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girlfairdev

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he actually is beholden to the people on patreon because they're paying him
Incorrect. You are not paying him. You are giving him money. It is support. Nothing more. It buys you nothing. No obligations on the dev's part, no promises to you. You pay the money. Patreon takes their piece off the top and the rest goes to the developer who does what he pleases with it. The intent behind your giving him the money (by the premise under which Patreon was created) was to support the developer in the further development of his craft. But there is nothing in place that will promise you, or even give assurances to you the money will be used that way. It's sort of like throwing cash into the guitar case of a street performer. You liked what you heard so you tossed him some cash, not knowing if he'll use it for guitar strings or for a six pack. Here it's the same thing. You like what he's creating so you tossed him some cash. All you are 'entitled' to with your donation is the warm and fuzzy you get helping the guy along on his path to success. Now I will note the developers have found a way to manipulate the Patreon "support" model turning it into a paywall for updates. Premium members, gold members, silver members, all that nonsense. I don't participate in that either. If you do, all the power to you. It's your money.

Actually the way most of the world works you are beholden to the people who pays you.
There's no actually about it. That's precisely why IMO the creation of the Patreon model is an abysmal failure. The way it operates in no way resembles the way most of the world works. If that is what you were expecting you will certainly be disappointed. If you are expecting that it was ever intended to be; or ever will be, you are delusional. Again, you aren't "paying" anyone anything. In Patreon and SS, or when you buy someone a cup of coffee you are giving your money to the cause, nothing more.
 

Saint Blackmoor

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Well for one, you subscribe and donate and the game gets abandoned. What about your money?

Or a game like this may have been collecting all this time even though it was abandoned.

I suppose you can call it a success rather than failure depending on what side you're viewing from.
None of that makes sense.

You know going in that there is no guarantee. You know you are not getting your money back if that's what you mean by "what about your money?"
It's like giving to charity or even to a homeless person. You are saying I want to help, now it's up to the recipient of your money as to what happens to the money. If they don't use your money as you hoped, they have failed, not Patreon.

Patreon is not a failure. This site and others like it are the real failures. I guess they are not failures because the intent was to steal content, so I guess they are nonfaliures.

Someone here said devs are scamming us with paywalls. Haha, what a hot load of horse shit. That's like a bulgar getting mad at homeowners who make it impossible to break into their house.:ROFLMAO:


Yeah, yeah, I know; delete for off-topic or for being honest? :sneaky:
 

Crosaith.

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Wow it's this game. Think I used to really like it, but it feels like it's been years since I've heard about it. Wonder if its as good as I remember...
 

MrBenny

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Well I just spent a few hours playing from the start up to chapter 10's release, so I could use the old walk through mod to see the right choices. But when I tried to load the saves using the older version with the new chapter 11 version, all my saves just crash and don't fucking load (and yes I know it's because the walk through mod is out of date, and using that mod corrupts the saves if you try to load them without the mod).

Though this title definitely needs a functioning walk through, because some of the choices can end in game over moments, and or totally missed love interest content.

But wow...so far 10 chapters into the story and there is still no vaginal sex, only a few hand jobs and blow jobs. And lesbian content, which I would prefer to have the choice to avoid it. And why would anyone want to date an active hooker, or want to hear about a love interest getting repeatedly fucked by her father...all while she is giving MC a hand job? :FacePalm:
 
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botc76

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Everytime the between updates I think, surely this time around that's it, no way is he gonna come back with new content after such a long time.
And then an update pops up. It's insane. I am amazed by perv2k16's dedication, but also wonder how with this level of dedication (to return to this game again and again), he doesn't just put in more of an effort to finish this thing.
 
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botc76

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Well I just spent a few hours playing from the start up to chapter 10's release, so I could use the old walk through mod for the right choices. But when I tried to load the saves with chapter 11 version, they just crash and don't fucking load (because the walk through mod is out of date).

And this title definitely needs a walk through as some of the choices can end in game over moments, or missed content. I guess with the way this title's walk through was created, the saves will only load if the wt mod has been updated. (sigh...I hate when that happens. Hence why I use URM and the Universal Choice Descriptor mod...using them doesn't break saves.)
You can download and extract the game. Make a copy of the game folder, insert the walkthrough patch into the copy, play until the end of chapter 10, then start the original game and load the last save you made in the copy, most of the time I find that works with patches that aren't up-to-date.
 

MrBenny

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You can download and extract the game. Make a copy of the game folder, insert the walkthrough patch into the copy, play until the end of chapter 10, then start the original game and load the last save you made in the copy, most of the time I find that works with patches that aren't up-to-date.
Hmm...odd thing trying to load the black screen ending of chapter 10 save, while using chapter 11 game version. The game doesn't load from the start of ch11, it said chapter 11 loaded message and then ended.

I guess I'll try that method you mentioned another time...I've had enough for now. (After spending time rewriting the gui file to remove the white textbox and menu items...I'll play another time.)

Thanks for the reply though.

Regards.
 
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