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qazxsw80

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I remember the good old days, when only the 720p version was available in public access a day later (or on release day), and players on f95 could wait 1-2-3+ weeks for the Extra version. At least this scheme of game "distribution" is not as disastrous for the developer as what happens during the recent updates, when almost the day after the release someone leaks the Extra-version to the public domain.
To be honest, it was a long time ago when people here waited for a couple of weeks before the extra version was released. At least a couple of years ago.
And what's more important, back then there weren't so many of so important differences between versions. If my memory doesn't fail me, it wasn't even called "Extra". It was just the 1080p version. Back then it was just the resolution and maybe a couple of minor variations to the events. But now the 720p doesn't make much sense - the hottest stuff is cut out of it. Well, and now almost nobody has a monitor with the resolution of 720p. Fashion Business is probably the only popular game in development that uses such a resolution.
 
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watermankaku

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To be honest, it was a long time ago when people here waited for a couple of weeks before the extra version was released. At least a couple of years ago.
And what's more important, back then there weren't so many of so important differences between versions. If my memory doesn't fail me, it wasn't even called "Extra". It was just the 1080p version. Back then it was just the resolution and maybe a couple of minor variations to the events. But now the 720p doesn't make much sense - the hottest stuff is cut out of it. Well, and now almost nobody has a monitor with the resolution of 720p. Fashion Business is probably the only popular game in development that uses such a resolution.
720p has gradually become a trailer, hahaha.
 

wildride69

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$20 Patreons need to wait 5 more days before the EXTRA is available or am I misunderstanding the release timing?

Also is this just a minor update or is my current game borked. I see they added some Steve/Tiffany stuff and some Escort additions, plus some new content with Philip... but it seems to stop right their as far as new scenes...maybe my game is screwed up?? Is their no new content with BIFF, Melanie or the Shiny Hole (Claire)??

If Episode 4 is to be Monica's end my vote for a continuation is for Melanie or Claire......
 
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Ostego

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Я хотел как лучше
заметь я не агрюсь на слитый код. на мегу и прочее. ты своими дейсвиями побуждаешь людей перенести силы с разработки игры на выдумывание шагов против таких действий. есть неписанные правила игры в пиратсво. щас там от нагрузки сервак ляжет и привет перенос трудозатрат.
mind you, I don't agree to the merged code. on mega and so on. with your actions, you encourage people to shift their forces from developing a game to inventing steps against such actions. there are unwritten rules of the game of piracy. right now, the server will fall from the load there and hello, the transfer of labor costs.

and duplicate in english pls.
 
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Ostego

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игра только встала на рельсы сюжета которые от неё ждали несколько лет. прошлым летом я сам был в первых рядах чтобы похейтит её. но сейчас ненадо ломать раскручивающийся маятник.

the game just got on the rails of the plot that had been expected from it for several years. last summer, I myself was in the forefront to hate it. but now it is not necessary to break the unwinding pendulum.
 
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hubvan

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I haven't played the update myself , but feel those who haven't played the game can show a bit of patience and some benevolence to the developer , it's hard enough to develop a game which makes your living and harder to watch it getting shared instantly. Ultimately, it's the developer and the game that suffers and no one wants that. No one gets hurt by waiting a week or two.
I fully agree that it sucks to see your game instantly being shared after you released it but then again it shares the fate of basically any media which is released online (which doesn't make it necessarily better) but even more importantly 99% of the people who download it wouldn't pay for it anyway. And that 1% which would pay (which is a lot given the amount of downloads) might just be as well the 1% that supports decent monkey only because they know about him from f95zone in the first place. I feel like especially the larger game kind of benefit from this free advertisment whereas it's the small creators/ studio which have a really hard time getting their leg in the door (does the proverb go like this? :D)

Anyway, 20$ is simply too steep for a two monthly release schedule. Might be justified for a monthly schedule though. You pay 240$ for this a year. Imagine what you get for that money on steam with all the promos they do and shit. It's simply too expensive to spend so much money on a single game. Thats more like the money I would spend on porn in a whole year. If any.
 

Stan5851

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Я хотел как лучше
А получилось как всегда (В.С. Черномырдин)/ And it turned out as usual.

But it turned out as usual. And now even deleting the post will not help, your post has already been cited. And the developer does not read this thread very often. Just to understand - you all are waiting for the 4th episode and want to see the final of this wonderful game, but few of you think that this is still (if the 4th episode will be 16 updates) - 2 years of hard work creator and his team of assistants. Over the last year the number of subscribers decreased, the data varies, but it is from 15 to 20% Most people (if you do not take those brave patrons, which is a little over a thousand people) play for free, without thinking about anything. But if the number of subscribers continues to decline, we may be faced with a situation where the developer (DM) is faced with a dilemma of whether to keep making the game or not.

I, like all of you, really want to see the finale of this legendary game, but I'm afraid that what has already happened to other games might happen - the developer loses motivation/desire to create and the game turns into an abandoned project. Do you want to see Fashion Business - abandoned on f95 one day? I don't want that either, but I know that a leak like that almost on release day is maximally detrimental to any game developer. I gave my opinion, you may not agree with it - that's your right. But then do not say that you were not warned.
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Ostego

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I fully agree that it sucks to see your game instantly being shared after you released it but then again it shares the fate of basically any media which is released online (which doesn't make it necessarily better) but even more importantly 99% of the people who download it wouldn't pay for it anyway. And that 1% which would pay (which is a lot given the amount of downloads) might just be as well the 1% that supports decent monkey only because they know about him from f95zone in the first place. I feel like especially the larger game kind of benefit from this free advertisment whereas it's the small creators/ studio which have a really hard time getting their leg in the door (does the proverb go like this? :D)

Anyway, 20$ is simply too steep for a two monthly release schedule. Might be justified for a monthly schedule though. You pay 240$ for this a year. Imagine what you get for that money on steam with all the promos they do and shit. It's simply too expensive to spend so much money on a single game. Thats more like the money I would spend on porn in a whole year. If any.
you can pay only on update so it will be 120$
last updates take me 2-3 hours each. and i`m fast one, so it will be near 12-18 hours of gameplay per year. last AAA titles have lesser play time with cost moving to 100$ with dlc`s.
 

hubvan

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you can pay only on update so it will be 120$
last updates take me 2-3 hours each. and i`m fast one, so it will be near 12-18 hours of gameplay per year. last AAA titles have lesser play time with cost moving to 100$ with dlc`s.
yeah it's a fair point that you only have to pay on release dates but then again the idea of continuous patreon support is kind of tarnished... I also played all the updates and honestly 12-18 hours seems extremly high, but maybe that's because I skip through a lot of stuff which is predictable and not interesting for me. Personally I consider 60-80% of the updates usually to be quite reduntant and replacable due to many paths I don't really like or are boring, so in essence every update boils down to one (or maximum two) exciting scene. I think this applies to the majority of the players and should also be taken into account.

Maybe I'll throw him 20 bucks at the end of this episode and then another at the end of episode 4 which would be kinda fair.
 
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