VN Ren'Py Completed Exploring the Big Apple [Ep.7 Fixed] [Dimajio333]

[TonyMurray]

What scene would that be? AFAIK if she's cheating only with Martin, there are only 2 scenes in episode 7: the BTS photoshoot, and the last scene where Patrick discovers them.

What else is there?

When Patrick gets called into work on their anniversary, before going to Matthew's, Emma gets the text message from (in this instance) Martin. There's a code check, which I think might be "Martin cheat=yes, but Matthew cheat=no", and instead of Emma replying that they should get together sometime, she says she is home alone and invites him over. Even if she is cheating with both Martin and Matthew though, I have no idea why this scene couldn't still happen. I think it should be the default on the cheating path, so long as she is with Martin. I guess maybe it's a case of timing - but it could absolutely be worked that she fools around with Martin, then if she is Martin only, she continues and is late to Matthews, whereas if she is Matthew as well, she stops and goes to his, then fools around with him as well before Patrick arrives...

A couple of the screenshots of this third scene (second, chronologically) have been posted in the thread - Martin lifting Emma in his arms and Martin sucking/licking Emma's nipple while she looks like she is sitting in his lap.

I could be (probably am) wrong with how I'm reading the code check, since it's just numbers and I'm not going to try tracking what every choice and variable means based on when it was flagged to "true"!

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Well, I didn't say it was my favourite story from start to finish, just that the ending was the best one (given the situation) out of all of dimajio's projects.

Best story overall, for me, is the Pineapple Express one, as ironic as that may be.

No that's completely fair and I respect that also hope it didn't come across as hating NTR as it doesn't bother me it's the small things that they do in it that annoys me mostly

It's been a while since I've played pineapple express from what I remember it wasn't bad , it's just solely mmf? I can't remember the routes or is it just a general sharing situation

 

[Filipis]

When Patrick gets called into work on their anniversary, before going to Matthew's, Emma gets the text message from (in this instance) Martin. There's a code check, which I think might be "Martin cheat=yes, but Matthew cheat=no", and instead of Emma replying that they should get together sometime, she says she is home alone and invites him over. Even if she is cheating with both Martin and Matthew though, I have no idea why this scene couldn't still happen. I think it should be the default on the cheating path, so long as she is with Martin. I guess maybe it's a case of timing - but it could absolutely be worked that she fools around with Martin, then if she is Martin only, she continues and is late to Matthews, whereas if she is Matthew as well, she stops and goes to his, then fools around with him as well before Patrick arrives...

A couple of the screenshots of this third scene (second, chronologically) have been posted in the thread - Martin lifting Emma in his arms and Martin sucking/licking Emma's nipple while she looks like she is sitting in his lap.

I could be (probably am) wrong with how I'm reading the code check, since it's just numbers and I'm not going to try tracking what every choice and variable means based on when it was flagged to "true"!

So, nothing official in the episode 7 files, just something that was implied from the script?

 

[Filipis]

No that's completely fair and I respect that also hope it didn't come across as hating NTR as it doesn't bother me it's the small things that they do in it that annoys me mostly

It's been a while since I've played pineapple express from what I remember it wasn't bad , it's just solely mmf? I can't remember the routes or is it just a general sharing situation

PE featured faithful, cheating, and sharing (but no MMF), IIRC.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

PE featured faithful, cheating, and sharing (but no MMF), IIRC.

So the sharing is that just solely the female or does the husband get action too il need to re play it at some stage

 

[TonyMurray]

So, nothing official in the episode 7 files, just something that was implied from the script?

Not quite sure what you mean by this. There are official Ep7 files for it - there are the images that make up the scene, and the lines of text in the script for the dialogue in it. The bit I'm not certain on with the script, is the exact criteria to get the scene (I'm sure I got it with a single variable change in URM when the path check came up, but I'm not sure how to get it organically, as I've not played through for different sub-paths like this).

 

[Geko1711]

When Patrick gets called into work on their anniversary, before going to Matthew's, Emma gets the text message from (in this instance) Martin. There's a code check, which I think might be "Martin cheat=yes, but Matthew cheat=no", and instead of Emma replying that they should get together sometime, she says she is home alone and invites him over. Even if she is cheating with both Martin and Matthew though, I have no idea why this scene couldn't still happen. I think it should be the default on the cheating path, so long as she is with Martin. I guess maybe it's a case of timing - but it could absolutely be worked that she fools around with Martin, then if she is Martin only, she continues and is late to Matthews, whereas if she is Matthew as well, she stops and goes to his, then fools around with him as well before Patrick arrives...

