Unity Fap Nights at Frenni's Night Club [v0.2.8] [FATAL FIRE Studios]

[kratos476]

Ok that may have been me but just as a play of thought and not as a sound believe.
Since I've recently read about a person having lost their entire project code because the AI panicked.
Even tho the victim put several safe guards in place to keep that from happening.
Yet the AI completely side stepped all these instructions.
Even outright admitted it!
There wasn't even a way to roll back onto a previous state.
They lost everything!
Now I am not saying that is what also happened to FF, just pointing it out as a possibility that they might be trying to cover up that blunder.
It may not even be true in the slightest!

I do not have the funds currently to support anyone really.
So I can't follow their updates.
Instead I have to rely on this thread for anything.
I to understand it might not be entirely true but I have no other sources to go off of. *shrug*
As I have mentioned it was another post on here that mentioned these points.
I am not really in the mood to search these out but if you insist or can't do it yourself I might try to look myself again.

What you're saying might be true, and that could be the real answer instead of just saying "all programming is done with AI."

 

[Zane Carlson]

I never said that either!
Again, I was just giving a new perspective, nothing else.
It can be true or at least a possibility but it does not have to be the case.
Maybe they did put in the effort to write the code themselves and something with the none self made assets is horribly screwing up something that has them stumped for over a year now.
I am not in their inner circle so who am I to judge?
At the end of the day I know just as little as you and anyone else here, now do we?

But no I don't believe everything to be made by AI.........yet.#

 

[Zane Carlson]

Tbh they might not even needed to do AI pathing till later on as it's simple to make every girl go to certain locations at certain times and then add an RNG factor to when they move to any other room corresponding to that number.. just regular pathing.

Also they might have a zone shaped as a cone from their "eyes" to whatever distance...

For it to be AI pathing it would be like alien or the other fnaf game that has the AI start searching the locations more thoroughly were the player was last seen and possible outcomes to where they could have gone... even hiding spots or just stick around the hiding areas or sit around some places the player Regularly goes through like the halls or office.

*sigh* No......that is not what I am saying...
I mean code that determines their AI.
Like pre-2019 before the whole generative AI craze started!
Every game has that, how else would enemies move around in Video Games?
Some have set paths others may be coded a bit less simple but generally when talked about that stuff you say enemy AI.
Please do not confuse that...

Imagine the AI actually advance through the nights from night 1 frennie getting the most upgrades each night as she is the first
Then Chiku for night 2 and then bonnie for night 3? and also having more aggressive searches for the player and strict zones..

there is another zone were phone guys office is being under ground and having an elevator that leads down there but the player has to go through the vents.

So each animatronic might start to investigate the first floor till the next zone is unlocked (after night 2 or hard difficulty arcade)
having each animatronic start Patrolling their own zones and becoming more difficult.. especially fexa as ofc she has to be faster...

That is all story areas.
They are not gonna open those up outside the story.
At least I never heard anyone mention that but I don't see it as a possibility either.
Still their "behavior", as I will call it now instead of AI to avoid confusion, is copied from another game and since it was without permission from the one who made it, it was stolen.
Originally intended for a map 3 times of this one the enemies notice you far too easily which is a problem on such small space.
That's what I was saying.

Omg imagine they could go into the vents later on or add some animatronic to do that (unlikely to be Tangle as she isn't corrupted though could be a task to keep alive during the night for arcade to stop "him" or for story being a possible way to save her idk as the "guard" hasn't technically found her yet but might get saved later on by her or accidently find her while running from "him" and Chiku or some other while in the vents by the comic talking about something being in the vents "him")

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1. After his comment about her voice, which I would like to hear what that would've sound like supposedly, Idiot is not welcome there anymore and he doesn't really seem to care otherwise.
2. Since they didn't make the code for the other girls behavior they would need to take someone elses code or start coding such an enemy themselves.
But since going through the vents in the current state of arcade mode doesn't seem efficient or even helpful, as the further rooms don't even connect to the back vent system and are more intended for unlocking Bonfie, the cursed train and Type-0 endings, it would be another waste of their time and recourses even concepting such an enemy.
Completely redundant.
3. From that Rat comic that might be this games Springtrap variant.
Don't know too much about this one but seems like it emits some kind of gas.

