Ren'Py Family, Friends and Strangers [v2024.10] [JohnAndRich]

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incest lover m/s

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on this site this game is listed as a game with the theme of family sex m/s, what's really in it?

which can i trust?
 

yazda

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Good ending for B route it wrapped up the story nicely and hopefully A route is just as good but with an evil ending. I'm also looking forward for your next game.
I really want an Emily ending. The least you could do do as a friend never mind a boyfriend is to to get her out of of ALC together with the innocent dude.
 

yunmaster

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I do not wish for NTR.
But their misdeeds ended too soon.
I expected a lot, but it came to a conclusion too soon.
I thought they would destroy the MC surroundings with great misdeeds, but they were just petty thieves.
 
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desmosome

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Jesus, you guys are so hung up on tags. There is the typical Japanese style NTR stories that follow the usual structure of NTR progression. Then there is the western stuff that are cuckoldy (usually more about male protag humiliation than female corruption).

Then there are the stories that don't follow strict genre conventions. This is one of those. Tags should just be a guideline for the players to get an idea because you never know how weighty the tag is or even if the tag is correctly used by your standards.

To me, this isn't an NTR story at all, and that's been pretty evident for a while. The writer never really delves into the NTR tropes. There is rape, blackmail, sexual misconduct, misunderstanding, betrayal, and other unsavory elements in the story, but there was never a corruption arc for the mom or GF. Plus, the characters are entirely grounded in reality (except Parker's braindead moment regarding Becky's pic lol). That's almost antithetical to NTR which relies quite a bit on tropes.

Maybe this is the NTR that some people have been asking for. One where the MC turns things around lol. Maybe it's not NTR at all. Whatever you want to call it, just appreciate the damn story as the dev intended.
 

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Jesus, you guys are so hung up on tags. There is the typical Japanese style NTR stories that follow the usual structure of NTR progression. Then there is the western stuff that are cuckoldy (usually more about male protag humiliation than female corruption).

Then there are the stories that don't follow strict genre conventions. This is one of those. Tags should just be a guideline for the players to get an idea because you never know how weighty the tag is or even if the tag is correctly used by your standards.

To me, this isn't an NTR story at all, and that's been pretty evident for a while. The writer never really delves into the NTR tropes. There is rape, blackmail, sexual misconduct, misunderstanding, betrayal, and other unsavory elements in the story, but there was never a corruption arc for the mom or GF. Plus, the characters are entirely grounded in reality (except Parker's braindead moment regarding Becky's pic lol). That's almost antithetical to NTR which relies quite a bit on tropes.

Maybe this is the NTR that some people have been asking for. One where the MC turns things around lol. Maybe it's not NTR at all. Whatever you want to call it, just appreciate the damn story as the dev intended.
I mean when I play it I can explain if there is NTR or not. It's not as ambiguous a tag as so many people think.
Cheating isn't NTR if the boyfriend isn't there witnessing it for example, it's just plain old cheating at that point.
Blackmail can lead to NTR that's the only thing you mentioned that usually leads to it.
A mc's mom getting groped isn't NTR which I remember was a discussion early on.
THe main issue many people have with this tag is that when a female character fucks someone else and the MC doesn't know they feel that they themselves have been NTR'd which I will never be able to understand.

Edit, So I played it just now, there was a whole whopping 0 NTR, I can see a 3rd route existing where there is plenty though.
 
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clowns234

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To me, this isn't an NTR story at all, and that's been pretty evident for a while. The writer never really delves into the NTR tropes. There is rape, blackmail, sexual misconduct, misunderstanding, betrayal, and other unsavory elements in the story, but there was never a corruption arc for the mom or GF. Plus, the characters are entirely grounded in reality (except Parker's braindead moment regarding Becky's pic lol). That's almost antithetical to NTR which relies quite a bit on tropes.

Maybe this is the NTR that some people have been asking for. One where the MC turns things around lol. Maybe it's not NTR at all. Whatever you want to call it, just appreciate the damn story as the dev intended.
If I recall, this story got the NTR tag because the anti-NTR people bitched until it was put there.
 
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the game is well, so-so the plot of a simple animation is small galleries of repetitions for 1 second, well, the game for 3 can be said to be done, not hooked with anything
 
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Pi Quantum

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Loved the ending to this path. Had some good humour in it, some nice touching moments, which I love. Very well done, thanks! Looking forward to seeing where the other path ends up. Oh, and I loved the part with what happened to Emily, I noticed who was having sex with Emily on the cover of that DVD. LOL... nice touch. :)
Loved the 'Daily Whopper' shots, as well as the amusing articles around the title. Is '1422' another Easter Egg? The paper's pics/mugshots with those crazy eye tilts were great.

I was expecting Carl to end up behind the camera at one of Emily's shoots, to be honest. His pornstache/goatee would have fitted right in. It feels bizarre to feel sympathy for Emily after feeling so much hostility towards her in earlier chapters, but surprise twists that alter your perception of the characters have always been one of Rich's greatest strengths. That's why I'm keen to see what befalls Mrs Vandermeer on the A path and fear the potential fates for Melissa. :eek:
 

AlfredBundy4

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This isn't the A-path, this is the B-path... the other path is (presumably) now in the works. Quit pouting.
Exactly. This isn't the path I care about (was always a bit boring for me) but it's just one path and ended fine.

The other paths will come next. There isn't an issue here.
 

mr.AwesomeGameTaste

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I have to say I'm surprised how good it felt to play this. Sure,it could seem a bit too soon,but the writing was much better than I thought. I liked the ending overall,and all characters pretty much got what they deserved,and their endings were in character. I was kinda starting to like Emily more and more,and I wish we had a choice between her and Becky in the end. Then Again,idk if her transition into a "good girl" while being with Parker was genuine and if she would have stayed that way if Parker stayed with her,or maybe she was always gonna be a hoe and just had a small break with Parker. Shame this doesn't have better animations bc the bad ones are a turn off for me.Let's hope for a good bad ending.
 
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