A couple of the screenshots of this third scene (second, chronologically) have been posted in the thread - Martin lifting Emma in his arms and Martin sucking/licking Emma's nipple while she looks like she is sitting in his lap.

I could be (probably am) wrong with how I'm reading the code check, since it's just numbers and I'm not going to try tracking what every choice and variable means based on when it was flagged to "true"!

Of those two images I posted of one I am sure it is the epilogue of cheating with Martin, the other I am not sure because I have not seen it but I infer that it too is an epilogue, but certainly both images are not part of the endings i.e. when Patrick is called by his boss to work on the anniversary day. In fact the first one i.e. with Martin they are surprised later in time as a date than their anniversary.

 

[Filipis]

Not quite sure what you mean by this. There are official Ep7 files for it - there are the images that make up the scene, and the lines of text in the script for the dialogue in it. The bit I'm not certain on with the script, is the exact criteria to get the scene (I'm sure I got it with a single variable change in URM when the path check came up, but I'm not sure how to get it organically, as I've not played through for different sub-paths like this).

I mean, is this scene (where Emma invites Martin over to the apartment when Patrick leaves for work) rendered or not?

AFAIK, I didn't see any such images in the game files that depict Emma & Martin in her apartment. The only Martin x Emma scenes in ep.7 are the photoshoot, and the "epilogue" cheating scene in Martin's apartment.

 

[TonyMurray]

Of those two images I posted of one I am sure it is the epilogue of cheating with Martin, the other I am not sure because I have not seen it but I infer that it too is an epilogue, but certainly both images are not part of the endings i.e. when Patrick is called by his boss to work on the anniversary day. In fact the first one i.e. with Martin they are surprised later in time as a date than their anniversary.

These all come in before the epilogue, it's part of the anniversary before dinner with Matthew:

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In the second image, the code looks for "not option52", if it's "true" you get Emma messaging Martin back to say they should meet up sometime, if it's "false" (not sure on the requirements to get that, as I don't know what option52 flags), she messages back to say she's alone, come on over. However, once you get the Martin scene here, it then goes directly to the epilogue, rather than to Matthew's for dinner (and potential extras), so I think there could be some funky coding there too.

Filipis, I caught your message just before hitting reply. The answer is yes, and I have put a selection of the screenshots in the spoiler above.

 

[Filipis]

These all come in before the epilogue, it's part of the anniversary before dinner with Matthew:

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In the second image, the code looks for "not option52", if it's "true" you get Emma messaging Martin back to say they should meet up sometime, if it's "false" (not sure on the requirements to get that, as I don't know what option52 flags), she messages back to say she's alone, come on over. However, once you get the Martin scene here, it then goes directly to the epilogue, rather than to Matthew's for dinner (and potential extras), so I think there could be some funky coding there too.

Filipis, I caught your message just before hitting reply. The answer is yes, and I have put a selection of the screenshots in the spoiler above.

I see. I must've been blind not to see those scenes while I was scouring the game files. Were these found in the "images" folder or somewhere else?

Seeing all of the jumbled code, errors, and missed calls for ep.7 makes me furious - ep.7 had more meat to offer than we got, but a decent part of it is never shown to the player because of the mistakes...

Dimajio really needs a better process for marking his routes and options. Errors like these aren't simply from rushing the code, it's because it's almost impossible for a human person to remember what "optionXY" is supposed to represent, for fuck sake.

 

[only MILF]

Who played, tell me... HOW MANY ENDINGS ARE THERE IN THE GAME???

 

[TonyMurray]

I see. I must've been blind not to see those scenes while I was scouring the game files. Were these found in the "images" folder or somewhere else?

Seeing all of the jumbled code, errors, and missed calls for ep.7 makes me furious - ep.7 had more meat to offer than we got, but a decent part of it is never shown to the player because of the mistakes...

Dimajio really needs a better process for marking his routes and options. Errors like these aren't simply from rushing the code, it's because it's almost impossible for a human person to remember what "optionXY" is supposed to represent, for fuck sake.

I hadn't looked in the image files, I just saw them come up in the game (but only after I tweaked that option in URM). They are there though, I just found them, filenames are "bg 7 (234)" onwards.

Who played, tell me... HOW MANY ENDINGS ARE THERE IN THE GAME???

