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Interesting take. I think you are missing the point that Monica is doing that photoshoot because Mr Campbell is the only option she sees that gets rid of Biff from her company. She needs to keep Mr Campbell convinced that the new direction of her magazine was her idea not Biff's. That he is not blackmailing her (which is exactly what is or was happening) so Mr Campbell will enable Monica to remove Biff from his position. Monica believes that Biff's removal will solve many of her problems. We playing the game know very well that it will only lead to more problems for her.

I ask you. What other option has Monica had to get Biff out of her company? Mr Campbell said on the yacht that he would recommend to the other investors that Biff should be removed from his position, so Monica could implement "her true vision" if he believed Monica wasn't being pressured into all the increasingly lewd photoshoots throughout the game and that they were all her idea. If she backed out of that shoot Campbell would not support her and Biff would remain in control of her magazine.

I think the latest developments of the Mr Campbell and investor plot ( along with the Vip - Steve storyline) are some of the strongest elements of the game recently. The home storyline has been the real weakness lately. Fred's magic cock is just so dumb. Monica cleaning her neighbours house because she can't resist Fred's cock belongs as a storyline in Anna Exciting Affection not Fashion Business.
I think, the story development in general is very good, indeed. Monica is getting so close to her goal, so it seems plausible to go the last step and get ridd of Biff.
But I got the feeling that she will soon find out that she get out of the fire into the pan, and that Mr Campbell will have more power over her destiny as Biff ever has.

But - the progression in the photoshot is a bit repetetive. Her thinking goes in circles. There are allways the same lines about 1. Men are pigs, 2. i have to und will endure this to become boss again. 3. How this can happen to me, the famous Monica B.? 4. After this, never again. 5. I will crush them all.
And this lines popping up in different variations again and again. This is killing the dynamic of the scene imho.

But in general - i like the development of the plot.
 
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Monica is getting so close to her goal, so it seems plausible to go the last step and get ridd of Biff.
But I got the feeling that she will soon find out that she get out of the fire into the pan, and that Mr Campbell will have more power over her destiny as Biff ever has.
Don`t forget that Biff connected with 218 owners, seems he didn`t know about farm, but I think his removal from office will have consequences.
And in general, this branch has been without attention and without news for a very long time. Marcus left somewhere, and Monica was told back then that they were waiting for her in a month and I hope that this month will not end somewhere in the 10+ version. From ther side - before Phillip`s quest end, i think we wouldn`t see continuation, because 2 BDSM quests in same time will be strange. =(
 
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Don`t forget that Biff connected with 218 owners, seems he didn`t know about farm, but I think his removal from office will have consequences.
And in general, this branch has been without attention and without news for a very long time. Marcus left somewhere, and Monica was told back then that they were waiting for her in a month and I hope that this month will not end somewhere in the 10+ version. From ther side - before Phillip`s quest end, i think we wouldn`t see continuation, because 2 BDSM quests in same time will be strange. =(
As I see it, it all depends on whether the fourth episode will have a full-fledged Farm 218 storyline (in its Patreon-acceptable form) or whether Farm 218 will just be one of the endings of the entire game. I'd like to believe the former, and that DM will keep his promise and Monica will go to the Farm voluntarily (preferably on her own terms, as agn25 suggested). However, I'm a pessimist on this issue and for now I'm betting on the Farm option as one of the endings of the whole game.

In that case, it means that the 1 month that the Farm owners gave Monica could end in any episode 4 update, and we could be in for just another Monica training session with Marcus and the Farm owners, similar to what we've already seen in Ep3 v6. And another postponement of Monica's trip to the Farm.:cry: So I see no contradiction in the coexistence of two different BDSM quests in the coming updates.
 
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I think, the story development in general is very good, indeed. Monica is getting so close to her goal, so it seems plausible to go the last step and get ridd of Biff.
But I got the feeling that she will soon find out that she get out of the fire into the pan, and that Mr Campbell will have more power over her destiny as Biff ever has.

But - the progression in the photoshot is a bit repetetive. Her thinking goes in circles. There are allways the same lines about 1. Men are pigs, 2. i have to und will endure this to become boss again. 3. How this can happen to me, the famous Monica B.? 4. After this, never again. 5. I will crush them all.
And this lines popping up in different variations again and again. This is killing the dynamic of the scene imho.

But in general - i like the development of the plot.
Yeah I think Monica jumping out of the pan and into the fire is what is the crux of the game. Mr Campbell will have more and more crude demands for Monica. Much more compromising to Monica than the idiot Biff would have come up with. Mr Campbell doesn't think Monica is a $20 whore like Biff did. And I suspect that Mr Campbell is well aware of Monica's situation and is using that info against Monica just like Steve and Phillip are.
 
