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VN Ren'Py Far-Off Friends [v0.7] [FFCreations]

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i wasn't sure if i was going to download or not because of how FF finshed but reading the comments sounds like another beta mc that has no spine at all and lets people walk all over him giving a house away to people he barely knows that is spineless in my eyes. So thinking that is how the writer and dev want this story its not for me good luck to the writer and dev.
 

BarbarrossaNA

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After seeing this one going at 3 1/2 stars and being the initial offering of the game I almost passed.. I figured not so good reviews and little content. What a mistake that would have been! This one has great graphics.. stellar writing.. and a surprising amount of content. After reading pages of discussions I found that the DEV also has another game out that's on hold.. so I checked it out also.. and found out it was a game I had played in the past and liked.. so THEN I looked around to find out why it wasn't finished before starting another and found out the WRITER for it had been MIA for quite some time. I guess what I'm saying is.. don't believe everything you read.. if I had done that without doing some due diligence I wouldn't be sitting hear fat and happy as I write this.. An amazing start to what looks to be an amazing game. Nice work FFCreations.. I can't wait til the next update!

And that's the review I just posted for this.. well deserved. Great artist and a great writer.. I see this one going far. Good Luck!
 
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zandalari

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And if the father really cared, he would have made sure the MC knew everything he could about all his relatives, mom included. He also would have taught him how to make and run a successful company. And the MC would be in college now getting a helpful degree or skipping it altogether to start business of his own, not dicking around on a gap year. Hell, we could also accompany him on an exciting journey of picking out the right ETF fund to invest his millions in. Etc.

You can argue about optimal choices, but ultimately it is irrelevant. A lot of very popular movies, games and books are based on people who act a fool and it's completely fine. Consistency is what matters in storytelling. Set the tone, then keep it. The dad has been set up as someone who loved to teach a lesson or impart some sort of wisdom through his actions and the MC is someone who doesn't care about money, optimal choices or planning anything beyond a day or two out. As long as it all comes together in the end, the choices made are valid. And personally I don't give a fuck about what he does with his made up house, the choice to tear it up gives +3 to Melissa's score. Some posters here can jerk it as to how hardcore they'd be in that position, meanwhile I'm guiding him towards pussy.
 
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Vleder

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So... A game where we play an MC who is the landlord of the landlady, who at some point could be his mom, and he's getting close to a chic that could arguably be his sister, because she has the same surname, and she'll possibly be a tenant too. All that without a patch!
Cool.:cool:
 
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And personally I don't give a fuck about what he does with his made up house, the choice to tear it up gives +3 to Melissa's score. Some posters here can jerk it as to how hardcore they'd be in that position, meanwhile I'm guiding him towards pussy.
i laugh because you don't even know if your going to get that pussy but sure lets give her a house that is yours to begin with all for +3 score.
 

BeingADikDik

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Lots of comments with initial impressions in here. I'll add my $0.02 succinctly: the art and render quality here is substantially better than the writing. Ignoring proofreading errors and abstaining from making judgements concerning the plot, I thought that character dialogue, actions, and motivations were simply not believable. While I don't expect this to be an Oscar Wilde novel, the writing generally fails to immerse the reader/player.

My honest, brutal advice to the dev: get another writer (or have some faith and write it yourself!), plan to re-work this chapter with that new writer, then continue forward.
 

v1900

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i laugh because you don't even know if your going to get that pussy but sure lets give her a house that is yours to begin with all for +3 score.
OIP.jpg At this rate he'll be poor by next week in his never ending quest for pussy. She better not pull a FLF ending kind'a kick in the balls. You already gave her the house now she better give you some kids. :KEK:

I laughed out too mate, the whole premise is somewhat contrived, I mean how in the hell did the inept lawyer with a mayor in Creative Writing did not inform during the probate period to Melissa that the owner of the house had changed. Then this same inept lawyer failed to properly inform the MC about the situation. Seeing as non of the assets bequeathed to the MC are testamentary gifts but are part of the state distribution (have no strings attached), the lawyer can't be ambiguous with her answers.

If the MC had as some other users put it "more spine" and asked straight from the beginning from either the lawyer or Melissa it wouldn't have been like taking an RPG quest around town looking for useless stuff. I will admit that I ended up not minding too much about it because I like the crazy redhead.

If the dev reads this you should decide what the MC is like in terms of character and keep it consistent. At times he acts like a horny 13 year old ogling the math teacher and running away speechless but he had no trouble talking and bantering with Erika from the start.
 

BeingADikDik

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View attachment 1871367 At this rate he'll be poor by next week in his never ending quest for pussy. She better not pull a FLF ending kind'a kick in the balls. You already gave her the house now she better give you some kids. :KEK:

I laughed out too mate, the whole premise is somewhat contrived, I mean how in the hell did the inept lawyer with a mayor in Creative Writing did not inform during the probate period to Melissa that the owner of the house had changed. Then this same inept lawyer failed to properly inform the MC about the situation. Seeing as non of the assets bequeathed to the MC are testamentary gifts but are part of the state distribution (have no strings attached), the lawyer can't be ambiguous with her answers.

If the MC had as some other users put it "more spine" and asked straight from the beginning from either the lawyer or Melissa it wouldn't have been like taking an RPG quest around town looking for useless stuff. I will admit that I ended up not minding too much about it because I like the crazy redhead.

