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sappho

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Aug 31, 2017
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Yeah please don't defend this matter-of-fact like it's all fine.

Granted, this game is one of the ones doing this Patreon scam thing better to the point where I still do not classify this game one way or the other, and unlike for all the other games, I'm not even sure I want this game to finish, even though there's plenty of great ways they could do a sequel I could think of off the top of my head.

But understand that this current state of affairs ruined the entire thing. No games get released because those people with equally correct opinions incentivized no games getting released. When did SU start? 2016! 2016!!! It's not done, it barely updates, it makes 250k+ a year.

All the games end with the banner talking about the next version.

This has become one gigantic shitshow, that is also wealthy-levels of lucrative for some of these projects.

And that would be bad enough if all things were equal but now the games themselves have changed to to exploit this. So this is not a case of "your opinion isn't any better and" on and on. No, the thing sucks. Presently, the thing sucks. Acknowledge that it sucks.
You're pointing out some legitimate issues with a sytem as if that invalidates the entire system. It does not. If you think SU is a waste of money don't give them money. I don't. You don't get to argue everyone is wrong because some people think SU IS worth the money. Your opinion does not invalidate theirs.

I don't care enough about your opinion to respond more than this.
 

3nterprise

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Jan 20, 2019
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You're pointing out some legitimate issues with a sytem as if that invalidates the entire system. It does not. If you think SU is a waste of money don't give them money. I don't. You don't get to argue everyone is wrong because some people think SU IS worth the money. Your opinion does not invalidate theirs.

I don't care enough about your opinion to respond more than this.
it's about shit, because I only have one purchase model and it's shit. I want to buy the final product and not contribute to the production.
 

EraRamp

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Aug 26, 2019
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I offered to translate the game from English to gibberish so I could get on the front page, too, but I think DM didn't take me up on it because my offer was written in gibberish.
It simply cannot be, because any language is good for translation. Even a little known one. Apparently there was another reason
 

EraRamp

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Aug 26, 2019
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And immediately the answer is that the DM will not add dialects. He is interested in languages. Full-fledged languages that people speak and read
 

jctn9

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Jan 5, 2019
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Your subjective opinion does not create objective reality.

Since the advent of Patreon, the number of adult games being made has increased.. what, 10-fold? 20-fold? A huge increase in number in any case. Do the overwhelming majority never get completed? Yes. Probably a slight increase in percentage over the overwhelming majority that were never completed pre-Patreon.

Butr the number of completed/actively in development games is probably 8-10 times more than pre-Patreon days, and that's what I care about. It's the exact opposite of your claim that "no games get released."

The Patreon model is hardly perfect, and it has certainly created developers who just create a small amount of content and then drag out "development" with promises of all the great stuff that's going to come out if they can just meet those funding goals, but the good hugely outweighs the bad. It is even more lopsided in favor of people who refuse to support the artists and devs no matter what. You are, if I understand your series of diatribes correctly, getting the game for free. And still you complain. And offer no actual solutions, just more complaining.
There are years of Japanese h-games before Akabur really started up the western thing and they executed and completed in a more healthy fashion.

You attribute the increase in activity solely to Patreon but the scope of the system that gave rise to the modern day activity in the western h-game space is wider in breadth than that with more factors contributing to it. Awareness, visibility, trust in the software ecosystem (no more virus in every other download), increase in computer use among genpop, increase in computer hardware capabilities, ease of modern-day high-level software development, lower difficulty-bar to generate good-quality art assets, among other things, all have input.

h-stuff used to exist on newgrounds and it got developed and completed. Pornholio is super f old and managed self-contained episodic releases. I recall something called ucogi.

What matters most is not that games are being delayed or that their development is gouging people. The quality suffers because at the forefront of a game's design along with anything else is exploiting the current string-along system.

but also, I don't want to be coming down too hard on FB because I don't mind FB too much
 
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