Ren'Py Family, Friends and Strangers [v2024.10] [JohnAndRich]

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LuciferPrometheus

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Ah, behold the curious case of the naysayers, those pitiful souls who, earlier in this thread, dared challenge the potential veracity of this magnum opus, claiming its core premise to be as unrealistic as a unicorn riding a rainbow. Oh, how they cower in the shadows of their own ignorance, unable to fathom the degree of prescience contained therein.

It is quite amusing, my esteemed Gentle Readers, to witness the audacity of these miscreants, who think themselves the arbiters of truth. Oh, but fear not, for we have a trump card to silence their foolish prattle! Prepare to witness a spectacle, a grand display of evidence that shall render their feeble arguments as irrelevant as yesterday's news.

Oh, the irony! They dare suggest that blue-shirted arbiters of the law, in this modern age, would never comport themselves in such a manner as I have described. Ha! Little do they know that fiction can weave a tapestry of reality so profound that even the boundaries of possibility tremble in its wake.

Surely, none of you, my dear Gentle Readers, would ever stoop to such ludicrous claims. For you are enlightened beings, capable of appreciating the artistry of a tale unshackled by the chains of conventional norms. But alas, the world is rife with skepticism, and so, we arm ourselves with Exhibit A, a weapon of irrefutable proof to thwart the feeble minds that may attempt to defile our literary masterpiece, and once more proving, far from the first time, that what one man can imagine, another may do.

While the author willingly concedes that certain individual scenes within this opus may have strained the boundaries of plausibility, this is, none the less, adult fiction, in which certain license is not only allowed, but expected.

Thus, without further ado, the aforementioned Exhibit A:

Where the Sheriff Is King, These Women Say He Coerced Them Into Sex




and


It continues, largely in the same vein as one might imagine, but one would expect the Discerning Reader to easily notice the similarities between this factual account and our fanciful one.

So, let the cynics take heed and retreat to their envious caves of skepticism, for this author has spoken.


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OK, that was fun to write. LOL

Rich
I am glad that you received this good news, Rich. Really happy for you.
 
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Ah, behold the curious case of the naysayers, those pitiful souls who, earlier in this thread, dared challenge the potential veracity of this magnum opus, claiming its core premise to be as unrealistic as a unicorn riding a rainbow. Oh, how they cower in the shadows of their own ignorance, unable to fathom the degree of prescience contained therein.

It is quite amusing, my esteemed Gentle Readers, to witness the audacity of these miscreants, who think themselves the arbiters of truth. Oh, but fear not, for we have a trump card to silence their foolish prattle! Prepare to witness a spectacle, a grand display of evidence that shall render their feeble arguments as irrelevant as yesterday's news.

Oh, the irony! They dare suggest that blue-shirted arbiters of the law, in this modern age, would never comport themselves in such a manner as I have described. Ha! Little do they know that fiction can weave a tapestry of reality so profound that even the boundaries of possibility tremble in its wake.

Surely, none of you, my dear Gentle Readers, would ever stoop to such ludicrous claims. For you are enlightened beings, capable of appreciating the artistry of a tale unshackled by the chains of conventional norms. But alas, the world is rife with skepticism, and so, we arm ourselves with Exhibit A, a weapon of irrefutable proof to thwart the feeble minds that may attempt to defile our literary masterpiece, and once more proving, far from the first time, that what one man can imagine, another may do.

While the author willingly concedes that certain individual scenes within this opus may have strained the boundaries of plausibility, this is, none the less, adult fiction, in which certain license is not only allowed, but expected.

Thus, without further ado, the aforementioned Exhibit A:

Where the Sheriff Is King, These Women Say He Coerced Them Into Sex




and


It continues, largely in the same vein as one might imagine, but one would expect the Discerning Reader to easily notice the similarities between this factual account and our fanciful one.

So, let the cynics take heed and retreat to their envious caves of skepticism, for this author has spoken.


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OK, that was fun to write. LOL

Rich
Well said! Quite the wordsmith, today. I'm impressed! Although your words may be beyond the comprehension of those you intended to reach. :)
 
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Ah, behold the curious case of the naysayers, those pitiful souls who, earlier in this thread, dared challenge the potential veracity of this magnum opus, claiming its core premise to be as unrealistic as a unicorn riding a rainbow. Oh, how they cower in the shadows of their own ignorance, unable to fathom the degree of prescience contained therein.

It is quite amusing, my esteemed Gentle Readers, to witness the audacity of these miscreants, who think themselves the arbiters of truth. Oh, but fear not, for we have a trump card to silence their foolish prattle! Prepare to witness a spectacle, a grand display of evidence that shall render their feeble arguments as irrelevant as yesterday's news.

Oh, the irony! They dare suggest that blue-shirted arbiters of the law, in this modern age, would never comport themselves in such a manner as I have described. Ha! Little do they know that fiction can weave a tapestry of reality so profound that even the boundaries of possibility tremble in its wake.

Surely, none of you, my dear Gentle Readers, would ever stoop to such ludicrous claims. For you are enlightened beings, capable of appreciating the artistry of a tale unshackled by the chains of conventional norms. But alas, the world is rife with skepticism, and so, we arm ourselves with Exhibit A, a weapon of irrefutable proof to thwart the feeble minds that may attempt to defile our literary masterpiece, and once more proving, far from the first time, that what one man can imagine, another may do.

