Ren'Py Fashion Business [Ep.4 v7.01 Extra] [DecentMonkey]

[Stan5851]

But Monica's change towards sexuality is evident to all, she was completely frigid and now she cums 4 times when having sex with a big dicks

Monica has never been frigid. Asexuality ≠ frigidity. Obviously, you should familiarise yourself with the definitions of these concepts. Monica has had orgasms before (the most famous example being her sex with Steve in the pool of her mansion) in episode 2. Monica has been aroused before, but has tried to interrupt sexual interactions for various reasons (this has been discussed many times). So don't attribute frigidity to Monica, she never had it.

 

[agn25]

The fact that she think about herself as the most beautiful and smart woman will never change... this is part of the characters
Monica, on the other hand, has changed a lot in her sexuality and in her approach to sex
now she starts to accept and have sex with dirty strangers without opposing too much anymore (she keeps thinking it's disgusting but this is normal)
and nevertheless she sucks and fucks stinking cocks this she stays strong and full of herself.

now she had 4 orgasm in 1 single go...
And don't forget that now Monica is also Laura: Buckfett's double.
Laura (aka Monica) told to Mrs White that she likes to participate in photoshoots where she gets fucked (and also video shots because there is already a video shot of the photoshot with Ryan and Mrs White)

of course not..
I agree with you about that Monica will continue to think that she is the best woman in the world...
this will never change
No 180 degree swing for the hr personality but for sure she already changed more than that in the sexual skill side.
But Monica's change towards sexuality is evident to all, she was completely frigid and now she cums 4 times when having sex with a big dicks

This is the change that I'm talking about Even the dumbest women with practice get better at having sex (but stupid girls remain stupid)

She now knows what it's like to feel pleasure having sex and DM with the move of making others think that Laura is a "Not Monica" will surely go down hard on our Monica's discovery of the pleasure of sex.
She will remain the same presumptuous convinced that she she is the best in the world at having sex and fucking this for now will be "Laura only" feature.

After 3 episodes and more than 4 years this game is becoming very interesting

Yes Monica has become used to having sex and selling her body. She is now prepared to do sexual acts that at the beginning of the game she probably didn't know existed. This just represents her increasing desperation not some sexual awakening. Her attitude and thoughts about anything sexual has not changed. All that's happened is she has normalised using and selling her body to reach her goals. So in normalising sex she doesn't think twice about some acts now. The Laura (Monica double) name is just another alias Monica uses to hide her identity. I don't see how it's use is any different from her other aliases.

Again I'm not suggesting Monica is not going to in her own way enjoy some of the sexual acts and increasingly orgasm from sex in her future. What I don't see happening is her beginning to think about sex in her spare time, looking longingly at some male or females arse as they walk by her or looking forward to getting another character into bed.

I see her staying asexual with the odd character fucking her brains out. Anyway I guess we can agree to disagree on this issue.

 

[defd©™]

And please don't ask me to read any post from Defd. I would rather hit my head against a brick wall.

who asked you that? .. I'm Not Defd... I'm defd©™ the only one with copyrights and trademark!

The Laura (Monica double) name is just another alias Monica uses to hide her identity. I don't see how it's use is any different from her other aliases.

Are you sure that Laura is "just another alias"?
Laura was hired by Mrs White to participate in a gangbang with three cocks and she will be photographed and (maybe) filmed by Rayan (Monica will wear the mask) ... so there will be at least 4 men ...... but maybe Mrs White will invite investors to the fuck fest.
And don't forget that Laura stated that she likes to participate in these kinds of "lewd photo sessions" so she'll have to at least pretend to feel pleasure to keep mrs. White from realizing that she's actually Monica and not Laura...
of course Laura will be masked but Mrs White know her without mask.

 

[TonyJake]

Hi fellows, can someone tell me how to get action started with Ralph? I am at a position where Monica is staying in house without panties but I cannot initiate a talk with Ralph, whenever I approach him, he asks if She needs anything and Monica says no sir. Please help.

 

[isabellapink]

Monica has never been frigid. Asexuality ≠ frigidity. Obviously, you should familiarise yourself with the definitions of these concepts.

Well, if you knew the difference between asexuality and frigidity, you would first know that asexuals don't define themselves as man, woman, boy or girl because they have no sex. Monica is quite the opposite for sure she is a straight female, she declares herself not to be a lesbian but she thinks to be the most beautiful woman in the world and she knows that all men drool for her, Monica likes to be at the center of sexual desire but she likes also to be in charge and is a bitch from the start. Bitch in this case means she likes to sexually humiliate all men (like Dick the lawyer or the black neighbour when he damages the gate)
Frigid for me is the same as Cold... and Monica is a frigid = cold = bitch

I see her staying asexual with the odd character fucking her brains out. Anyway I guess we can agree to disagree on this issue.