 

[kratos476]

I never said that either!
Again, I was just giving a new perspective, nothing else.
It can be true or at least a possibility but it does not have to be the case.
Maybe they did put in the effort to write the code themselves and something with the none self made assets is horribly screwing up something that has them stumped for over a year now.
I am not in their inner circle so who am I to judge?
At the end of the day I know just as little as you and anyone else here, now do we?

But no I don't believe everything to be made by AI.........yet.#

Well, sorry, I didn't mean to impose my opinion or anything, I'm very sorry if you felt that way.

 

[Zane Carlson]

like they all say "it was rigged from the start" :3

 

[Zane Carlson]

Well, sorry, I didn't mean to impose my opinion or anything, I'm very sorry if you felt that way.

Just clearing anything up in case there were any misunderstandings.

 

[Zane Carlson]

Personally, I think the game will definitely be released this year, and if not, it wouldn't be such a big deal since they've shown a lot of commitment to their game, unlike "others." But anyway, for now, we shouldn't jump to conclusions until Chapter 3 is finally released.

"Commitment" is a strong word here.
Now personally for me they've done the bare minimum.
If FOBS can churn out 2 new pixel H-scenes every month so it stands to reason they could, theoretically, do a new scene every 2 months.
Granted one is a 2D pixel platformer and the other is a 3D free roamer so that might not correlate.
What Baruda said in their post seems to me the more plausible possibility.
Quick cash and bare minimum effort to keep at least the monkeys satisfied.
Also, they are Nights and not really chapters.

 

[Zane Carlson]

it's what I've been told but could be possible... As who wants a whining bunch in chat spamming that they are wasting their money... but ye it could be made up or be possible... as u would need to have seen a ban message by someone to whom banned said person either in chat or logs for public or staff... Not like someone didn't sneak in a bot to save all messages... well maybe...

Either you are alluding to something or you are sending some whacky signals my dude.
But it would be good to have someone active on the inside that could snoop around the place so we can have a better picture of things.

 

[Zane Carlson]

Calm down, everything will be alright. Getting worked up about it doesn't help at all. The only thing we can do is wait, and it's not the end of the world. You could look for other games to play in the meantime, or even do other activities in general. I say this with the best intentions, so calm down, everything will be fine.

That is exactly my policy!
There are other things to do while waiting or other goals to pursue.
In my case it would be completing other games I got my eyes set on or obtaining a long standing achievement.
Maybe even another game on here entirely!

 

[Zane Carlson]

Judging by the comments should i assume that this game is dead?

I'd advise cautious pessimism.

 

[kratos476]

"Commonitment" is a strong word here.
Now personally for me they've done the bare minimum.
If FOBS can churn out 2 new pixel H-scenes every month so it stands to reason they could, theoretically, do a new scene every 2 months.
Granted one is a 2D pixel platformer and the other is a 3D free roamer so that might not correlate.
What Baruda said in their post seems to me the more plausible possibility.
Quick cash and bare minimum effort to keep at least the monkeys satisfied.
Also, they are Nights and not really chapters.

Look, in my opinion, all this is about the fact that since they didn't release Chapter 3 last year and haven't fully communicated their progress, many people are starting to think they're conspiring against the developers. I'm sorry to disagree with you, but I do believe in the developers and that they'll release Chapter 3 as soon as possible. When it comes out, I think everyone will calm down.

 

[Zane Carlson]

Look, in my opinion, all this is about the fact that since they didn't release Chapter 3 last year and haven't fully communicated their progress, many people are starting to think they're conspiring against the developers. And I'm sorry to disagree with you, but I do believe in the developers and that they'll release Chapter 3 as soon as possible. When things get tough, I think they'll calm down.

