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Gonna be a lot of haters, but the way I see it is at least there is a shit load of other games and VN's on this site for said haters to play/read until the dev completes this amazing story. I, for one, am looking forward to the completion of the remake. Also, I like how the characters are more detailed. So what's the saying? 'Props' to the dev. Great VN. Don't let the haters get you down to the point you abandon like a lot of devs do, because then those that do support you would be sad. 
- Nov 21, 2018
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- Nov 21, 2018
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I am new to this game. As far as I understand, the game has been going through a revamp for quite some time. Where the hell were these commenters then? Did they just not check in after all that time to find out what is going on? Seems like they didnt have much interest in the first place if thats the case.Gonna be a lot of haters, but the way I see it is at least there is a shit load of other games and VN's on this site for said haters to play/read until the dev completes this amazing story. I, for one, am looking forward to the completion of the remake. Also, I like how the characters are more detailed. So what's the saying? 'Props' to the dev. Great VN. Don't let the haters get you down to the point you abandon like a lot of devs do, because then those that do support you would be sad.
- Dec 26, 2019
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... for now... or at least until I can think of good plot point of having it valid, lol. I personally don't mind the tag, but I do wanna make sure it'll fit without anyone feeling... hurt? If that makes any sense
- Nov 21, 2018
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On the one hand, it's an admirable approach to almost start over again. On the other, you can understand the frustration there'll undoubtedly be for doing such a move. I can't say how long it'd taken to get up to the last update before "beginning" at the start, but I'm sure you know that there will be a lot of annoyance on here, so perhaps it'd be best to not frequent here for a little while. Build back with the work you're gonna have to put in.
Because the truth is you're going to have to prove that you made the right move, and back it up with the updates. Be completely honest with your workflow and progress. It might be asking too much to peel back the curtain to that extent, but as a consumer we mostly care about the content and time.
All that being said, I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out of this. I'd enjoyed what had happened up until the restart and was eager to press on in the story
Because the truth is you're going to have to prove that you made the right move, and back it up with the updates. Be completely honest with your workflow and progress. It might be asking too much to peel back the curtain to that extent, but as a consumer we mostly care about the content and time.
All that being said, I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out of this. I'd enjoyed what had happened up until the restart and was eager to press on in the story
- Jun 6, 2017
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So not only is it a remake, the convoluted planned releases go all the way into oblivion.
In what? 2 years? Based on past release cycle. You'll have 8 "episodes" that aren't a "chapters." Each "chapter" has up to 4 "episodes." But each "release" won't even be one "episode" or "chapter" but two "episodes"
Are you confused yet? Probably not because I broke it down too simply in my mild frustration. But why break them down like this? Cause 100 is a big number? 24(ish) chapters over 48(ish) releases is also a big number, less daunting too.
Look, I know I'm one of the harsher critics here, and I am all for a narrative and story rewrite, in theory. However, once you get to chapter 3 again and feel you can improve something else, you can't, and shouldn't, halt the project for another rework. Because this really will never end at that point. I'm Tentatively Interested in what this could be without MC walking into a mall and 8 girls falling in love with him literally on sight. But, now that everything is scrapped and we're starting with zero, you're gonna have to work your ass off to impress and/or bring everyone back.
Best of luck to 13, by all means. But 20+ chapters, the north end of what, 15 LIs? Along with reworking it just as the story got interesting? I can only imagine the nightmare of that development hell.
In what? 2 years? Based on past release cycle. You'll have 8 "episodes" that aren't a "chapters." Each "chapter" has up to 4 "episodes." But each "release" won't even be one "episode" or "chapter" but two "episodes"
Are you confused yet? Probably not because I broke it down too simply in my mild frustration. But why break them down like this? Cause 100 is a big number? 24(ish) chapters over 48(ish) releases is also a big number, less daunting too.
Look, I know I'm one of the harsher critics here, and I am all for a narrative and story rewrite, in theory. However, once you get to chapter 3 again and feel you can improve something else, you can't, and shouldn't, halt the project for another rework. Because this really will never end at that point. I'm Tentatively Interested in what this could be without MC walking into a mall and 8 girls falling in love with him literally on sight. But, now that everything is scrapped and we're starting with zero, you're gonna have to work your ass off to impress and/or bring everyone back.
Best of luck to 13, by all means. But 20+ chapters, the north end of what, 15 LIs? Along with reworking it just as the story got interesting? I can only imagine the nightmare of that development hell.
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- Feb 29, 2020
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I wont lie, I think more than literally any other game on this site, this game is probably the one I'm the most okay with getting a remake.
Granted, I never got particularly far into the game when I played it, but I generally liked what I saw, I think it was just let down by a variety of pacing, character, and story issues that a remake could do wonders to fix. There are all the obvious concerns of burnout, an overwhelming workload, etc., but I'm sure the dev was already well aware of that before they decided to go for the remake, so I doubt they need more people telling them all the ways it can go wrong.
Anywho, best of luck Sin, and as long as the characters' interest in the MC is even slightly more believable than it was before, and the MC doesn't act like a 12 year old despite being centuries old, I think I'll be happy.
Granted, I never got particularly far into the game when I played it, but I generally liked what I saw, I think it was just let down by a variety of pacing, character, and story issues that a remake could do wonders to fix. There are all the obvious concerns of burnout, an overwhelming workload, etc., but I'm sure the dev was already well aware of that before they decided to go for the remake, so I doubt they need more people telling them all the ways it can go wrong.