I don't know where you have seen the Monica asexuality.. the difference between frigid and asexual is very border line. "A frigid person feels attraction but fails to have satisfying intercourse due to psychic or physical ailments. Asexuals practically do not have sex: not for religious reasons or because of physical and mental problems, but because because sex does not exist for them or sex does not give them pleasure. Forever!
This doesn't fit with Monica because she had rarely orgasms before but now she has 4 orgasm in one go con Fred. This is for sure something else
It is not asexual, she is heterosexual and for sure she is not lesbian. For me she is just a beautiful "frigid bitch"
frigid = cold = merciless = bitch

Monica seems to be the typical spoiled and "rich upper-class bitch" who in the mind of ordinary people she deserves sexual punishment and humiliation so that the lesson helps her understand that she has to become an obedient good girl

Monica at the beginning when she was the real boss of her magazine who accepted expensive gifts from men but without misses the opportunity to treat them as inferior beings by sexually humiliating them in an extreme way. She is the perfect bitch even during the audition she gives to the aspiring models girls this denotes the fact that she is not asexuated because she makes them undress for just sexually humiliates them.
Of course we can agree or not about this.
Ok there are choices to avoid sexual humiliation but you need "bitchness points"
Monica is an heterosexual woman that think to be the best in everything including sex.
When she gets fucked she begins to realize that everyone wants to ravage her cunt or her asshole (the best asshole in the world) just because she is the best in everything.

She has the most beautiful face, the most beautiful body, the most beautiful legs, the most beautiful pussy the most beautiful breasts and the best asshole
These are not the thoughts of an asexual person.
Asexuals are shy and have no self-esteem, have serious problems and would never try to impose themselves on others like Monica does; Monica is quite the opposite

Monica is money addicted and now she is a WHORE who is having sex with all the men in town for money but she does all this because she is preparing her revenge, and one day her revenge will come for sure (maybe in EP5?)

So Monica will never be able to look like Anna (exciting affections)
- Anna has sex with everyone because she loves to fuck and be filled with cum.
- Monica has sex with everyone because she is a cold (frigid) business woman who loves luxury and money and just for that she accepts to be filled in cum like the town cum-bucket. She will have her luxurious life back (or at least this is the reason that pushes her to accept every humiliation)
hope I have well explained to all of you what I mean when I say that Monica is a frigid bitch

 

[defd©™]

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Whats the requirment for this upper line, im playing 1080p v.10? I did try cganhing bitchness to max it doesnt work and corruption full with slutnes on 100. Is this somekind version block line??

Found my answer from the thread. So for anyone else who might ask the same, at Ryans photoshoot you need to take keep silent option for both answers.

That was my question too.... the important think is "keep silent"
you have to back at the start of v9
https://f95zone.to/threads/fashion-business-ep-3-v10-decentmonkey.11501/post-7808989

From now on I decided to make Monica "keep silent" everywhere

 

[berny]

I agree, Monica isn't asexual. And I'm even more certain she was never meant to be asexual. And to be honest I believe you are all reading too much into it.

Fashion Business is simply different than other Female PC games because it is more about humiliation and blackmail rather than "classic" corruption. After all, how can it be humiliation if every person involved enjoys it?

And I agree with isabellapink . Monica's main focus right now is to get her old life back (money, power etc.), regardless if she actually succeeds in the end or not. This is why I'm personally kind of disappointed that there's so little of that in the story. All she does should somehow serve that purpose, or better said, Monica should believe it is helping her get her life back. Currently there is too little development in that area. It's time we see some serious plotting from Monica.

 

[vimmers]

Hi fellows, can someone tell me how to get action started with Ralph? I am at a position where Monica is staying in house without panties but I cannot initiate a talk with Ralph, whenever I approach him, he asks if She needs anything and Monica says no sir. Please help.

not sure which version you play
with or without bardie ???
if with
you need to wear panties when you clean
1. julias panties
2. bettys panties
3. no panties

 

[vimmers]

I have this problem in PC and laptop....
Even in ep3 ....

i suggested this to another member

not sure about it works but you could try to
take an win32 exe from another game
or maybe try compatibility for the win64.exe

 

[TonyJake]

not sure which version you play
with or without bardie ???
if with
you need to wear panties when you clean
1. julias panties
2. bettys panties
3. no panties

I am using v16. In walkthrough it says, Monika will think about seducing Ralph while cleaning but that is not happening for me.

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[defd©™]

I agree, Monica isn't asexual. And I'm even more certain she was never meant to be asexual. And to be honest I believe you are all reading too much into it.

Fashion Business is simple different than other Female PC games because it is more about humiliation and blackmail rather than "classic" corruption. After all, how can it be humiliation if every person involved enjoys it?