If the dev reads this you should decide what the MC is like in terms of character and keep it consistent. At times he acts like a horny 13 year old ogling the math teacher and running away speechless but he had no trouble talking and bantering with Erika from the start.
That's because Erika is not a believable character. She meets MC on the street as a complete stranger, has him sign her boob, then texts him lewd photos, all with a total interaction time of a few minutes. Then the porn logic really kicks into high gear. Like you said, crazy redhead I guess, but instantly devalues the narrative and makes me turn on the Skip Text option.
 

SecretSal

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Production value is clearly good, and not just with the main characters. The scene where he comes into town, there seems to be quite a lot of effort spent on the other people (rollerblade girl was a nice touch).

But I'm not really feeling the story. The character's alright, bit of a pushover, but I can understand playing it by ear when he first arrives at the house. Other parts get grating, though. The whole going speechless after meeting an attractive woman feels a bit forced. He'd just talked to Erika and even written his number on her boob without being too fazed, but suddenly goes gaga when Melissa opens the door? Even his descriptions when talking about women to others come across cringey.

IMO this is a bit of a meta problem with these games that can cause some player dissonance. Players who have gone through a few of these games at this point are already very familiar with these encounters, so every time the main character starts fawning over a woman's looks, or stammers when they something mildly risque, you can't help but think, "Dude, get over it already."

Ultimately, there's not a lot of meat in the story for me to dig in. Haven't been given a real reason to care about the father's history with Melissa, no real reason why hanging around in Radiant Valley seems like an interesting idea, and it just seems pretty aimless at this point. The mental recaps that the player does every once in a while just reinforce that. I can understand why all those things would be important to the character, but that doesn't mean they automatically matter to the player.

This is all personal opinion, though. Has no bearing on how others see the game, or how well it does. It's just that I've played too many games with similar setups for this to really stand out without bringing something new to the table.
 

ptahn

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I know. But I was simply asking you more specifically for the sake of curiosity. If you would see a list of tags. Which would entice you and which would you avoid.
Are you asking what content makes you the most money?
 
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v1900

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That's because Erika is not a believable character. She meets MC on the street as a complete stranger, has him sign her boob, then texts him lewd photos, all with a total interaction time of a few minutes. Then the porn logic really kicks into high gear. Like you said, crazy redhead I guess, but instantly devalues the narrative and makes me turn on the Skip Text option.
This whole VN is porn logic. :ROFLMAO:

You have the MC ready to go slay some pussy with a house and party ready but decides to go make the lawyers job for her by visiting the house. First he is the pussy whisperer getting the redhead then he is a 13 year old virgin when he meets Melissa, but reacts as if nothing happened when her daughter walks in topless. Then he turns into the 13 year old virgin in the library 5 minutes later into the pussy whisperer again meeting Erika. He then turns all serious thinking what will he become now that he has to take charge of his life after his dad's passing, turns around and becomes Oprah giving a third of his inheritance away.

It is far from the worse VN but it is all over the place. It is as if Teresa of Calcutta were a sex addict giving houses away.
 
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Vasy

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I noticed at least a couple of inconsistencies during my playthrough. My MC didn't talk to the blonde daughter at the college, yet an inner monologue suggested that he had, and he didn't ask Tits McGee if she was his mother, but again another inner monologue indicated otherwise. I feel like there was probably at least one more similar continuity error, but I can't remember it now.
 

Before I Forget

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If I had a dollar for every "This looks promising" I see on these threads... I still wouldn't have enough for a 3090.

The story looks and sounds generic, women wearing extra skimpy clothes, of course the player is going to look. Well see how this pans out, though I'm not optimistic after what happened with the last game.
 

riverrungames

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Read back, and was disappointed at how unnecessarily harsh the criticisms were here. Far-off Friends is decent for a first release. The renders are great, and the writing, while stiff, could easily be improved. Most of the vitriol in the thread was reserved for lamenting over Freeloading Family's (lack of) endings, as if developers can't try their hand at new projects with different writers.
 

v1900

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No. I was simply interested in what one isolated person would imagine dos and don'ts to be.

It's honestly a bit sad that I can't seem to ask my audience any questions without it relating back to me just doing it for money.
If I may, you actually had the content down to a T with your last VN up until the endings. That swinging stuff with the one LI who should had been your sweetheart and the heavy drama of the others was a kick in the balls. I mean, you guys went balls to the wall there at the ending with the drama and fucked up, just as you went balls to the wall here with our Über Saint MC. IF your intention is to actually keep the Über Saint make him more mature to make him more believable and likeable.

Other than that the kinks and tags from your last project were good (you know up until the swinger shit). I always appreciate the harem tag mainly because I get all content in one sitting.
 

FFCreations

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Read back, and was disappointed at how unnecessarily harsh the criticisms were here. Far-off Friends is decent for a first release. The renders are great, and the writing, while stiff, could easily be improved. Most of the vitriol in the thread was reserved for lamenting over Freeloading Family's (lack of) endings, as if developers can't try their hand at new projects with different writers.
This is exactly what I've been trying to avoid by explaining it in past comments. I completely understand if people are upset at the endings (or as you mentioned, lack of) for Freeloading Family and even at me. But I feel really bad for the writer for this game, because he is getting caught in the cross-fire despite having absolutely nothing to do with it.

If I may, you actually had the content down to a T with your last VN up until the endings. That swinging stuff with the one LI who should had been your sweetheart and the heavy drama of the others was a kick in the balls. I mean, you guys went balls to the wall there at the ending with the drama and fucked up, just as you went balls to the wall here with our Über Saint MC. IF your intention is to actually keep the Über Saint make him more mature to make him more believable and likeable.

Other than that the kinks and tags from your last project were good (you know up until the swinger shit). I always appreciate the harem tag mainly because I get all content in one sitting.
Thank you for the feedback.
 
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