Trust me, it was already dicey before the night 3 announcement.
That's all I say about the future of Night 3.
Also I just notice a HUGE blunder on one of my messages.
"Commonitment" my gawd!

 

[kratos476]

Trust me, it was already dicey before the night 3 announcement.
That's all I say about the future of Night 3.
Also I just notice a HUGE blunder on one of my messages.
"Commonitment" my gawd!

And I'll say it again, I disagree with you, but you were respectful to me and your position is equally valid. Regards.

 

[Zane Carlson]

You're not the first to say I let my "feelings" get the better of me, just to avoid being another one of those who say "this developer is a scammer and a bad person," like 90% of the people on this site in general. Unlike everyone here, I maintain that until proven otherwise, a developer is as innocent as anyone else here, and that's not being "sentimental," that's being objective: seeing the good and the bad in things, regardless of the circumstances. And that's the problem with several people on this site who outright hate almost all the developers and call them scammers without question. Are several of them scammers? Yes, of course they are. Are all developers bad because of a few scammers? I don't think so.

In that case you didn't do your research well since you didn't know about the stolen code or other damning things like the file wipes.
Otherwise I do agree with this stance but do try to be a bit more objective.
blind devotion never let to anything good.
I myself apply cautious optimism/pessimism or realism.
Another thing to consider in my opinion is "don't go in with expectations, you have fewer disappointments".
Anyone can learn something from that one.

 

[kratos476]

In that case you didn't do your research well since you didn't know about the stolen code or other damning things like the file wipes.
Otherwise I do agree with this stance but do try to be a bit more objective.
blind devotion never let to anything good.
I myself apply cautious optimism/pessimism or realism.
Another thing to consider in my opinion is "don't go in with expectations, you have fewer disappointments".
Anyone can learn something from that one.

If I got a coin every time someone called me "biased" or "naive," I'd be a millionaire, or at least on this site. And the "stolen code" thing is false until proven otherwise, and the "draft data" thing isn't anything out of the ordinary either. Anyway, I'm one of those who's going to wait until the full game comes out. You and I aren't going to get anywhere, so we'll leave it here for today. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Cheers.

 

[Zane Carlson]

That last one was about you in the first half and about anymore in the later half.

 

[Zane Carlson]

Maybe, and I don't deny that, but it's also true that the only time they didn't release "anything" was in 2024, because up until now they've been able to release the chapters. Chapter 1 came out in 2022, Chapter 2 in 2023, and only in 2024 did they release nothing. It's likely that when Chapter 3 comes out this year, many will start playing it right away.

Of course we will, naturally, but again; not the problem.
But my bet will be on "no release this year" for 50 bucks this time
(let's have a jab every once in a while)

 

[Zane Carlson]

Guys, help me find a game similar to FNAF where you have to sit in a security room and keep order. You can direct customers to the girls and fix all kinds of things with the help of a robot. I remember at the end of the boss fight, bombs start falling into the club hall and you have to defuse them with the robot. Thank you.

this game have name "In Heat: Lustful Nights" by MonsterBox, this game

No, that's not it. I remember there was a nightclub there.

No no, it is in fact that game.
It is just another mode.
There is Security Office and then there is Night Club.

 

[Zane Carlson]

eh? explain yourself

Alright so you saying you see the good and bad things and me saying you didn't do good research that was directed at you and being a bit more objective.
The parts about having no expectations and how I like to look through my own lens was more broadly for anyone to follow as an example.
Have no expectations as to having fewer disappointments and applying cautious optimism/pessimism/realism as the situation provides.

 

[kratos476]

Alright so you saying you see the good and bad things and me saying you didn't do good research that was directed at you and being a bit more objective.
The parts about having no expectations and how I like to look through my own lens was more broadly for anyone to follow as an example.
Have no expectations as to having fewer disappointments and applying cautious optimism/pessimism/realism as the situation provides.

I completely agree with your stance on "Have no expectations." That applies to everything in general; I also follow that philosophy, somewhat tempered by the idea of not hating all developers, or at least the most innocent ones. But otherwise, your position is completely true and valid.