And I agree with isabellapink . Monica's main focus right now is to get her old life back (money, power etc.), regardless if she actually succeeds at the end or not. This is why I'm personally kind of disappointed that there's so little of that in the story. All she does should somehow serve that purpose, or better said, Monica should believe it is helping her get her life back. Currently there is basically no development in that regard. It's time we see some serious plotting from Monica.

in the real world of fashion super models have to be politically correct .. that's why Monica can seem asexual. Fashon Magazines are dedicated to the women and it's impossible that a married woman will buy a fashion magazine with explicit porn poses
and in the future our Monica may realize that the life she used to do before will never come back im the same way. Top models like Melanie for example are very reserved because they know their career ends if they start doing porn shots or movie
Now also Melanie has to accept umiliation to avoid to loose everything ... nudity is ok but porn isn't ... that doesn't mean supermodels are asexual, this means they are very careful about their public image.

the Monica's Fashon Magazine was very traditional at the start in any case, now finally, after so many years of stupid side stories, (Betty, Bardie, Julia, etc.) have gone. Fashion Business seems to have found the right evolution.

No more side stories should be perfect
I want to stay focused in the beautiful Monica Buckfett and I totally agree with isabellapink

 

[Stan5851]

Well, if you knew the difference between asexuality and frigidity, you would first know that asexuals don't define themselves as man, woman, boy or girl because they have no sex.

Asexuality is the lack of sexual attraction to others, or low or absent interest in or desire for sexual activity. This term is as fitting as can be for the way Monica behaves in relation to sex throughout the 3 episodes.

..asexuals don't define themselves as man, woman, boy or girl because they have no sex.

There is still no scientific consensus on this. There is significant debate over whether or not asexuality is a sexual orientation. (wiki)

Asexuality is generally not considered a disorder or a sexual dysfunction (such as anorgasmia, anhedonia, etc.), because it does not necessarily define someone as having a medical problem or problems relating to others socially. (wiki)

One criterion usually taken to be defining of a sexual orientation is that it is stable over time. In a 2016 analysis in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, Brotto et al. found "only weak support" for this criterion being met among asexual individuals. (wiki)

Frigid for me is the same as Cold... and Monica is a frigid = cold = bitch

Frigidity, in psychology, the inability of a woman to attain orgasm during sexual intercourse.
So..It's definitely not our Monica. You can interpret the term "Frigidity" as you like, but it still doesn't make Monica frigid.

 

[evilkitty97]

I cant seem to go to gym with Betty? Or get Bardi to show her panties. Why am I stuck? My corruption is at 40 from all the Kebab flyers quest. What am I missing?

 

[Stan5851]

I cant seem to go to gym with Betty? Or get Bardi to show her panties. Why am I stuck? My corruption is at 40 from all the Kebab flyers quest. What am I missing?

Monica needs to clean the house every day until Betty's level is 3. By cleaning the house, Monica not only increases her level of corruption but also increases Betty's level. Once Betty's level reaches 3 and she calls Monica with her for fitness, cleaning the house once a week is enough. As for the walkthrough in general (especially the Bardie storyline), I recommend reading the walkthrough ("The plot with Bardi" section), the link to which you can find here:FAQ. (point 1.3.1)

 

[evilkitty97]

Monica needs to clean the house every day until Betty's level is 3. By cleaning the house, Monica not only increases her level of corruption but also increases Betty's level. Once Betty's level reaches 3 and she calls Monica with her for fitness, cleaning the house once a week is enough. As for the walkthrough in general (especially the Bardie storyline), I recommend reading the walkthrough ("The plot with Bardi" section), the link to which you can find here:FAQ. (point 1.3.1)

Im stuck at level 2. Cant progress. Is it because I havent done enough of other quests?

 

[Stan5851]

Im stuck at level 2. Cant progress. Is it because I havent done enough of other quests?

I quoted the game developer's answer, which is available here.

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This is DM`s answer to the question of how to reach level 3 with Betty. So, based on that, there are no additional conditions to reach this level.

Try also to read this section of the official walkthrough of the game.

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There's no Bardie story in this walkthrough (you already know where you can see his walkthrough), but there is a step-by-step list of actions to advance in Betty's story.