Anywho, best of luck Sin, and as long as the characters' interest in the MC is even slightly more believable than it was before, and the MC doesn't act like a 12 year old despite being centuries old, I think I'll be happy.
- May 28, 2021
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How I am Feeling now that it has become a back and fourth time jump now basically calling the First season just a prolog.
But im not sure yet.
I Understand the need to fix things and improve But how hard is it for devs to just FINISH THE PROJECT FIRST and then come back and remake it because we all know when your done you will make another vn and you will come back and improve this again like all you end up doing is nailing your own coffin because you felt it was not good enough and that ends up being teh downfall of so many devs since they cannot get their plans laid correctly without the need to keep changing it.
Its a project that you will not get right the first time but that is how you learn and how you grow a following but showing us the faults in the project which give us humor or makes up happy or sad due to the unrefined natured of the storey overall.
Also most parts in this Ep. just feel to forced in my honest thoughts especially trying to flesh out more of their backstories since well half of these people shown arent really even going to be main parts for later since we saw a fair chuck in prolog delt with.
That being said.
I Do like the idea of your roadmap and the way you do put new features into the new parts when you make instead of devs that update pretty much ep. to ep. after they just finish the ep. so then we dont fully have to wait for a "Total Remake"
Either way for this i say Time will Tell but I Want to Hope for Good things.
Good Luck Keep it up.
- Mar 31, 2022
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If you're not actively supporting the game, who fucking cares? Seriously, who cares if the game has started over when most of you are playing for free in the first place.
Saying you're going to abandon the game and not play it any more is peak childishness. Ditto saying you'll play it again in a few years.
Complaining about when games you like and play for free ad things you don't like is one thing, but this is just moronic.
Saying you're going to abandon the game and not play it any more is peak childishness. Ditto saying you'll play it again in a few years.
Complaining about when games you like and play for free ad things you don't like is one thing, but this is just moronic.
- Dec 26, 2019
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So to try to make it make sense... the "Episodes" are actually what I renamed the previous "Sections". Remember the Beach scene in Chapter III? That was one of those Sections of Chapter III. All I did was have a definite number of Sections per Chapter.
So Chapter I will have 16, Chapter II will have 16... so on and so forth, lol. The only ones that will have 8 are the Prologue and Epilogue. Instead of them being called Sections, they're now just Episodes, one that I can release in batches. I really want to be able to do nothing but work on the game and give you guys all the updates much sooner and in bigger chunks... but I don't have that luxury, unfortunately.
So in short........ 112 Episodes (Sections) in total, 8 Chapters that are split into 2 Acts... up to 4 Episodes (hopefully) per release... which means there will be at least a minimum of 28 Releases planned
- Mar 31, 2022
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Finished all of the new release. Love the new intro before getting to the main menu, really good. Biggest take away from from both MC's prologue and the teaser of Aliza's is that the story has been changed waaaay more than I thought it was going to be.
Also, I like how a lot of the side and main characters are getting more fleshed out, and given more depth. Even the ones doomed to die are being made people, people with hopes and dreams etc, so we're going to actual care when they die. They're not just NPCs 1 2 and 3 etc. Similarly I liked seeing the seeds planted for Isaac and Ryley. But as I said, the story has been changed a lot, so it'll be interesting to see all the knock on effects and how the rest of the story plays out
Also, I like how a lot of the side and main characters are getting more fleshed out, and given more depth. Even the ones doomed to die are being made people, people with hopes and dreams etc, so we're going to actual care when they die. They're not just NPCs 1 2 and 3 etc. Similarly I liked seeing the seeds planted for Isaac and Ryley. But as I said, the story has been changed a lot, so it'll be interesting to see all the knock on effects and how the rest of the story plays out
- Aug 8, 2017
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Always do YOUR VN/Game YOUR way and the way you want it to be done.
You and other dev's will always get the "rabble rouser" and the killjoys no mater what you do.
Remember this is a pirate site and a lot of the players here only want 1 thing, porn.
- Aug 17, 2021
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good luck with 99 more episodes, i do not envy the work you have to put in, i will say i prefer linear over sandbox so im not grinding character stats, looking forward to more, looks great so far
- Jun 6, 2017
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Lol so even more convoluted? I'm actually more confused now than I was.
Wait, okay. It is very poorly explained in OP. I got it MORE WRONG than I even thought. Might wanna revise to simply "Eight planned chapters with about two releases per chapter" to clear that up.
- Dec 26, 2019
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I'm taking a small (forced) break from development, lol... IRL work and Drill have my attention this week and weekend, but will be back to working on the game shortly after. We've actually had a lot of Episode 2 done, but I wanted to provide you guys something now in the mean time with how busy I am
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This release is just the first episode. Episode 2 is already worked on a good bit. Next release will have 2 of them(episodes). Probably the biggest reason that updates aren't so close to each other is because the dev still works a full time job lol. Wake up,eat,work,come home, work on game until he NEEDS sleep. Then repeat for the most part. He posts progress updates fairly often in the discord. The channel is legit called "progress updates" lol. When the 8 prologues are done, we get to chapter 1. The first of 8 is out and the next release will have the next 2. Well..
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According to the roadmap in the discord....
All the prologues? 8 "episodes". the first one is already done. The "secret" he was talking about is just
After those 8 "episodes" we reach the main story, Chapter 1. Chapter 1 is episodes 9-24. Think of the word episodes as sections. Chapter 1 will have 15 sections AKA episodes.
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According to the roadmap in the discord....
All the prologues? 8 "episodes". the first one is already done. The "secret" he was talking about is just
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Words of wisdom tbh.
