qazxsw80

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We're talking about her character, not her circumstances. She is still the same person, she is just more desperate. If I am not willing to do something and do become willing once I feel my life is closer to falling apart, i have not changed at all. The circumstances has convinced me that this is the best way to move forward.
Same thing with Monica, everytime she does something degenerate, its because she thinks its the best way to move forward. If she doesn't its because she wasn't desperate enough to think she needed to do it at that moment. And the same loop plays out over and over forever.
Following you logic, would Monica become a different person if she became "better at manipulating people with sex", as you say and suggest? It can be rationalized the same way you just did. It is the best course of actions. Out of desperation she has to act this way (even though she doesn't like), but she is still the same person. No corruption. No real change of character. Just a change of tactics.
The same can be said about your idea of Monica becoming "mindbroken". She is still the same person. But she is so desperate that she lost all hope and cannot move forward anymore towards her goals. Nothing has changed with her character, she has just achieved a point where she cannot do anything or just too tired.
 

Bleh21

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Following you logic, would Monica become a different person if she became "better at manipulating people with sex", as you say and suggest? It can be rationalized the same way you just did. It is the best course of actions. Out of desperation she has to act this way (even though she doesn't like), but she is still the same person. No corruption. No real change of character. Just a change of tactics.
The same can be said about your idea of Monica becoming "mindbroken". She is still the same person. But she is so desperate that she lost all hope and cannot move forward anymore towards her goals. Nothing has changed with her character, she has just achieved a point where she cannot do anything.
I mean it depends on how you do it yeah. If she dominates others purely for the necessity to raise money then sure. If she does it because she realises she likes dominating others (she does) instead of just having to fuck them then that's her starting to embrace her sexuality to get what she wants. If she starts teasing and flirting with people in public then that would be showing her character growth.
Same for mind broken Monica. If she loses her self esteem because of repeated humiliations to where she acts meekly, unsure of herself, fucks anyone who demands, let's anyone tell her what to do etc then that's genuine character progression.
Difference between our points are you have to contend with the reality of what the writing is, I can churn out the unlimited amount of ways Monica as a character could've been written better.
 

qazxsw80

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I mean it depends on how you do it yeah. If she dominates others purely for the necessity to raise money then sure. If she does it because she likes dominating others (she does) then that's her starting to embrace her sexuality to get what she wants. If she starts teasing and flirting with people in public then would be showing her character growth.
Same for mind broken Monica. If she loses her self esteem because of repeated humiliations to where she acts meekly, unsure of herself, fucks anyone who demands, let's anyone tell her what to do etc then that's genuine character progression.
Difference between our points are you have to contend with the reality of what the writing is, I can churn out the unlimited amount of ways Mo ica as a character could've been written better.
What you are suggesting is certaintly feasible in theory, but extremely difficult to actually realize in the game. It would require to break the game into several branches so that Monica behaves differently in each of them. Monica cannot be at the same time "mindbroken" and try to get her company back. Or just completely change the concept of the game. It wouldn't be a game about "a rich bitch falling down" but about a cunning female fatale who is going to outsmart her enemies. Would the supporters like this sudden change? I doubt that.

Don't get me wrong. The game would be much better if it were divided into many brances where every choice matters and depending on those choices Monica changes both mentally and physically (like she is becoming a bimbo looking in the porn branch, mistress looking in the office and trashy-looking in the falling path). But it is quite difficult to do. I know only one game where this idea is successully implemented - the Good Girl Gone Bad. Others are either really bad, abandoned or in hiatus.
 
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ladymxiang

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The offset code is what encrypts the images. and that is not the same for 405 and 406 - what you did there is wishful thinking :)

Just use the correct script

What is the correct script? What is the offset code? If you made the game work for you and want to help, why not share all the details?

Edit: No need anymore, all the info has been updated, just follow the instructions in the link on the first page: Extras: Activate Extras*
 

Bleh21

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What you are suggesting is certaintly feasible in theory, but extremely difficult to actually realize in the game. It would require to break the game into several branches so that Monica behaves differently in each of them. Monica cannot be at the same time "mindbroken" and try to get her company back. Or just completely change the concept of the game. It wouldn't be a game about "a rich bitch falling down" but about a cunning female fatale who is going to outsmart her enemies. Would the supporters like this sudden change? I doubt that.

Don't get me wrong. The game would be much better if it were divided into many brances where every choice matters and depending on those choices Monica changes both mentally and physically (like she is becoming a bimbo looking in the porn branch, mistress looking in the office and trashy-looking in the falling path). But it is quite difficult to do. I know only one game where this idea is successully implemented - the Good Girl Gone Bad. Others are either really bad, abandoned or in hiatus.
Im not suggesting the games go in every direction, just a direction in general. Right now, Monica is just frozen in limbo
And my description of her character will obviously be near the end of the game most of the game would be building up to that state. She slowly loses her mind doing depraved shit trying to get her company back/ or she does get her company back by sexually dominating her rivals/ or she never gets her company back but does find happiness being a slut. Literally covers all areas you might want the game to go.
Goons raid her and Defending Lydia Collier have pretty branching paths. Lydia isn't finished but I doubt it'll be abandoned at this point/
 
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qazxsw80

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Im not suggesting the games go in every direction, just a direction in general. Right now, Monica is just frozen in limbo
And my description of her character will obviously be near the end of the game most of the game would be building up to that state. She slowly loses her mind doing depraved shit trying to get her company back/ or she does get her company back by sexually dominating her rivals/ or she never gets her company back but does find happiness being a slut. Literally covers all areas you might want the game to go.
But that is exactly why branching is needed. Some people here want Monica to be victorious, to defeat her enemies and so on. But some would hate such a turn of events (I would personally stop playing the game if such an update is released).
Some people seem to love the idea of Monica starting to love sex, but at the same time the majorite says it would totally ruin the game (it is even written in the FAQ). And so on.
On the other hand, when Monica stays about the same, "frozen in limbo", everyone seems to be satisfied to some extent.
 

vimmers

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wen i do this in v4 6.0 the game crash
dunno what you did
but change line 430 and 435 to true
i just tested it with a clean v4 6.0
and that means no old files in C:\Users\%yourusername%\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\fashionbusiness1\
ala savefiles and persistent
 

Bleh21

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But that is exactly why branching is needed. Some people here want Monica to be victorious, to defeat her enemies and so on. But some would hate such a turn of events (I would personally stop playing the game if such an update is released).
Some people seem to love the idea of Monica starting to love sex, but at the same time the majorite says it would totally ruin the game (it is even written in the FAQ). And so on.
On the other hand, when Monica stays about the same, "frozen in limbo", everyone seems to be satisfied to some extent.
You can speculate on how the reactions will be but the fact is we don't know. Maybe you get more subscribers then you lose of you choose one of the three options. If you manage to go all three then that's a def win. My critique about Monicas terrible writing has nothing to do with popularity anyway.
The FAQ is a current description of the game more then an opinion of what the game should be. I.e don't go into the game if you expect corruption, it's all about blackmail and coercion
And even if you are completely correct the obvious direction to take her character would be to go the mind break route. She doesn't enjoy the sex, she doesn't get the business back and her self worth is completely gone and she no longer has the will to fight back.
 

BiberonSZeta

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What is the correct script? What is the offset code? If you made the game work for you and want to help, why not share all the details?

Edit: No need anymore, all the info has been updated, just follow the instructions in the link on the first page: Extras: Activate Extras*
Yea, probably the info was not updated yet when you tried. Takes some time to find the new offset code. I'm glad you managed.
 
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