

Same here. Pineapple Express is the only game from this dev that I kept, and it looks like it will stay that way still.

This is what dev is planing next:

• In the next few days, I’ll be posting a separate teaser for the upcoming game. It's already around 60% complete. Like I mentioned before, it’s going to be an experimental game — something fresh, something different from my previous titles. More like a creative vacation before diving back into my usual big, serious projects.
  The style will be anime-inspired, but no AI art at all — everything’s hand-made like before, using daz models. The theme remains the same, but I’m skipping the multi-branch madness and focusing on what I personally enjoy the most — NTR/NTS. Let’s see how it turns out
  Thanks for your support, stay healthy and happy

I still can't wrap my head around how the anime + Daz models combination is going to look like, but it sounds intriguing enough.

 

[TonyMurray]

It's a shame the dev didn't allow us to see Emma's POV at the end of the cheating path. He could've showed us who texted her when she was talking to Patrick after he got the call from work. He could've showed us what happened when she went to Matthew's house before Patrick showed up and saw them almost naked together. He could've showed us her perspective when Patrick walked in on her and Martin or at least they should have had a conversation.

You do get to see it... sort of. There's a coding issue that blocks it. If you check over the last couple of pages, it's covered and there's a couple of fixes depending on if you use URM, console, or just drop an updated script file in the folder. All of those parts you mention are in the game once fixed.

Is it a true/pure loyal path or what ever it's called and I'm assuming the the cheating path either stems from giving her no attention or you roleplay a bit of the fantasy of sharing or another man's attention and if you back track and change your mind it follows the standard trope of well the partner started this ball rolling it doesn't matter if he's changed his mind this train has left the station haha

Also the sharing route of mmf so just threesomes is it explicitly set as only threesomes or is she allowed to mess around with the other male in the threesome on her own

Yes, a true loyal path, and the cheating path (if I remember correctly) is born from some teasing and then drawing back. The sharing route is just threesomes, but sometimes she starts before the husband gets there, and in the epilogue she messages him a couple of photos that show she's doing stuff at home while he's at work and she is "waiting for him to come and join in". I can't remember there being a proper occasion where she fools around with the other guy without the husband present, but I might be forgetting some examples from earlier updates.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Yes, a true loyal path, and the cheating path (if I remember correctly) is born from some teasing and then drawing back. The sharing route is just threesomes, but sometimes she starts before the husband gets there, and in the epilogue she messages him a couple of photos that show she's doing stuff at home while he's at work and she is "waiting for him to come and join in". I can't remember there being a proper occasion where she fools around with the other guy without the husband present, but I might be forgetting some examples from earlier updates.

The sharing route I do have a question and I know I'm splitting hairs here and will likely depend on the person in that scenario

So with it just being just threesomes , but if she's starting early doesn't that then become some what borderline cheating ( again why I said depends on the actual males view )

Then by texting him with photos of her doing stuff and that they are waiting doesn't that become somewhat cuck like ( again depends on the male)

Now I'm not bashing the path or anything and depends on the context around starting the sharing

But I know I'm clutching at straws hence why I've floated the idea rather than being out and out it is

Like for example if it was me in that situation I would only expect it to be threesomes no solo fun that builds into a threesome after I get home from work again this is where it boils down to what the exact context of the sharing is , now back to my example personally I don't know if I would feel cheated as I've never been in the situation so it would be one of them I wouldn't know how I'd actually feel till it happens , but on the other side I would imagine I wouldn't be particularly impressed that stuff was happening without me there as then it's not really sharing at that stage haha

Honestly this a stemmed from a random thought and thought fuck it let's see what tony thinks haha

 

[TonyMurray]

The sharing route I do have a question and I know I'm splitting hairs here and will likely depend on the person in that scenario

So with it just being just threesomes , but if she's starting early doesn't that then become some what borderline cheating ( again why I said depends on the actual males view )

Then by texting him with photos of her doing stuff and that they are waiting doesn't that become somewhat cuck like ( again depends on the male)

Now I'm not bashing the path or anything and depends on the context around starting the sharing

But I know I'm clutching at straws hence why I've floated the idea rather than being out and out it is

Like for example if it was me in that situation I would only expect it to be threesomes no solo fun that builds into a threesome after I get home from work again this is where it boils down to what the exact context of the sharing is , now back to my example personally I don't know if I would feel cheated as I've never been in the situation so it would be one of them I wouldn't know how I'd actually feel till it happens , but on the other side I would imagine I wouldn't be particularly impressed that stuff was happening without me there as then it's not really sharing at that stage haha

Honestly this a stemmed from a random thought and thought fuck it let's see what tony thinks haha

Well, not cheating, since it's all known about and consensual, and for the photos, I was second-guessing myself so I went to check and it's actually only on the cuck route that happens, not the sharing route...