 

[agn25]

Well, if you knew the difference between asexuality and frigidity, you would first know that asexuals don't define themselves as man, woman, boy or girl because they have no sex. Monica is quite the opposite for sure she is a straight female, she declares herself not to be a lesbian but she thinks to be the most beautiful woman in the world and she knows that all men drool for her, Monica likes to be at the center of sexual desire but she likes also to be in charge and is a bitch from the start. Bitch in this case means she likes to sexually humiliate all men (like Dick the lawyer or the black neighbour when he damages the gate)
Frigid for me is the same as Cold... and Monica is a frigid = cold = bitch


I don't know where you have seen the Monica asexuality.. the difference between frigid and asexual is very border line. "A frigid person feels attraction but fails to have satisfying intercourse due to psychic or physical ailments. Asexuals practically do not have sex: not for religious reasons or because of physical and mental problems, but because because sex does not exist for them or sex does not give them pleasure. Forever!
This doesn't fit with Monica because she had rarely orgasms before but now she has 4 orgasm in one go con Fred. This is for sure something else
It is not asexual, she is heterosexual and for sure she is not lesbian. For me she is just a beautiful "frigid bitch"
frigid = cold = merciless = bitch

Monica seems to be the typical spoiled and "rich upper-class bitch" who in the mind of ordinary people she deserves sexual punishment and humiliation so that the lesson helps her understand that she has to become an obedient good girl

Monica at the beginning when she was the real boss of her magazine who accepted expensive gifts from men but without misses the opportunity to treat them as inferior beings by sexually humiliating them in an extreme way. She is the perfect bitch even during the audition she gives to the aspiring models girls this denotes the fact that she is not asexuated because she makes them undress for just sexually humiliates them.
Of course we can agree or not about this.
Ok there are choices to avoid sexual humiliation but you need "bitchness points"
Monica is an heterosexual woman that think to be the best in everything including sex.
When she gets fucked she begins to realize that everyone wants to ravage her cunt or her asshole (the best asshole in the world) just because she is the best in everything.

She has the most beautiful face, the most beautiful body, the most beautiful legs, the most beautiful pussy the most beautiful breasts and the best asshole
These are not the thoughts of an asexual person.
Asexuals are shy and have no self-esteem, have serious problems and would never try to impose themselves on others like Monica does; Monica is quite the opposite

Monica is money addicted and now she is a WHORE who is having sex with all the men in town for money but she does all this because she is preparing her revenge, and one day her revenge will come for sure (maybe in EP5?)

So Monica will never be able to look like Anna (exciting affections)
- Anna has sex with everyone because she loves to fuck and be filled with cum.
- Monica has sex with everyone because she is a cold (frigid) business woman who loves luxury and money and just for that she accepts to be filled in cum like the town cum-bucket. She will have her luxurious life back (or at least this is the reason that pushes her to accept every humiliation)
hope I have well explained to all of you what I mean when I say that Monica is a frigid bitch

Okay I'm going to be that guy now that will quote the definition of asexual.
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Definition of asexual

1: lacking sex or functional sex organs asexual plants
2a: involving or reproducing by reproductive processes (such as cell division, spore formation, fission (see

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), or budding (see

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)) that do not involve the union of individuals or

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asexual reproductionan asexual generation
b: produced by asexual reproductionasexual spores
3a: not involving, involved with, or relating to sex : devoid of

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an asexual relationship
b: not having sexual feelings toward others : not experiencing sexual desire or attraction. In general, an asexual person does not feel or otherwise experience any sexual attraction, according to The Asexual Visibility & Education Network (AVEN). Basically, it is an inborn absence of sexual desire.— Lindsay E. Mack
4: not having or showing a particular sexual identity : neither male nor female… parents who first encounter the world of Pokemon through their youngsters may have no idea what this land of soft, rounded, asexual creatures is or what drives it.

Points 1 and 2 clearly don't apply at all to our discussion. Point 3a again not really what we are talking about. Point 3b however describes Monica's character very accurately. Point 4 again not relevant, Monica sees herself as female.

Going by the definition in point 3b and especially the last sentence, I think it's fair to call Monica asexual.

Also note this quote from the same page:
"Many asexuals still have romantic attractions—identifying themselves as straight, gay or bisexual romantic—form committed relationships and value all the non-sexual benefits of a partnership that sexual individuals enjoy. Minus the sex."— Lori A. Brotto

I think it's quite clear that Monica's character has totally been asexual up until now.

 

[DragonEater]

TBH I'm tired of this game. It's a great game but every single time after a new update you have to play it from begining if you don't want to miss a lot of cool contains or face with bugs. I'm not gonna play it until a good big chunk of that FARM become available in game.

 

[vimmers]

Im stuck at level 2. Cant progress. Is it because I havent done enough of other quests?

if you have installed the gallery mod then it bugs your game

 

[ramiurga]

TBH I'm tired of this game. It's a great game but every single time after a new update you have to play it from begining if you don't want to miss a lot of cool contains or face with bugs. I'm not gonna play it until a good big chunk of that FARM become available in game.

That is certainly not my experience, you certainly don't have to play from the beginning every new update. What cool content do you miss by just continue to play each update? I have yet to encounter any bugs of significance (only spelling and such), the quality of this game is very high!