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My theory for a "happy" ending:

-Monica makes Biff, Fred, and Steve (and the whole bunch of evil dudes) live in the slums without documents.
-Destroying the farm with a nuke or using the international police to seize it.
-Marring Marcus and living happily after or also making him live in slums?

I also suspect that those behind the kidnappings of famous women are Supreme Court Judges - If my suspicions are true, I don't have any idea how Monica will handle it.
The only "happy" ending for me would be Monica takes control of the farm and goes international by establishing a "franchise", if you will, in every country that there is (like McDonalds, but less evil). :devilish:
 

hzjujk

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My theory for a "happy" ending:

-Monica makes Biff, Fred, and Steve (and the whole bunch of evil dudes) live in the slums without documents.
-Destroying the farm with a nuke or using the international police to seize it.
-Marring Marcus and living happily after or also making him live in slums?

I also suspect that those behind the kidnappings of famous women are Supreme Court Judges - If my suspicions are true, I don't have any idea how Monica will handle it.
Does Monica really deserve a good ending? Has she really changed? At the time when I was still playing the game she was and remained - a conceited, not particularly smart or educated, frigid woman who believed she deserved a good life. Monica despised all other people around her and, when the situation required it, abused and betrayed her. Has she really changed, from a stupid bitch to at least a smart and intelligent bitch? From the comments I've read here over the last few years, it doesn't seem to have really changed. Just because the other characters in this game are even bigger assholes doesn't mean Monica deserves a believable "good" ending.
 

Alea iacta est

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Does Monica really deserve a good ending? Has she really changed? At the time when I was still playing the game she was and remained - a conceited, not particularly smart or educated, frigid woman who believed she deserved a good life. Monica despised all other people around her and, when the situation required it, abused and betrayed her. Has she really changed, from a stupid bitch to at least a smart and intelligent bitch? From the comments I've read here over the last few years, it doesn't seem to have really changed. Just because the other characters in this game are even bigger assholes doesn't mean Monica deserves a believable "good" ending.
She does not deserve it... on the other hand, she worked her ass a lot for getting back her deserved life.. so.. it is 50-50... All this ass work should rewarded in somehow.. at least in the Western Hollywood culture where the happy ending is a must have.
 

jackdanniels

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Does Monica really deserve a good ending? Has she really changed? At the time when I was still playing the game she was and remained - a conceited, not particularly smart or educated, frigid woman who believed she deserved a good life. Monica despised all other people around her and, when the situation required it, abused and betrayed her. Has she really changed, from a stupid bitch to at least a smart and intelligent bitch? From the comments I've read here over the last few years, it doesn't seem to have really changed. Just because the other characters in this game are even bigger assholes doesn't mean Monica deserves a believable "good" ending.
As bitch and evil as she is, she didn't commit any crime to have a famous and luxurious life that has been completely taken away criminally, no matter how brainless or bad she is, she is the victim of a criminal cartel that aim rich selfish bitches like Monica.
 

Jeff1984

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Does Monica really deserve a good ending? Has she really changed? At the time when I was still playing the game she was and remained - a conceited, not particularly smart or educated, frigid woman who believed she deserved a good life. Monica despised all other people around her and, when the situation required it, abused and betrayed her. Has she really changed, from a stupid bitch to at least a smart and intelligent bitch? From the comments I've read here over the last few years, it doesn't seem to have really changed. Just because the other characters in this game are even bigger assholes doesn't mean Monica deserves a believable
I don’t understand the need for some people to give Monica a “happy” ending, which literally goes against everything the game proposes within its premise and story (a game that, by the way, is one of the few that has done something different in the “female protagonist” genre). The least one expects in the ending is for Monica to fall even lower than she already is, like the end of the prostitutes on the street, those are the true endings. Many people get an idea of revenge as if Monica was good, when in the past she was the same as the guys who torture her now and if it were up to her she would be the same again, because in her mind nothing has changed. The true happy endings will be where Monica has at least three cocks in her ass and has to accept it.
 

wildride69

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I don’t understand the need for some people to give Monica a “happy” ending, which literally goes against everything the game proposes within its premise and story (a game that, by the way, is one of the few that has done something different in the “female protagonist” genre). The least one expects in the ending is for Monica to fall even lower than she already is, like the end of the prostitutes on the street, those are the true endings. Many people get an idea of revenge as if Monica was good, when in the past she was the same as the guys who torture her now and if it were up to her she would be the same again, because in her mind nothing has changed. The true happy endings will be where Monica has at least three cocks in her ass and has to accept it.
Is it possible to fall lower than she is... The writers never wrote her to learn anything from her ordeal and I blame that on bad writing. Some of us aren't total sadists that want only an evil end. After all these years of playing this VN and following Monic'a journey it would be good to give her at least one decent ending. It's not like Monica is surrounded by kind and decent people, she is surrounded by scum and is still surviving despite the odds stacked against her.

There will be a bad ending 100%, but don't get upset at those of us that want a better ending for our Monica.
 

hzjujk

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It's easy to hold a grudge against Monica.
But I also blame that on bad writing.
How could her traumatic visits to the prison haven't changed her behavior?
It's not a grudge, it's just that Monica's character contradicts a happy ending.
In that respect, they're right, it's just poor storytelling.
Also, I always had the impression that the main focus of this game was the humiliation of women, that has never changed, and in that respect, a happy ending for Monica and the other women would contradict that focus.
 

jackdanniels

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It's not a grudge, it's just that Monica's character contradicts a happy ending.
In that respect, they're right, it's just poor storytelling.
Also, I always had the impression that the main focus of this game was the humiliation of women, that has never changed, and in that respect, a happy ending for Monica and the other women would contradict that focus.
Like Alea iacta est said:
She does not deserve it... on the other hand, she worked her ass a lot for getting back her deserved life.. so.. it is 50-50... All this ass work should rewarded in somehow.. at least in the Western Hollywood culture where the happy ending is a must have.

