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as the first and most important piece of test says "F95ZONE_UNAVAILABLE", which is pretty intuitive. it happens sometimes as the forum can be unstable. it fixes itself after a while. as stated multiple times, it becomes an issue if it doesnt resolve itself within 6 hours or so. and then again, if f95zone is not reachable chances are i cant do anything on my end to fix it.
Yeh. Cuz you would have to hack the site while the servers are down. And I don't even think Abby or Tim can do that.
 
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Very helpful tool, thanks for building this!

Is it possible to add the preview images to the downloaded metadata as well?

It helps to sort of refresh the memory on games that don't get frequent updates
 
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Very helpful tool, thanks for building this!

Is it possible to add the preview images to the downloaded metadata as well?

It helps to sort of refresh the memory on games that don't get frequent updates
This has been asked for a few times (including by me), it is something that WillyJL is looking into in the C re-write (that is ongoing). For now we are stuck opening F95 to view the preview images.
 
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errors appear due to a couple of games:
Lust for Life

Twisted Fate: Lust & Power



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I'm getting the same error on The Artifact Part Two and Wet Sand.
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For me it happens for, FIGHTING GIRL MEI

It's also blocking for other searches, when this error appears the search stops.
When I removed the game, F95 Checker told me there were a couple updates available.

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Look here for answer.

On a related note, seems the F95 servers have been overloaded a lot lately for some reason (much more than usual). Last night the attachment server was unreachable for a few hours even.
 

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Noticed that the F95Checker doesn't update the mod's Last Updated date entry in its list if the Game Version date of a mod forum OP stays the same, but Mod Version changes. Even changing the Updated date is ignored.
Here's an example mod page where the Checker's date still shows 20/08/2025 when the Game Version was corrected from v0.8.1b to v0.8b1 what can be checked in the Checker's Timeline tab. There have been a couple of mod updates afterwards without date update although at least gave an alert popup.
The separated Mod Version and Game Version entries are part of the default F95 Mods template when someone starts a new topic in the Mods forum, so this should really be respected and better supported. In the end, the mod's version changes are more important than the game version here.
I personally mixed both dates to Game/Mod Version with my own mod page what the Checker scans correctly for changes.
 

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Noticed that the F95Checker doesn't update the mod's Last Updated date entry in its list if the Game Version date of a mod forum OP stays the same, but Mod Version changes. Even changing the Updated date is ignored.
Here's an example mod page where the Checker's date still shows 20/08/2025 when the Game Version was corrected from v0.8.1b to v0.8b1 what can be checked in the Checker's Timeline tab. There have been a couple of mod updates afterwards without date update although at least gave an alert popup.
The separated Mod Version and Game Version entries are part of the default F95 Mods template when someone starts a new topic in the Mods forum, so this should really be respected and better supported. In the end, the mod's version changes are more important than the game version here.
I personally mixed both dates to Game/Mod Version with my own mod page what the Checker scans correctly for changes.
As I understand it, the reason is that the mod pages are not held to as rigid a standard as the game pages, which in turn makes it nearly impossible to compensate for programmatically. The mod pages will be loaded, but it's considered pot luck.
I personally have mod pages in my library, but only for lazy convenience since they are not reliable.
edit: the date may have been updated but the database has not. Edit2: you can search the threads. I do remember this has been discussed.
 
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Noticed that the F95Checker doesn't update the mod's Last Updated date entry in its list if the Game Version date of a mod forum OP stays the same, but Mod Version changes. Even changing the Updated date is ignored.
Here's an example mod page where the Checker's date still shows 20/08/2025 when the Game Version was corrected from v0.8.1b to v0.8b1 what can be checked in the Checker's Timeline tab. There have been a couple of mod updates afterwards without date update although at least gave an alert popup.
The separated Mod Version and Game Version entries are part of the default F95 Mods template when someone starts a new topic in the Mods forum, so this should really be respected and better supported. In the end, the mod's version changes are more important than the game version here.
I personally mixed both dates to Game/Mod Version with my own mod page what the Checker scans correctly for changes.
right, i see. so for some backstory, last updated date has always been a pain. there is no reliable way to have this info. the latest updates api has the date that an update was "promoted" (as in, bumped to the front of latest updates), which some games never get promoted as its only for major updates usually and there is a system in place to prevent abuse, and also sometimes moderators promote with incorrect date or forget to promote. there is the "thread updated"/"release date" field in game threads, which moderators can forget to update or typo it and put a date in 2053. there is the date that the thread was edited, which would mean it would register non-updates as a new last updated date.
long ago f95checker only used the "thread updated"/"release date" field in game threads, some time later i switched to only using latest updates "promoted" date, and neither worked well.
what happens now is that it bumps the last updated date when the cache api (which is what your f95checker client gets info from, it sits between f95checker and f95zone to prevent ddossing the forum) notices the version changing. that has been the best system so far. new version number means an update, so bump the updated date.
when possible, version info uses what latest updates reports, as even if promoting can be hit or miss the versions are very reliable on it. however as GrammerCop pointed out mods are held to a lesser standards than games, they are not tracked by latest updates, so there is no "single source of truth" for mod versions. in this case it falls back to parsing the thread for version info. currently the code that does this is:
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thread_version = get_game_attr("version", "game version", "mod version")
which finds the first field (case insensitive) of the names provided and uses that one if present.
the example you gave has "game version" and "mod version", so it finds game version before mod version. hence why updating the mod versions for same game version doesnt change the version attribute in f95checker and why last updated date doesnt change.

i suppose i could prioritize mod version over game version, afterall even if a game thread included a link to a mod with the version listed in the game thread too, it would list the game version just as "version" and thus still be prioritized over mod version.

being a change in the cache api, this will slowly apply to all threads over the next week as caches get invalidated and refreshed. for your example, f95checker will start reporting 0.7.1 (mod version) instead of 0.8b1 (game version) sometime within a week from now.