I dunno for sure anymore, I think maybe six in terms of the epilogue? Vanilla/loyal, caught cheating with Martin, caught cheating with Matthew, cuck sent pics of Emma with Martin, cuck sent pics of Emma with Matthew, sharing with Martin (I didn't see anything for sharing with Matthew in the epilogue).

 

[Geko1711]

I mean, is this scene (where Emma invites Martin over to the apartment when Patrick leaves for work) rendered or not?

AFAIK, I didn't see any such images in the game files that depict Emma & Martin in her apartment. The only Martin x Emma scenes in ep.7 are the photoshoot, and the "epilogue" cheating scene in Martin's apartment.

Yes the images I confirm are rendered, they are part of the epilogues, as for Martin it is called 'bg 7 (381).webp' and Matthew the 'bg 7 (389).webp' and they are located in the images folder of the game.

 

[TonyMurray]

Yes the images I confirm are rendered, they are part of the epilogues, as for Martin it is called 'bg 7 (381).webp' and Matthew the 'bg 7 (389).webp' and they are located in the images folder of the game.

These are different scenes, he asked about the scene before the epilogue, where Martin visits for sex with Emma while Patrick is called to work on their anniversary.

 

[Filipis]

I hadn't looked in the image files, I just saw them come up in the game (but only after I tweaked that option in URM). They are there though, I just found them, filenames are "bg 7 (234)" onwards.

I doubt dimajio will go back and fix up the ep.7, so will there be a hero?

I considered it briefly, but don't see the point as the end result would still be a middling experience, just slightly more coherent.

 

[Sparta158]

These are different scenes, he asked about the scene before the epilogue, where Martin visits for sex with Emma while Patrick is called to work on their anniversary.

I've actually played all the paths, but I didn't have that scene with Martin either. pity

 

[Sparta158]

Well, I'm a big fan of NTR endings in his games, and out of those, the #1 for me is Make Me Happy, with Pineapple Express sharing second place with Sharing My Fiancee.

One major aspect of endings in NTR paths I expect and enjoy are witnessing the consequences of cheating/NTR (though, preferably positive for the cheating FMC), and dimajio's endings don't tend to do that very often or in a satisfying manner, ironically enough.

Make Me Happy is the only one that shows the player (MC) what happens to the FMC some time after she leaves him for her lover, and that's great - really hammers home the fact that the FMC is now happier with that guy than she was with MC. Call me weird, but if you keep making choices that "let" your wife cheat, you deserve to lose (and not get any revenge) for your incompetence. Sorta like the saying "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

Sharing My Fiancee also has that type of an ending, though for some reason, we never get a proper epilogue of what happens to her when she leaves us.

Pineapple Express shows us a pregnant Julia, but then skips the pregnancy part and shows her enjoying regular gangbangs... which ruined that particular ending for me, if I'm being honest.

I realize as I'm writing this, but none of dimajio's endings get a grade higher than 7/10 from me, so I guess I am saying he hasn't really made the perfect (NTR) epilogue for a game yet, IMHO.

Thank you for your answer. I see it exactly.

 

[TonyMurray]

I've actually played all the paths, but I didn't have that scene with Martin either. pity

I think it's a bit messed up, because as well as being difficult or perhaps impossible to "organically" see, it also then sends you to the epilogue instead of to the scenes at Matthew's place for dinner.

I doubt dimajio will go back and fix up the ep.7, so will there be a hero?

I considered it briefly, but don't see the point as the end result would still be a middling experience, just slightly more coherent.

I don't have the time, inclination, or coding knowledge to make more than minimal changes!

 

[only MILF]

I hadn't looked in the image files, I just saw them come up in the game (but only after I tweaked that option in URM). They are there though, I just found them, filenames are "bg 7 (234)" onwards.

I dunno for sure anymore, I think maybe six in terms of the epilogue? Vanilla/loyal, caught cheating with Martin, caught cheating with Matthew, cuck sent pics of Emma with Martin, cuck sent pics of Emma with Matthew, sharing with Martin (I didn't see anything for sharing with Matthew in the epilogue).

THANKS FOR THE ANSWER. I am also confused.

 

[Geko1711]

These are different scenes, he asked about the scene before the epilogue, where Martin visits for sex with Emma while Patrick is called to work on their anniversary.

The pictures I refer to and posted are of the 2 different epilogues (Martin and Matthew) of the same cheat path. One triggers by itself Martin's as you showed, the other however if I don't edit with the mod that at some point option:18 from true by itself changes to false, it doesn't trigger.