I vote for a happy ending :geek:
 

wildride69

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It's easy to hold a grudge against Monica.
But I also blame that on bad writing.
How could her traumatic visits to the prison haven't changed her behavior?
Exactly how a visit that traumatic in Prison along with everything else she has been through not change her attitude at all. It makes no sense and it is bad writing. Anyone that would continue with the same attitude along the same path would be the dumbest person on earth and not a successful smart businesswoman Monica is portrayed as.

I actually have more of a grudge against the idiotic writing than Monica.
 

hzjujk

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Like Alea iacta est said:
She does not deserve it... on the other hand, she worked her ass a lot for getting back her deserved life.. so.. it is 50-50... All this ass work should rewarded in somehow.. at least in the Western Hollywood culture where the happy ending is a must have.

I vote for a happy ending :geek:
Shrug! I think I explained why a "good" ending for Monica would contradict the character of the game.
Of course it's also a good ending if the stupid bitch ends up back where the game started. :)
 

Stan5851

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I don’t understand the need for some people to give Monica a “happy” ending, which literally goes against everything the game proposes within its premise and story (a game that, by the way, is one of the few that has done something different in the “female protagonist” genre). The least one expects in the ending is for Monica to fall even lower than she already is, like the end of the prostitutes on the street, those are the true endings. Many people get an idea of revenge as if Monica was good, when in the past she was the same as the guys who torture her now and if it were up to her she would be the same again, because in her mind nothing has changed. The true happy endings will be where Monica has at least three cocks in her ass and has to accept it.
I'm already tired of responding to posts like this, it's all been discussed hundreds of pages ago. As for frigidity, you're wrong here too,
Monica has never been frigid. Asexuality ≠ frigidity. Obviously, you should familiarise yourself with the definitions of these concepts. Monica has had orgasms before (the most famous example being her sex with Steve in the pool of her mansion) in episode 2. Monica has been aroused before, but has tried to interrupt sexual interactions for various reasons (this has been discussed many times). So don't attribute frigidity to Monica, she never had it.
Frigidity is the inability to have orgasms from sex. Monica has had quite a lot orgasms throughout the game, so she is
definitely not frigid.. The term "asexuality" is more appropriate for her, meaning that she does not feel sexually attracted to the people around her. Also, I want to remind you that this game is not about happy slut, you can read about that in the FAQ.
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So if you are interested in games where the heroine is addicted to sex, then you should look for another game.
Monica has never been frigid, and as of the current 4th episode (especially on the ‘Home’ path): no player would ever think of calling her even just asexual (on this particular sub-route). And I'm crossing my fingers that this is all limited to the failed ‘Home’ and that these ‘happy slut’ metastases don't infect the rest of the routes, thereby killing the uniqueness of the game, which has always favoured FB from the legion of "happy slut simulators".
 

Stan5851

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Exactly how a visit that traumatic in Prison along with everything else she has been through not change her attitude at all. It makes no sense and it is bad writing. Anyone that would continue with the same attitude along the same path would be the dumbest person on earth and not a successful smart businesswoman Monica is portrayed as.

I actually have more of a grudge against the idiotic writing than Monica.
Yes, we need to ask Decent Monkey questions about this..Monica definitely had to change over the years, going through a series of tough trials, but DM did almost nothing to make that happen...

That's why I'm pushing so hard the idea of Monica's redemption (you've probably read these posts), where she could have a happy ending, getting rid of her flaws, her contempt for the common people and becoming a bit better (in that respect). At least such a happy ending would have made a lot more sense than just giving her everything back at the snap of her fingers.
 
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That's why I'm pushing so hard the idea of Monica's redemption (you've probably read these posts), where she could have a happy ending, getting rid of her flaws, her contempt for the common people and becoming a bit better (in that respect).
Wait a second, contempt for the common (i.e. stupid) people is a flaw? I say, it's a feature! Especially if you happen to look like Monica. It's her god-given, inalianable right to look down the filthy peasants who wash her car, clean her house and change her sheets. Sure, she might've lost a lot of things, but she's still better than all of those hillbilly inbreed trailer-trash people that surround her. She's right to detest those creatures. Ultra-bitch Monica is the best Monica.
 

Stan5851

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Wait a second, contempt for the common (i.e. stupid) people is a flaw? I say, it's a feature! Especially if you happen to look like Monica. It's her god-given, inalianable right to look down the filthy peasants who wash her car, clean her house and change her sheets. Sure, she might've lost a lot of things, but she's still better than all of those hillbilly inbreed trailer-trash people that surround her. She's right to detest those creatures. Ultra-bitch Monica is the best Monica.
Ofc, her bitchiness is an element of her charm, and I'm not suggesting that it be completely abandoned, but still, a good ending would be worthy of a more perfect Monica than she is now. That is, ideally I see Monica remaining ironclad and unyielding, but being able to become a little more tolerant of those people who deserve it).

The problem, though, is that this absurd world created by DM is 95% made up of scum who don't deserve to be treated so well...

If you break it down, the only objectively good characters (of any significance to the FB plot) are Claire (a teacher and part-time dancer at Shiny Hole) and Monica's secretary. The rest of them, one way or another, want to use Monica for their own purposes. So it's complicated.
 
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