As I understand it, the reason is that the mod pages are not held to as rigid a standard as the game pages, which in turn makes it nearly impossible to compensate for programmatically. The mod pages will be loaded, but it's considered pot luck.
I personally have mod pages in my library, but only for lazy convenience since they are not reliable.
edit: the date may have been updated but the database has not. Edit2: you can search the threads. I do remember this has been discussed.
this is absolutely correct, mod pages get recached less often on average, but yeah i think they meant a more subtle nuance with how the last updated date behaves
 

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Anyone else just get a bunch of "updated" items in the checker, that weren't updated (not even close). I just got this:

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when I opened the checker. And I had run it earlier today with no such results.
Anyway, none of those were updated. Some of them were last updated many months, if not years, ago. The most recent one updated was 12 days back. Last date of topic edit was also in the past, sometimes WAY in the past.

Definitely curious what happened there, lol.
 

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Anyone else just get a bunch of "updated" items in the checker, that weren't updated (not even close). I just got this:

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when I opened the checker. And I had run it earlier today with no such results.
Anyway, none of those were updated. Some of them were last updated many months, if not years, ago. The most recent one updated was 12 days back. Last date of topic edit was also in the past, sometimes WAY in the past.

Definitely curious what happened there, lol.
i dont track any mods, but could it have anything to do with the msg above yours
 
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Anyone else just get a bunch of "updated" items in the checker, that weren't updated (not even close). I just got this:

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when I opened the checker. And I had run it earlier today with no such results.
Anyway, none of those were updated. Some of them were last updated many months, if not years, ago. The most recent one updated was 12 days back. Last date of topic edit was also in the past, sometimes WAY in the past.

Definitely curious what happened there, lol.
Again, mods. read the post above yours.
 
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Well, I'm baffled then. But if I've understood those posts (and I'm not saying that I do understand them, lol)... what I'm seeing appears to be the opposite of what was said to be the issue?
All those items in my screenshot only show yesterday's date, on the bottom line for each.
Not a single one of those mods was actually updated in any way.
The post date, the release date, the last-edit dates, every date on the actual topic for that entry is in the past, sometimes by years.

And it happened again today with 3 new ones.
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Not one of those has had any edit at all; every date on their respective topic is well in the past.
4 years in the past for the first two, 2 years in the past for the last one.

I must be missing something. Where is the change to the item, that is causing the Checker to pick them up as "updated"?
 

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Well, I'm baffled then. But if I've understood those posts (and I'm not saying that I do understand them, lol)... what I'm seeing appears to be the opposite of what was said to be the issue?
All those items in my screenshot only show yesterday's date, on the bottom line for each.
Not a single one of those mods was actually updated in any way.
The post date, the release date, the last-edit dates, every date on the actual topic for that entry is in the past, sometimes by years.

And it happened again today with 3 new ones.
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Not one of those has had any edit at all; every date on their respective topic is well in the past.
4 years in the past for the first two, 2 years in the past for the last one.

I must be missing something. Where is the change to the item, that is causing the Checker to pick them up as "updated"?
It shows the changes. There might be no changes to the game, but to the named title or version ex: Ch7.1 -> Ch7.1b.
 

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It shows the changes. There might be no changes to the game, but to the named title or version ex: Ch7.1 -> Ch7.1b.
OK, then why do the forum topics for the mod, and the topic for its associated game, show no edits... at all?

(Specifically, for example, the "Last edited by a moderator: Yesterday at 6:19 AM" entry in the lower part of each OP, but anywhere really.)

Every visible date on the two topics for each, are far in the past.

Are they being "silently edited", and the checker is picking up on that?
 

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Using only this image in reply.
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OK, then why do the forum topics for the mod, and the topic for its associated game, show no edits... at all?
Probably because the mod file was already updated to that version, and somebody finally got around to updating the database.
(Specifically, for example, the "Last edited by a moderator: Yesterday at 6:19 AM" entry in the lower part of each OP, but anywhere really.) This is really easy to answer. This applies to the post only.
Every visible date on the two topics for each, are far in the past.
Again re-read this thread.
Are they being "silently edited", and the checker is picking up on that?
I doubt it.

I will not answer any more questions about this because the questions have already been answered.

Also, I'm not going to answer any more questions about the updated date as it is currently a forbidden topic on this thread. (It makes WillyJL sound like a sailor, and we don't want that anymore.)
 
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Well, I'm baffled then. But if I've understood those posts (and I'm not saying that I do understand them, lol)... what I'm seeing appears to be the opposite of what was said to be the issue?
All those items in my screenshot only show yesterday's date, on the bottom line for each.
Not a single one of those mods was actually updated in any way.
The post date, the release date, the last-edit dates, every date on the actual topic for that entry is in the past, sometimes by years.

And it happened again today with 3 new ones.
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Not one of those has had any edit at all; every date on their respective topic is well in the past.
4 years in the past for the first two, 2 years in the past for the last one.

I must be missing something. Where is the change to the item, that is causing the Checker to pick them up as "updated"?
as i said in my post you apparently read, a change of version number means it counts as an update. since i changed *what* version it uses, it means all the version numbers for mods are now different, which counts as an "update". this is a one time occurrence over the next week while all mods get the correct version applied to them, and from then on it will detect mod version updates correctly, which it did not before.
 
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