The "starting without him" is mostly when he's not far away (so once, she is behind a photo screen with the other guy, and the husband is on the other side, then comes to join once they get started; once they are moving house and the husband goes out to the car for another box and they start up in the couple of minutes he's gone; the one with the biggest gap is when they go to the other guy's house for dinner, separately, and she gets there first and they start up before the husband arrives). There may be a couple of other examples that someone with a fresher memory can fill in.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Well, not cheating, since it's all known about and consensual, and for the photos, I was second-guessing myself so I went to check and it's actually only on the cuck route that happens, not the sharing route...

The "starting without him" is mostly when he's not far away (so once, she is behind a photo screen with the other guy, and the husband is on the other side, then comes to join once they get started; once they are moving house and the husband goes out to the car for another box and they start up in the couple of minutes he's gone; the one with the biggest gap is when they go to the other guy's house for dinner, separately, and she gets there first and they start up before the husband arrives). There may be a couple of other examples that someone with a fresher memory can fill in.

Interesting, I agree I wouldn't out and out say it's cheating but if they start up with a big enough gap before the husband joins it blurs that sharing line so to speak unless it's like a trouple sort of situation that is but again all down to context really isn't it

 

[Dessolos]

Interesting, I agree I wouldn't out and out say it's cheating but if they start up with a big enough gap before the husband joins it blurs that sharing line so to speak unless it's like a trouple sort of situation that is but again all down to context really isn't it

At least to me I think it depends on the context. Like the dinner with the professor does almost feel borderline cheating to me even tho I expected it would lead to what it did. The problem I had what if he didn't make it in time , then the MC would miss out on some fun on his Anniversary. To me it felt like she doesn't respect their relationship if she can't wait for him to get there especially on their Anniversary.

tbh the whole date made me not like Emma at all. I get this is a porn game and about NTR / NTS but the fact she made plans with another guy on their Anniversary without asking made it extremely shitty to me. To me that would be the one day I would not want to share her at all. Honestly this is probably one of my most disliked updates I've played out of any NTR / NTS games I still need to play the cuck and cheating path but don't see it being any better.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

At least to me I think it depends on the context. Like the dinner with the professor does almost feel borderline cheating to me even tho I expected it would lead to what it did. The problem I had what if he didn't make it in time , then the MC would miss out on some fun on his Anniversary. To me it felt like she doesn't respect their relationship if she can't wait for him to get there especially on their Anniversary.

tbh the whole date made me not like Emma at all. I get this is a porn game and about NTR / NTS but the fact she made plans with another guy on their Anniversary without asking made it extremely shitty to me. To me that would be the one day I would not want to share her at all. Honestly this is probably one of my most disliked updates I've played out of any NTR / NTS games I still need to play the cuck and cheating path but don't see it being any better.

I haven't got this far into it and don't worry about spoilers or anything it doesn't bother me , but based on what you've said I agree 100% like for me personally if I was in a sharing / open relationship our anniversary would be absolutely off limits and the relationship would be very much closed on that day , the thing is by doing that on there anniversary it's not the biggest thing she could of done but I would say it's certainly the most disrespectful thing someone could do

Prime example if you forgot your anniversary your wife would likely be like in her head he doesn't love me anymore , Emma don't mind me baby Im just going on a dinner date with someone that isn't you on our anniversary hahaha alright cheers then il just go fuck myself then shall I haha

Let me guess this dinner happens on the anniversary regardless of what route your on

 

[Dessolos]

Let me guess this dinner happens on the anniversary regardless of what route your on

i'm assuming so I have only played 1 path so far. Since the MC gets called into work on his anniversary and he doesn't even put up a fight with his boss to go into another day even if it's supposedly urgent and needs to be done that day or whatever. He just ask one time and rolls over and accepts it.