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it`s not "War and Peace". And it was funny to hear her thoughts what she`ll tell to reporters about photos)
Take it a little more easy, Monica not so smart as our angel Victoria :KEK:
I meant her mind and behavior should be changing because of her decisions and events. Her thoughts should become confused at least, especially if she dumber than Victoria.

Come on, she was fucked by 2/3 of the game NPC, she got several orgasms. Her "not-smart" brain can't consider all that bastards and sex as an evil process. Moreover, her brain will demand to repeat some situations. After that, of course, she may regret about it.

And for what reason we got Whoremeter? Only for more perverted scenes? It's too simple plot.
 
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I meant her mind and behavior should be changing because of her decisions and events. Her thoughts should become confused at least, especially if she dumber than Victoria.

Come on, she was fucked by 2/3 of the game NPC, she got several orgasms. Her "not-smart" brain can't consider all that bastards and sex as an evil process. Moreover, her brain will demand to repeat some situations. After that, of course, she may regret about it.

And for what reason we got Whoremeter? Only for more perverted scenes? It's too simple plot.
What variations she has?
 

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The whoremeter scale is an indicator of her desperation, because all the things she does, she does only because of blackmail and because she has no choice.
don`t agree because it raises when she swallow in situations where she had choice to split for example. if i would be a dev - too high number of whoremeter should block good end. or smth similar.
 

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and the next day would be like
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Cuz Marcus not the main character
And who says the Farm owners won't be the next victims?) If I were a dev, I'd make a separate update just for Monica's Revenge. (say, after the final update of epi4). I'd be interested in watching Monica administer justice and then ride off into the sunset to heroic music. All the bastards around her deserve a bloodbath.
 
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And who says the Farm owners won't be the next victims?) If I were a dev, I'd make a separate update just for Monica's Revenge. (say, after the final update of epi4). I'd be interested in watching Monica administer justice and then ride off into the sunset to heroic music. All the bastards around her deserve a bloodbath.
I already regret that I suggested Luna`s to you, too belligerent)
 
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While I appreciate it, I was actually a fan of the full Monica's Vengeance Path a few years before I passed LFFG. But it's great that you brought up Luna, because there all the endings of the 3 main routes are based entirely on decisions made by the player and are canonical. This is true for the Bad Ass rote, Hero route, or Submissive route... That said, there are local sub-endings (such as the consequences of Luna's submission to this or that character), but which are still fit into one of the 3 canonical endings of the entire game.

I still don't really understand the DecentMonkey concept of 8 different endings. No, I welcome a large number of endings - a variety of choices is always good - but I would prefer that these 8 endings not just end the storylines in isolation from the entire main plot, but be connected to them and have significance to the entire Monica story being told.

I don't know how to do that, given that in our game most of the side storylines (with the exception of the main "Office/Photoshoot" plot line) are not connected to each other at all and are essentially separate games.

I believe that our game needs more than just local endings, but at least 2-3 complete, canonical endings summing up all the decisions Monica has made.

Let's say a bad canonical ending could depend on Monica's degree of bitchiness + the number of bitchy decisions she's made throughout the game in all the story branches! (not necessarily all decisions, but at least the most important ones). On the other hand, a good canonical ending could have depended on a high degree of Monica's decency and most of the good decisions she made that were available to decent Monica throughout the game.

I'm convinced that our game needs to be coherent, and having 2-3 more canonical endings will help achieve that and give all players an understanding of how this epic Monica story was actually supposed to end.
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This 8 endings is hard to expect. From one side it should separate by routes like home, Phillip basement badend, Farm, wedding of Monica with one of investors (Steve, Campbell, Phillip - others not critical ones), revenge path... don`t know others to predict - mb Victor will have selfend. Mb slums and shining hole..
 

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What if there was a 5th episode with all the endings
It's more about the DM himself, namely whether or not he'll be willing and motivated to reconsider his decision on the finale at the end of Ep4 and make Episode 5. Players aren't likely to mind the new content with their lovely Monica.
 
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What if there was a 5th episode with all the endings
Don`t think so. But DLC`s could have place.
-Vic and Mel behind the scenes
-Femdom from Shiny holes with that girl
-legal Bardie :KEK:
-extrem one - Mel and Malvina route at 218 (and get ban from patreon)
 
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It's more about the DM himself, namely whether or not he'll be willing and motivated to reconsider his decision on the finale at the end of Ep4 and make Episode 5. Players aren't likely to mind the new content with their lovely Monica.
I don't want to know what happens next. And I don't know what happens next. Well, in the next updates. I would like a sequel to episode 5 ;)
 
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