While the author willingly concedes that certain individual scenes within this opus may have strained the boundaries of plausibility, this is, none the less, adult fiction, in which certain license is not only allowed, but expected.

Thus, without further ado, the aforementioned Exhibit A:

Where the Sheriff Is King, These Women Say He Coerced Them Into Sex




and


It continues, largely in the same vein as one might imagine, but one would expect the Discerning Reader to easily notice the similarities between this factual account and our fanciful one.

So, let the cynics take heed and retreat to their envious caves of skepticism, for this author has spoken.


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OK, that was fun to write. LOL

Rich
Lesson One:
Never challenge a writer who does his research :ROFLMAO:

The veracity of the premise is easily substantiated. The variations of manifestation are innumerable and diverse. To impugn the probability of the occurance of such comportment is folly.

Nuff said.
 
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I am convinced that this thread is ripe with time wasting ****** ******* distracting Rich from his work.
 

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I am convinced that this thread is ripe with time wasting ****** ******* distracting Rich from his work.
Whether the content is time wasting ****** ******* is very much an "eye of the beholder" thing, but, I don't consider it distracting. I do spend time in this thread almost every day, and I enjoy the interactions with those who lurk here with me. (Even the ones with negative comments - you learn something from everyone.) But "distracting me from my work?" No.

If it's any proof, in the past 7 days I've completed about 550 renders. (Granted, many of them are frames in animations as opposed to standalone renders, but my machine has been kept quite busy churning away at them.)

And, no, I won't give you a "percent done" or anything like that. FAQ #3.
 

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I think the game has lost the magic and interest of the first 4 chapters. It was the game that brought me here, that's why I'm still following it
Entirely possible, since JohnCBB (the original writer) left the game after Chapter 4, and since then you've been stuck with me doing the writing. I don't claim to have replicated where he would have taken things, or the tone in which he would have written them. All I can claim is that I made a promise to myself (and to people here) that I was going to finish the project, JohnCBB or no JohnCBB. If the twists and turns the plots has taken don't please you, well, thank you for dropping by, and good luck finding something you like better.
 
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Don't listen to the negative comments just do what u love bro, this community is F UP
Thanks. Early in the project, I got very hurt by some of the negative comments. My skin is a lot thicker now and, yes, I'm doing my own thing. Still, some of the negative comments have something you can learn from, so I don't entirely discount them either.

And if you think this community is bad, well, you haven't visited some of the other similar sites... LOL
 

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What is your view of AI for art? Is there scope of improving image and animation render work? Or is it all hype?
I think you have to separate the "what's there now" from "what it might evolve into," and also be careful when you use the term "AI," because its meaning has morphed over the years. (In my past, I've seen "expert systems" being "what AI was," followed by neural networks, followed by other things. In some respect "AI" always seems "the part we can't quite figure out how to do yet." LOL)

I've seen some very impressive pieces generated by some of the "generative AI" systems out there - @FanFiction, who does the "Whores of Thrones" series for which I do the coding, has used some of the online tools to generate some VERY impressive shots he's shared with me.

However, much of the current generative AI has the limitation that it has to start with something concrete. So, it's been trained on tons of images (or text in the case of ChatGBT) off the Internet. It can put those sources together in very interesting ways, but it's still just manipulating things that it's "seen out there." So, in the current state of affairs, I think you'd have a very hard time using AI to generate the kind of art that we tend to include in visual novels.

I would not, however, at all rule out that new breakthroughs close that gap over time.

One place that I could see AI having an influence quite soon is with the tools that are being added to packages like Photoshop. For example, suppose I'm creating a VN that's supposed to be of "film noir" style, but I'm not really good at creating the kind of lighting effects that characterize that genre. I could definitely see tools being able to do some of those kinds of transformations - take images that you build and then transforming them. I did some experimentation once with post-processing relatively vanilla Daz Studio images into something a bit more "Sin City"-like for example. That kind of manipulation I could definitely see as possible either now or very soon - "take this image and transform it into the style of X."

Plus, there's a bunch of other things that may or may not be "AI," but which are getting more and more sophisticated. We've seen the kinds of special effects that "de-age" people or bring dead people back to life (Peter Cushing in Rogue One). The ability to create "deep fakes" is getting better and better and cheaper and cheaper - to the point where this could be a societal problem in the future.

Anyway, that's a bunch of rambling. I'm not sure whether it answered your question, but it's all my brain can come up with right now.
 

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Thanks. Early in the project, I got very hurt by some of the negative comments. My skin is a lot thicker now and, yes, I'm doing my own thing. Still, some of the negative comments have something you can learn from, so I don't entirely discount them either.

And if you think this community is bad, well, you haven't visited some of the other similar sites... LOL
Yah I didn't visit any other communities I had enough stress with just being on this one lol.
 

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Entirely possible, since JohnCBB (the original writer) left the game after Chapter 4, and since then you've been stuck with me doing the writing. I don't claim to have replicated where he would have taken things, or the tone in which he would have written them. All I can claim is that I made a promise to myself (and to people here) that I was going to finish the project, JohnCBB or no JohnCBB. If the twists and turns the plots has taken don't please you, well, thank you for dropping by, and good luck finding something you like better.
Out of curiositiy why did he decide to leave the project?
 

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Out of respect for him, I think all I should say is "personal reasons." No ill will from my end, and I'm still in touch with him from time to time.
That is fair enough. Was just gonna say if it was out of a lack of belief you would have proven him wrong but I am glad you that is not the case and you are still in touch.
 
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